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KingstonMariner
March 9, 2020, 4:25pm
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Unfortunately at the moment some people and especially the media seem more concerned about the economy, business, and the fall in the stock market.
If the outbreak is going to be as serious at some time in the near future as some are predicting,  then being an island it should be reletavely easy to contain by stoppin all flights, ferries etc coming in and going out except for essential supplies that we import.
I'm in my 70's with an underlying health problem, but to be honest all i can do is use common sense and follow what advice the medical profession give out.
After the worst bout of flu ever in January (six days in bed) im now quite wary of where i go, but, if i contract the virus and kark it, well so be it at my age you realise you cant live forever.
But i still think we are a way off having death carts on the streets pullrd by hooded men shouting "bring out yer dead".


The danger to the economy also threatens health. Stock markets are down, partly because of real world issues with supply chains being impacted. Profits are affected - affects not just the rich but everyone with a work pension. Some of it is speculation, but that’s the nature of capitalism - we’re stuck with it.  People not being able to go to work and make things means lower real incomes all round. Airlines, hotels, restaurants,  holiday companies already affected. People will lose their jobs. More unemployment means more ill health (mental and physical).

All of that lost income means less tax to spend on health and other essential services.


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And that reply sadly reflects our society - more bothered about having a drink stolen than preventing the spread of disease!


It's more about the spiking element


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Why can't people go for a urine between drinks?


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All of that lost income means less tax to spend on health and other essential services.


Nope. As the Bank of England has admitted, governments using their own fiat currency like the UK with Sterling don't tax and spend, they spend and then tax.

£400+ billion was spent into existence to keep the banks afloat during the financial crisis. The UK government (and other governments around the world) need to create and spend as much money as is required to stop another catastrophic crash. Even the Tories must realise that There Is No Alternative in the event of a major pandemic or serious epidemic.
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Always wondered why most you can get into by just pushing on the door, but to get out you have to physically touch the handle.  From a hygiene pov it would make sense to do it the other way round?



Or follow most modern motorway tolets, no doors just a right angle bend in the corridor
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Erm, Covid-19 has already killed more than twice as many as MERS and SARS combined and it is only just getting started in many countries around the world. The figures from Italy early this week will be interesting to see considering so many died there over the weekend.

I certainly hope it isn't as severe as could be the case but there are no grounds to just wave it away as being overblown. Even disregarding the small number of otherwise healthy people who have a severe immune response, there are many others at risk.

I have mild asthma so will be more at risk than many and my wife is recuperating from surgery so what would happen to our young children if we were to get it badly? There are another few close family members (including my parents) with risk factors as well so they would be at risk if they had to look after them.

Just waving it away as a scare story when we're heading for tens of thousands of deaths around the world at the very least is a bit blasé in my opinion.

I see that they aren't changing the UK status just yet following a Cobra meeting. This may well change if the news from Italy is bad.


As usual you like to quote something but miss out the real data around your point that paints a true picture of what is really happening, stop adding to the panic and scaremongering. You did this all the time with Brexit and the sky hasn't fallen in has it.

CV19 has a kill rate of 2% of people confirmed with the virus, Factamundo.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) had a case fatality rate of around 10% and

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) killed 34% of people with the virus, this is from the BMJ, all aboard the panic train choo choo.

More people have been exposed to CV19 than SARS and MERS combined and with over billion people living in China CV19 death rate compared to the other two is rookie numbers. There is a reasonable explanation as to why it has killed more, a simple fact that more people have been exposed to it.

This is not the pandemic it is made out to be, is it bad and potentially deadly yes, is it the Spanish Flu or Black plague, no. Is there need to panic buy and clear the shops out of toilet roll and hand wash no.

The vulnerable in society need the items people a clearing the shelves for and people like you are just fueling their panic with your nonsense. I went to ASDA's today with the missus, an elderly lady couldn't believe there was no toilet roll or kitchen rolls left. This panic isn't justified, like I said in another post Heart disease is the biggest killer in this country, where is the hysteria with that. I bought myself a bottle of Tom Woods rum 57%,  now this will kill any virus it comes across, cheers.


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The irony that the person adamant that it’s all scaremongering is also the person obsessed with the great replacement of the white race in Europe is not lost on me 😂
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Always wondered why most you can get into by just pushing on the door, but to get out you have to physically touch the handle.  From a hygiene pov it would make sense to do it the other way round?



I did think more or less the same thing when I was in McDs on Saturday but then I thought maybe it's a "privacy" issue?

If the door opened out then it could maybe cause some embarrassment to some? Maybe not but if you could push the door open from the inside it would certainly help avoid germs left by those who aren't so clever with their personal hygiene
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As usual you like to quote something but miss out the real data around your point that paints a true picture of what is really happening, stop adding to the panic and scaremongering. You did this all the time with Brexit and the sky hasn't fallen in has it.

CV19 has a kill rate of 2% of people confirmed with the virus, Factamundo.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) had a case fatality rate of around 10% and

Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) killed 34% of people with the virus, this is from the BMJ, all aboard the panic train choo choo.

More people have been exposed to CV19 than SARS and MERS combined and with over billion people living in China CV19 death rate compared to the other two is rookie numbers. There is a reasonable explanation as to why it has killed more, a simple fact that more people have been exposed to it.

This is not the pandemic it is made out to be, is it bad and potentially deadly yes, is it the Spanish Flu or Black plague, no. Is there need to panic buy and clear the shops out of toilet roll and hand wash no.

The vulnerable in society need the items people a clearing the shelves for and people like you are just fueling their panic with your nonsense. I went to ASDA's today with the missus, an elderly lady couldn't believe there was no toilet roll or kitchen rolls left. This panic isn't justified, like I said in another post Heart disease is the biggest killer in this country, where is the hysteria with that. I bought myself a bottle of Tom Woods rum 57%,  now this will kill any virus it comes across, cheers.


Apparently you know more than the WHO and PHE. Probably just keep your superior knowledge to yourself rather than trying to ram it down people's throat that it's all just scaremongering.

The death rate is 3.4%, 70% higher than you claim. This is according to the WHO, not a number just plucked by whatever news outlet is reporting it. Factamundo.

It is far more contagious than SARS or MERS. 3.4% of a large amount of people is much worse than 10% of a small number of people.

The death rate of Spanish flu is believed to be in the region of 2-3%, lower than CV19. The number of deaths was so large because the spread wasn't contained and so many people were infected around the world.

This isn't about a mega high death rate that has happened so far. It's about containing a disease that could potentially kill millions of people and stopping it before our health care systems are overloaded. Yes, the panic buying is ridiculous, but to nonchalantly dismiss people's fears over something that has the potential to wipe out many of us, our friends and family just puts you in the same category of ridiculousness. And as for using rum to sanitise things and drinking it as a preventative measure, probably keep things like that to yourself. I'd hate for somebody to think that that's a realistic way of protecting themselves.
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The irony that the person adamant that it’s all scaremongering is also the person obsessed with the great replacement of the white race in Europe is not lost on me 😂


Are you referring to me.


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