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Northbank Mariner
October 20, 2019, 4:43pm Report to Moderator
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This infers that one day in the future (be it near or far away) Jolley is going to become a good manager, it does not necessarily follow I'm afraid his current performance might well be the best he ever achieves



My point exactly 'swin....he's had time and leant nothing in my eyes, as a manager I don't think he's cutting the mustard, appears he's probably good as youth coach but not a senior team manager, in the same mould as Neil Woods to me..
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We have had a succession of shite managers inheriting a shite squad to which they have added even more shite. We are average at best, a lower 4th division club. End of



Any idea as to why we may have become so shite? I know you have become a keen supporter of the current board.
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The reaction on here when the team sheet came out told the rest of us he had made another blunder in his selection of  square pegs and round holes.

If we who have no bits of paper telling everyone we know what we are doing why can't  he see what is obvious to the rest of us.?


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I dont think we have bad players. and we have got better players here this year,, not world beaters but decent players .But if you keep swapping them about and playing them in the wrong places , dropping players that have done well plus   [ square pegs in round holes ] you are going to upset the balance and the players will lose confidence and start to not want the ball. Jolley has got to learn that you play the best players in the correct place to get the best chance of a win and not pick players because they are your favorite m8. we had a great win at exeter  and he goes and changes it , shows how bad and far off he is at being a manager
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I’d be interested to know what the official expectations are within the club itself. Whether that’s as clear cut as ‘finish in position x’ or above I wouldn’t know, but surely any senior manager in any role (football related or otherwise) will have a target against which he or she is measured.

My worry is that despite having top third attendances for this league, we probably have a bottom third budget - a result of us refusing to stretch ourselves financiallly as much as other clubs.

Whether you perceive that as prudent or unambitious isn’t really the point. If expectations should align with budget, and it seems only fair that they should, can you keep sacking managers every time they don’t significantly overachieve?

Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t enjoy yesterday one bit and it seems to me along with everyone else that the manager made a series of selection and tactical clangers. But if we have the 17th biggest budget in the league, is sacking the manager necessarily the solution to getting us seriously challenging for promotion?


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I’d be interested to know what the official expectations are within the club itself. Whether that’s as clear cut as ‘finish in position x’ or above I wouldn’t know, but surely any senior manager in any role (football related or otherwise) will have a target against which he or she is measured.

My worry is that despite having top third attendances for this league, we probably have a bottom third budget - a result of us refusing to stretch ourselves financiallly as much as other clubs.

Whether you perceive that as prudent or unambitious isn’t really the point. If expectations should align with budget, and it seems only fair that they should, can you keep sacking managers every time they don’t significantly overachieve?

Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t enjoy yesterday one bit and it seems to me along with everyone else that the manager made a series of selection and tactical changers. But if we have the 17th biggest budget in the league, is sacking the manager necessarily the solution to getting is seriously challenging for promotion?


All very valid. As usual questions that our current custodians won’t answer because they’re repetitions of similar questions from the last God knows how long. Someone earlier described us as looking like Phoenix Nights- all very true. Too true.
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We have had a succession of shite managers inheriting a shite squad to which they have added even more shite. We are average at best, a lower 4th division club. End of

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Might as well give it to Steve Wraith then. I think he got a Sunday League side promoted a few years ago.
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Quoted from Poojah
I’d be interested to know what the official expectations are within the club itself. Whether that’s as clear cut as ‘finish in position x’ or above I wouldn’t know, but surely any senior manager in any role (football related or otherwise) will have a target against which he or she is measured.

My worry is that despite having top third attendances for this league, we probably have a bottom third budget - a result of us refusing to stretch ourselves financiallly as much as other clubs.

Whether you perceive that as prudent or unambitious isn’t really the point. If expectations should align with budget, and it seems only fair that they should, can you keep sacking managers every time they don’t significantly overachieve?

Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t enjoy yesterday one bit and it seems to me along with everyone else that the manager made a series of selection and tactical changers. But if we have the 17th biggest budget in the league, is sacking the manager necessarily the solution to getting is seriously challenging for promotion?



It's a chicken and egg scenario though isn't it? Who in his right mind is going to entrust someone as inexperieced as Jolley with a big budget?


Well I did try to tell you all Jolley was a mistake

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We have had a succession of shite managers inheriting a shite squad to which they have added even more shite. We are average at best, a lower 4th division club. End of



Might as well give it to Steve Wraith then. I think he got a Sunday League side promoted a few years ago.
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He's won more than Jolley then



Well I did try to tell you all Jolley was a mistake

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I think people would feel a little better if MJ was a little more magnanimous.


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