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StaffsMariner
October 13, 2021, 2:07pm
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Fans on the pitch during the 70s/80s ended up with us being fenced in for those too young to remember, until the Hillsborough disaster meant fencing fans in could no longer happen.
We now get treat as adults who should know better than feel the need to run on the pitch just because we scored a goal.
To feel the need to run on the pitch at tier 5 is just so bloody TINPOT it defies logic.
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October 13, 2021, 2:39pm

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People saying its illegal but harmless, generally your right, but is stealing £1k from a millionaire ok then, after all he might not miss it in the scheme of things, drive at 38 in a 30 but its ok I didn't have an accident this time so no harm done. Laws is laws however stupid they may be, a lot of people break them but does not mean its right to.
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How anyone can say it’s ok to break the law so long as it’s only a few is beyond me.
Stay off the flipping pitch unless you are a player !
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Stay off the pitch lads until the final whistle of the match that confirms our promotion.  one of the best pictures I’ve ever seen regarding gtfc is the one taken from the main stand of the crowded pitch after the Sheffield Utd game , pleased to say I was on the pitch 😎
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Quoted from supertown
How anyone can say it’s ok to break the law so long as it’s only a few is beyond me.
Stay off the flipping pitch unless you are a player !



Yes..that includes you referees, assistants, physios..



Oh.
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October 14, 2021, 1:42pm
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You don't have to like or respect the law, or even understand why at times it's there, but you do have to obey it.

If you don't anarchy rules. ( you also have to accept cases like Sussex who was pushed beyond the 'barrier' which are mitigating circumstances and out of his control ).


You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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Police will move kick offs whenever they fancy it based on the flimsiest of evidence or intelligence, historical factors that are 20/30/40 years out of date and when they can’t find a justification, they’ll just completely fabricate something (like Chesterfield a few years back). As for making it harder for the club to argue against, I’d like to see them try for once!

This whole thread, which has dragged on for half a week now, demonstrates why it’s so easy for football fans to have their rights taken away, en masse, and face poor treatment at the hands of the police - because people will justify anything if they think they’re better than the those they’re calling for action against. The thread’s been an illuminating, if depressing, exercise in dehumanising language, stereotyping, straw-man arguments and a weird form of classism.

Some seem to be justifying their abuse by stating it’s illegal to be on the pitch. Being drunk in a football ground is also illegal, but we have a thread on here every week talking about which pubs to visit. Should we start hammering everyone posting in there? I’d imagine almost everyone on here is guilty of that. Last year standing outside with 2 other people was illegal. If you think you can justify abusing people based on what’s legal or illegal this week or next, you’re on a slippery slope.

Nobody’s said pitch encroachment is fine, but people have asked for a bit more of a proportional response rather than the sentences being handed down from the Fishy kangaroo court where everyone who brushes a blade of grass shall be hung, drawn and quartered. Some of the strawman arguments on here are laughable - it’s some reach to go from someone being on the pitch (for 5 seconds, by about 2ft) to then “swinging for a steward” or “a nutter” getting on the pitch. Also saying “if one person does it, everyone will do it” sounds like the kind of argument you’d have with a 2-year-old. It’s an offence if one person or a thousand do it - it’s up to the authorities to police it and charge people if they want, it doesn’t become less of offence through the number of people doing it.

A lot of the behaviour - pulling nets, giving grief to stewards or club staff - is embarrassing and reminds me of that bullying attitude FC Utd had when they first started out and had stands full of Man Utd fans. But it would be a lot easier to weed that out if the reaction to every little infringement wasn’t the “shoot them and drown their kids” we get on here.


Very brave of you to say so on here SF..

Been to a couple of away games this season and bought tickets for the home end. will be doing the same for Wealdstone too. Really don't want to stand on a small crowded terrace with some of our fans who don't know how to behave when they've had a skinful..
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October 14, 2021, 3:59pm

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That sounds like a potential breach of ground guidelines, which could open you up to criminal charges under a breach of the Football Spectators Act 1989.

Please respect the law. Or the Fishy Gestapo will take your name.
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October 14, 2021, 4:22pm
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Hundreds of goals are scored up and down the country every week.  I don't see other supporters spilling onto the pitch consciously or accidently.   Come to think of it , I never saw people do it last season when we got a rare win.  You could argue that there was more to celebrate last year.
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Hundreds of goals are scored up and down the country every week.  I don't see other supporters spilling onto the pitch consciously or accidently.   Come to think of it , I never saw people do it last season when we got a rare win.  You could argue that there was more to celebrate last year.






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