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bradzmilne
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21:30 Onwards....

Makes awful listening for a fan.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7iS8HkRmNrImV1B0KL8GO4


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Disgusting, Neil Woods had no chance of keeping us up.
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What was said? I can't listen atm
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Basically they loved Newell because he went out on the urine with the team, but Woods didn't like the drinking culture and they all refused to play for him.
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Disgusting, Neil Woods had no chance of keeping us up.


I've not listened to the interview BUT...

It's the manager's job to get the best out of the players at his disposal. You can't do that if you alienate them all even if you think you're right. A good manager picks his battles carefully. The only battle Woods had was to keep us in the football league, not to turn the playing squad tee-total. If Woods had done that he could have changed the culture of the club in the summer by releasing players he didn't want en-masse.
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flipping hell! No wonder we went down.

Drinking on the way to training, disgraceful. Always thought that group were the biggest bunch of tossers, no respect for the club or fans who paid their wages so they could go out on the urine every night!



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Quoted from GollyGTFC


I've not listened to the interview BUT...



I would before commenting, it’s bad.


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I think it was common knowledge that Mike Newell was an alkie (allegedly), but it seems that most of the players were too!



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That team can rot in hell as far as I’m concerned after listening to that
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Just look at Barry Conlon, he had more points on his driving licence than we did the whole season 😂


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Quoted from GollyGTFC


I've not listened to the interview BUT...

It's the manager's job to get the best out of the players at his disposal. You can't do that if you alienate them all even if you think you're right. A good manager picks his battles carefully. The only battle Woods had was to keep us in the football league, not to turn the playing squad tee-total. If Woods had done that he could have changed the culture of the club in the summer by releasing players he didn't want en-masse.


I suggest you listen to it... if I had been one of that bunch of tossers I'd have felt embarrassed but this particular character seems to think it was funny. How anyone can apportion blame to Neil Woods after listening to that drivel is beyond me....a bunch of beer swilling no-hopers who treated the club, the fans and their own profession with contempt.
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Appalling.  What a feeble excuse for a professional footballer.

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I don’t think we blamed Neil Woods, we blamed the one who appointed him and who must have known the score with that gang.

What I did blame Neil for was not getting us back up straightaway by not realising the sort of players and tactics needed to get out of the conference.


"Aim for the sky and you'll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you'll stay on the floor."  Bill Shankly
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I don’t think we blamed Neil Woods, we blamed the one who appointed him and who must have known the score with that gang.

What I did blame Neil for was not getting us back up straightaway by not realising the sort of players and tactics needed to get out of the conference.


I was referring to the comment about a good manager picking his battles carefully....Alex Ferguson wouldn't have been able to do much with that bunch....
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Quoted from GollyGTFC


I've not listened to the interview BUT...

It's the manager's job to get the best out of the players at his disposal. You can't do that if you alienate them all even if you think you're right. A good manager picks his battles carefully. The only battle Woods had was to keep us in the football league, not to turn the playing squad tee-total. If Woods had done that he could have changed the culture of the club in the summer by releasing players he didn't want en-masse.


As has already been said, you shouldn’t  pass comment without listening - you make yourself look foolish. It is a toe-curlingly bad interview that shines a light on what most of us already knew. They took the urine out of every single fan who ever paid their cash to watch them play.

Rather than lambasting Woods, take a minute to question why Fenty ever appointed a manager who was renowned for his drinking antics and, more worryingly, allowed that to then permeate the entire team whilst he was in charge of us.

Fenty and the rest of the board got us relegated to the conference, not Woods.
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Trying to work out whether I’m more angry about the pisstaking by the players or Mr Fenty for not sacking Newell sooner.
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It was actually hugely unfair to give a youth team coach, with no first team management experience that bunch of useless, feckless girl privates and expect him to keep them in the league.

As for that sniggering Manc/Scouse/whatever the intercourse he is girl private Linwood, he might think it's funny to slag off Grimsby and talk about cans of Fosters on the way to training but how funny does he find it that he ended up at Connah's Quay and Ramsbottom United. You might have hated Grimsby Paul but reside safe in the knowledge that we hate you and waster arseholes like Proudlock and Conlon a lot more.
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I was referring to the comment about a good manager picking his battles carefully....Alex Ferguson wouldn't have been able to do much with that bunch....


It’s OK tarka, I agree. I was just making a general comment about Woods.



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Whilst there have been plenty of rumours and stories, to listen to how he laughed it off was a disgrace. They simply didn’t care.

‘Newell joined us at the pub’, ‘we finished drinking at 5am and had to be at training at 9am’, ‘some of the lads drank a can of Fosters on the way to training’.

