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HertsGTFC
March 21, 2020, 9:51pm

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You obviously don't understand logistics.
The supply chain is robust as shown by high demands at Easter and Christmas.
Introduce a mob mentality were people clear the stock in a couple of hours & the system is compromised.
The stock is still available at the distribution hub but it's impossible to a) have unlimited deliveries from central warehousing to regions & b) resupply the in-store stock.

Obviously if people have the ability to hoard food in mass quantities ie frozen eventually the chain will be comprised.
Think we are a long way off that.


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Actually it works well at Easter and Christmas because demand tables are set based upon forecast and forward cover the busier it gets you increase your forward cover which increases the quantity of goods delivered in.

The issues is that demand is so large that you just can’t predict the cover you need into the DC’s and out to the stores. Usually the demand tables are not updated manually and often set for incremental rises rather than spikes.

Add to that a lack of warehouse and store resource, HGV hours and vehicles.

I understand logistics and retail more than you may think. I also understand that retailers try not to sit on stock as that sends up the holding figure on your balance sheet and increases your cost of sales which dilutes profitability.


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This.
Try and design a supply chain for this scenario??


Get coppers with guns airport-stylee at morrisons and you’ll see people doing what they’re f#cking told. Too much bog roll? Smack around the head. 6 packets of rice you’ll never eat? Tazered. Carling instead of Docks? Bang!!
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Get coppers with guns airport-stylee at morrisons and you’ll see people doing what they’re f#cking told. Too much bog roll? Smack around the head. 6 packets of rice you’ll never eat? Tazered. Carling instead of Docks? Bang!!


Ah Yes.
The PM's extra 20k police force.



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Actually it works well at Easter and Christmas because demand tables are set based upon forecast and forward cover the busier it gets you increase your forward cover which increases the quantity of goods delivered in.

The issues is that demand is so large that you just can’t predict the cover you need into the DC’s and out to the stores. Usually the demand tables are not updated manually and often set for incremental rises rather than spikes.

Add to that a lack of warehouse and store resource, HGV hours and vehicles.

I understand logistics and retail more than you may think. I also understand that retailers try not to sit on stock as that sends up the holding figure on your balance sheet and increases your cost of sales which dilutes profitability. [/quote]


It’s been blatantly obvious that demand would be greater than supply this week. Why haven’t they held it in stock on site? Why haven’t NHS workers, the vulnerable, key workers and thd elderly been given priority over everyone else?

The bit in bold save for skype at 9 on monday morning.
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[quote=128597]

You obviously don't understand logistics.
The supply chain is robust as shown by high demands at Easter and Christmas.
Introduce a mob mentality were people clear the stock in a couple of hours & the system is compromised.
The stock is still available at the distribution hub but it's impossible to a) have unlimited deliveries from central warehousing to regions & b) resupply the in-store stock.

Obviously if people have the ability to hoard food in mass quantities ie frozen eventually the chain will be comprised.
Think we are a long way off that.


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Actually it works well at Easter and Christmas because demand tables are set based upon forecast and forward cover the busier it gets you increase your forward cover which increases the quantity of goods delivered in.

The issues is that demand is so large that you just can’t predict the cover you need into the DC’s and out to the stores. Usually the demand tables are not updated manually and often set for incremental rises rather than spikes.

Add to that a lack of warehouse and store resource, HGV hours and vehicles.

I understand logistics and retail more than you may think. I also understand that retailers try not to sit on stock as that sends up the holding figure on your balance sheet and increases your cost of sales which dilutes profitability.


So are you confirming the DC's are not holding sufficient stock,?



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Actually it works well at Easter and Christmas because demand tables are set based upon forecast and forward cover the busier it gets you increase your forward cover which increases the quantity of goods delivered in.

The issues is that demand is so large that you just can’t predict the cover you need into the DC’s and out to the stores. Usually the demand tables are not updated manually and often set for incremental rises rather than spikes.

Add to that a lack of warehouse and store resource, HGV hours and vehicles.

I understand logistics and retail more than you may think. I also understand that retailers try not to sit on stock as that sends up the holding figure on your balance sheet and increases your cost of sales which dilutes profitability.



It’s been blatantly obvious that demand would be greater than supply this week. Why haven’t they held it in stock on site? Why haven’t NHS workers, the vulnerable, key workers and thd elderly been given priority over everyone else?

The bit in bold save for skype at 9 on monday morning.
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Couldn’t agree more as mad as it sounds a lot of big stores don’t have the space off the sales floor to hold stock.

I think that it will get better but it appears that the “supermarket giants” aren’t as agile as they might be.


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So are you confirming the DC's are not holding sufficient stock,?


Confirming? Only the Supermarkets can do that can’t they ?


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There will be plenty of stock at the distribution centres but.....

Store warehouses aren't that big so they rely on staff to put the deliveries out pretty quickly to keep them clear.

If more deliveries are called for you need more staff to put it out on the shop floor or the whole thing jams up.

It looks like they are now  addressing the problem by recruiting more staff.


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Our daughter told us her work mates father aged 76 and a chicken and a joint of ham stolen from his trolley as he left Sainsbury this morning.

So tell your family to be careful and aware when they leave the shops.

If it happened in Bury St Edmunds it can happen anywhere.


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MI5 work on the theory that Britain is only 4 meals away from anarchy. Once people begin to panic, it doesn't take much to see hoarding and other similarly antisocial behaviour kick in. Keeping a supply of tinned and dried food which can keep you going for a few days really isn't a bad idea and only costs a few quid. Not that we're in a situation where we need to worry about this stuff right now.
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