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Am I the only one that preferred his goal against Stevenage to the one against Colchester?
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I doubt there’s a single person on here who would turn down the opportunity of doubling their wages at the minute if they were offered it . Football is a job to these guys, not a passion like us fans .


Agreed, but how are clubs like Burton planning on paying these wages when they, and we, have no clear guidance on when, or if, football will return?  Seems a hell of a gamble to me.  But football never learns, the majority of clubs will learn nothing from this.
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Philip Day discussing CV:

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Agreed, but how are clubs like Burton planning on paying these wages when they, and we, have no clear guidance on when, or if, football will return?  Seems a hell of a gamble to me.  But football never learns, the majority of clubs will learn nothing from this.


Why does everyone think that every single club is following the GTFC financial model of only cutting to the barest bones possible while hoping for a handout and not keeping their best players? It's not the only option for an EFL club. Some are attracting fresh investment, some owners are plugging the temporary financial gap so their clubs don't fall so far behind that it will take years to catch up. What also worries me is that BC and CV don't share Ollie's vision. That's one player that's thrived playing under him and previously stated he was looking forward to next season and the other is in IH's own words,  a mate, and we couldn't offer JH anything. Surely some alarm bells should be ringing by now?

In a Manchester based radio interview the other day, post the Wigan fiasco, Philip Day was putting forward a very good proposal that new owners of football clubs should pay a bond to the value of two year's overheads before taking over. A very good proposal yet perversely PD and his board of directors aren't currently practising what they preach at all, not covering our own overheads, and are letting our better players slip through their fingers and Ollie can't convince them to stay even though he's been working with them already. It's going to be even harder for him trying to sell that vision to the better out of contract players on offer that he hasn't any history with.

I'm just surprised that so many fans seem fairly relaxed with how things are at GTFC, or is it just reluctant resignation?
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July 14, 2020, 1:03pm
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We are not cutting everything to the barest bones as you infer, we are living within our means. There's a big difference.  Burton by virtue of having been playing at a higher level than us, having several good cup runs, have generated a bigger income than us.

What alternative do you suggest, preferably one that doesn't risk financial ruin?
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Said from the start that we can't offer a player a contract whilst the core of our squad sit there without 25% of their wages. We made Vernam an offer that included a 25% wage cut for the same period as everyone else.

Can you imagine the unrest if we extended his contract and told him he wouldn't have a pay cut like everyone else?

The core of our squad is alright. There are a few clubs making moves but not too many. I think once the Premier League, Championship and National League is resolved in the next few weeks we will have more clarity about what the future holds.
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We are not cutting everything to the barest bones as you infer, we are living within our means. There's a big difference.  Burton by virtue of having been playing at a higher level than us, having several good cup runs, have generated a bigger income than us.

What alternative do you suggest, preferably one that doesn't risk financial ruin?


You move heaven and earth to improve our means..
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You move heaven and earth to improve our means..


By doing whatever it takes to secure a player or 2 and risk upsetting 11 others?
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How do we move heaven and earth then bigdog?

It's easy to say, I would suggest that in the current economic climate we find ourselves in, it is much harder to achieve. We are not blessed with multi millionaires in NE Lincs, willing to invest millions on a small provincial club. We are not blessed with massive global companies on our doorstep looking to invest in the local economy. In short, this area doesn't have the money of big cities. We are skint.
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How do we move heaven and earth then bigdog?

It's easy to say, I would suggest that in the current economic climate we find ourselves in, it is much harder to achieve. We are not blessed with multi millionaires in NE Lincs, willing to invest millions on a small provincial club. We are not blessed with massive global companies on our doorstep looking to invest in the local economy. In short, this area doesn't have the money of big cities. We are skint.


Well I would hope that there has been a re-engagement with anyone who has a chance, remote or not, to improve the club's temporary financial standing..

I'm agreeing with Philip Day, owners should provide a bond of two year's overheads in the case of a downturn in a club's fortunes. If he lived up to the standards he sets for others we wouldn't be in this mess of saving 20k or so with player wage cuts which then hamstrings us from holding onto our best players never mind signing any new ones. Our board can't come up with less than 100k between then to avoid a wage cut and hang onto probably our best three players , BC, CV and JH, to keep the semblance of a promising squad together. I don't expect new signings even though around 15 EFL clubs are making them already, but by Philip Day's standards he is publicly setting for anyone in the future, as a fan, I'd have expected him to find the means to hang onto three of my favourite players at the club. I'm more than happy for the club to be cutting it's cloth accordingly at present as long as it's actively looking for new cloths to help out the tatty well worn out rag we're using..
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