They may have loved Newell, but quite frankly the culture he created was disgraceful.
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The booze has obviously got to Linwood's memory a bit as he seems to think we were "just clawing it back" and "turning it around" when Newell was sacked.

We'd lost 4 on the bounce!


Fentys out
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It’s OK tarka, I agree. I was just making a general comment about Woods.



Yes, I appreciate that. I really don't feel able to pass judgement on the tactical side of things but I do know he found it difficult to attract quality players to the club...whether it was through a lack of contacts or a lack of finance I don't know.
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As has already been said, you shouldn’t  pass comment without listening - you make yourself look foolish. It is a toe-curlingly bad interview that shines a light on what most of us already knew. They took the urine out of every single fan who ever paid their cash to watch them play.

Rather than lambasting Woods, take a minute to question why Fenty ever appointed a manager who was renowned for his drinking antics and, more worryingly, allowed that to then permeate the entire team whilst he was in charge of us.

Fenty and the rest of the board got us relegated to the conference, not Woods.


So renowned for it that his appointment was met with overwhelming approval and optimism amongst the supporters. His previous job at Luton was successful. I don't remember anybody saying we shouldn't have hired that urine head...
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The fans didn't hire him though and they weren't responsible for conducting due diligence on him or finding an experienced replacement when it all went mammaries up. He seemed happy to accept responsibility when he came on the pitch after we scraped survival at Dean Court.
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I've carried on listening to that and it's the most #ladzladzladz #bantz thing I've ever heard.


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So renowned for it that his appointment was met with overwhelming approval and optimism amongst the supporters. His previous job at Luton was successful. I don't remember anybody saying we shouldn't have hired that urine head...


Are you suggesting that the board weren’t aware of his past? As for the fans being happy with the appointment, it’s the Board’s job to carry out due diligence, not the supporters!
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If anyone fancies telling Paul what they think about his professionalism, simply google his name and his linkedin profile and contact details pop up.


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Bloke sounds like a right tool and he can be proud to know he was involved in one of the worst town teams in history.

Well done Paul linwood.


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The fans didn't hire him though and they weren't responsible for conducting due diligence on him or finding an experienced replacement when it all went mammaries up. He seemed happy to accept responsibility when he came on the pitch after we scraped survival at Dean Court.


In John Fenty's defence Neil Woods wasn't his choice...he wanted Slade (for better or worse!) but was outvoted by the rest of the Board.
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Are you suggesting that the board weren’t aware of his past? As for the fans being happy with the appointment, it’s the Board’s job to carry out due diligence, not the supporters!


I'm sure they were aware of his past where he won league one in 2005 and finished 10th in the championship in 2006. As for the drinking, I don't know. But to say it was widely known is far of the mark, we might think that with hindsight, but nobody was saying it was a bad decision to sign him at the time.

I don't think getting information from other teams within football is as easy as it should be. If clubs were publicising all of the bad points about their former managers, then they'd be getting sued. Plus a manager that publicly criticised his employers the way that Newell did was hardly going to lead to get glowing reviews from them.

Doesn't change that it was a disaster, and if the club knew about the culture, then they are as much to blame for allowing it to continue another season as anybody else
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So renowned for it that his appointment was met with overwhelming approval and optimism amongst the supporters. His previous job at Luton was successful. I don't remember anybody saying we shouldn't have hired that urine head...


Most fans thought'''ooh, he did some stuff at Luton, might be a good hire'
However, such fans generally lack the abilty, contact numbers  and the inclination I'd say to 'phone around' and pick up info on the footy grapvine. Had that been done I'm sure some of Newells less savoury habits and ways would have come to light. When you hire for such responsible positions you do your homework.

Apart from at GTFC where it's always the fans fault.


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Wow. I don't think any manager had a chance with that bunch.

That is the danger when you fill your squad with players on the way down, just picking up a wage. Sweeney had played in a cup final for Millwall, Proudlock was highly rated at Sunderland, Linwood came from League One Tranmere and I've heard about Conlon's antics at Bradford before he came here.

In one sense I miss the identity that we built in the Conference years and hope we can get towards that again.
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It's basically.... "we didn't care about Grimsby town and once newell got sacked the lads wouldn't play for Neil Woods as he wouldn't go out on the p1ss with us"

An absolute shambles of a man.


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Wow. I don't think any manager had a chance with that bunch.

That is the danger when you fill your squad with players on the way down, just picking up a wage. Sweeney had played in a cup final for Millwall, Proudlock was highly rated at Sunderland, Linwood came from League One Tranmere and I've heard about Conlon's antics at Bradford before he came here.

In one sense I miss the identity that we built in the Conference years and hope we can get towards that again.


Proudlock never played for Sunderland and we signed Linwood from a Chester side who were worse than us

(Pedant mode)


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Linwood's career was in terminal decline which is surprising given the dedication and professionalism he describes.

As for the Proudlock, the Sunderland fans would be more likely to rate him if he never played for them. If he had they'd think he was a useless fat sharp object like we do.
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Think he was referred to as Paul Deadwood.


Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
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Well if either one of those absolute girl privates sets foot here again..... you disgusting disrespectful useless illegitimates
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Most of that squad were at semi pro teams within a few years, what a bunch of girl privates, and poor woodsy.

This is why we need to support our manager though, remember this was jolleys first ever full season(start to finish) in charge of a professional team, think about how valuable a few years experience has been in your own jobs. I really don't want to ever be a merry go round club for managers or players ever again, because that's what can happen.
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Proudlock never played for Sunderland and we signed Linwood from a Chester side who were worse than us

(Pedant mode)


However, he was highly rated at Wolves.

I find it very hard to believe that Deadwood (RIP Doris) believes it OK to laugh & joke about effectively taking the urine out of hard-working fans.
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I don’t think we blamed Neil Woods, we blamed the one who appointed him and who must have known the score with that gang.

What I did blame Neil for was not getting us back up straightaway by not realising the sort of players and tactics needed to get out of the conference.


He would have been the managerial appointment of the century if he'd managed to get us promoted before the end of February 2011.


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Well I’ve just listened and although I’m not massively surprised, it is incredible to have it confirmed.

I feel so sorry for Woods. He should never have been put in that position. flipping obvious we’d go down. Massive failure in due diligence in?appointing that clown Newell in the first place and an even bigger one expecting Woods to sort it out. I’d have taken a flipping flamethrower to those useless illegitimates.
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Most of that squad were at semi pro teams within a few years, what a bunch of girl privates, and poor woodsy.

This is why we need to support our manager though, remember this was jolleys first ever full season(start to finish) in charge of a professional team, think about how valuable a few years experience has been in your own jobs. I really don't want to ever be a merry go round club for managers or players ever again, because that's what can happen.


Couldn`t be said any better than above!

Regarding the interview: We were lucky that Ryan Bennett, who played for us at the time, obviously didn`t follow the rest of those seasoned "pros" ("Pro" used extremely lightly) into alcoholism. We never would have earned those very welcome transfer fees if that was the case. I wonder if other young players, who later gave up on their careers, followed those elder players into the pub and onto the end of their short careers? It`s very easy to be influenced by what older guys does at that age...
And I really do not have any words strong enough to describe how much I despise Newell and those guys like Linwood who made fools of the fans who paid their hard-earned money to watch the team. If I were an employer, I definitely wouldn`t want to hire people with such unprofessional ways of conducting their business. Disgrace!


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So renowned for it that his appointment was met with overwhelming approval and optimism amongst the supporters. His previous job at Luton was successful. I don't remember anybody saying we shouldn't have hired that urine head...


I seen this said before, and didn’t agree then either.

His previous job was with Hartlepool where it was well known he had an issue with drink. A housemate of mine at the time was a Hartlepool fan and told me several stories of his antics, including being drunk up at the services on the way to a game. If he was aware of this then I struggle to see how due diligence from Fenty wouldn’t have uncovered Newells love of the beer. I can’t for one minute think he didn’t know but he saw a relatively ‘big’ name who needed a job.

I take your point that many lauded what Fenty did but if you ‘didn’t hear anyone saying we shouldn’t have hired that urine head’ then you weren’t  listening closely enough.
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It was an open secret in Luton that Newell had a problem with drink and surrounded himself with similar people.


Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
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Wow. I saw the thread and wondered how bad it could really be; but there were some pretty shocking revelations there. In that context, you have to credit Woodstock for turning it around sufficiently that it even went to the last game of the season.

Completely changes my perception of him as a manager actually.

Incidentally, at the time I knew a lad whose family owned a pub in Leeds regularly frequented by Barry Conlon (I have his autograph on a beer mat). I won’t repeat some of the stories I was told, but they very much align with this (and worse) - it just corroborates it really.

Fúcking bunch of cúnts.


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Incidentally, at the time I knew a lad whose family owned a pub in Leeds regularly frequented by Barry Conlon (I have his autograph on a beer mat). I won’t repeat some of the stories I was told, but they very much align with this (and worse) - it just corroborates it really.

Fúcking bunch of cúnts.


I lived in Headingley at the time....imagine my surprise.
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I'm surprised none of them had a beer belly.    


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In John Fenty's defence Neil Woods wasn't his choice...he wanted Slade (for better or worse!) but was outvoted by the rest of the Board.


That may have been the case but he should have sacked him during that dreadful run without a win
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I am furious having listened to that. Its not just the lack of care at the time, if I had behaved anything like those tossers I would be ashamed in hindsight, he seems to revel in it. Fine you may not like Grimsby as a place but to show that level of disrespect to a club is disgraceful.

The main thing it makes me do is admire Woods, no chance in hell to turn that toxic environment around, .
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Wow. I saw the thread and wondered how bad it could really be; but there were some pretty shocking revelations there. In that context, you have to credit Woodstock for turning it around sufficiently that it even went to the last game of the season.

Completely changes my perception of him as a manager actually.

Incidentally, at the time I knew a lad whose family owned a pub in Leeds regularly frequented by Barry Conlon (I have his autograph on a beer mat). I won’t repeat some of the stories I was told, but they very much align with this (and worse) - it just corroborates it really.

Fúcking bunch of cúnts.


Your famous rant of the time seems even more appropriate now.


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Can anyone provide a link please without having to sign in to Spotify or whatever it is ???


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I'm surprised none of them had a beer belly.    




Fentys out
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I am suprised in this modern age that a football club in this case GTFC can`t sue twits like this when they have basically admitted to gross misconduct that cost the Club millions? I hope I bump into Linwood at some point and the two of us can discuss our feelings about GTFC over a pt . I wish the very worst for him and all those who acted the same from that era credit to the youngsters that Season who did go down fighting.
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Can we get the Trust to invite these lot as guests one day next season?
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I'd like to see the fans of Leagues 1 & 2 (the clubs who suffer most from these grabbing charlatans) put together a Top 2 Worst/Most Unprofessional Players To Wear The Shirt for their respective clubs. Put them into a rough Top 100-ish chart with the other clubs and add the worst photo available of them and their worst stats/misdemeanours and send it to all of the footy blogs on the net.

Could do it in the style of Top Trumps with the photo and stats, but let it go viral and don't spare the vitriol in the assesment of each one and actually shame them as their jolly japes are seen by all (possibly their next potential club)


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I'd like to see the fans of Leagues 1 & 2 (the clubs who suffer most from these grabbing charlatans) put together a Top 2 Worst/Most Unprofessional Players To Wear The Shirt for their respective clubs. Put them into a rough Top 100-ish chart with the other clubs and add the worst photo available of them and their worst stats/misdemeanours and send it to all of the footy blogs on the net.

Could do it in the style of Top Trumps with the photo and stats, but let it go viral and don't spare the vitriol in the assesment of each one and actually shame them as their jolly japes are seen by all (possibly their next potential club)


Pretty sure we can do a Town eleven

You`re not fit to wear the shirt

1 Rhys Wilmott/Nick Colgan/Peter Grotier (All 3 were crap for Town and upset me greatly)
2 Paul Dixon (How on earth did he ever get a proffesional contract?)
3 Aswad Thomas (Pains me to stick him in cos he had ability but never fulfilled the potential he had then left under a cloud )
4 Tony Crane ( Epitomised everything that`s wrong from an attitude point of view)
5 Paul Linwood (See above)
6 Peter Sweeney (See comments on Linwood plus had bags of talent he chose to throw away)
7 Scott Brown (Drink driving etc whilst supposed to be Captain and setting an example)
8 John Welsh (Assaulting a woman whilst drunk in a city centre prior to signing supposed to be captain and setting an example)
9 Barry Conlon (Awful attitude to everything especially training and proffessionalism his display at home to Bradford in Neil Woods first game is the worst individual performance from a Town player I have ever seen in terms of effort)
10 Richard Brodie (Whilst only a loanee at Town still made me sick with his terrible attitude )
11 Joe Robles (Came in unfit and left the same way I only saw him for 45 mins but can claim at 47 and Obese to be fitter faster and better than him)

Manager Mike Newell (The football would be dire but the end of season p1ss up epic)
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Pretty sure we can do a Town eleven

You`re not fit to wear the shirt

1 Rhys Wilmott/Nick Colgan/Peter Grotier (All 3 were crap for Town and upset me greatly)
2 Paul Dixon (How on earth did he ever get a proffesional contract?)
3 Aswad Thomas (Pains me to stick him in cos he had ability but never fulfilled the potential he had then left under a cloud )
4 Tony Crane ( Epitomised everything that`s wrong from an attitude point of view)
5 Paul Linwood (See above)
6 Peter Sweeney (See comments on Linwood plus had bags of talent he chose to throw away)
7 Scott Brown (Drink driving etc whilst supposed to be Captain and setting an example)
8 John Welsh (Assaulting a woman whilst drunk in a city centre prior to signing supposed to be captain and setting an example)
9 Barry Conlon (Awful attitude to everything especially training and proffessionalism his display at home to Bradford in Neil Woods first game is the worst individual performance from a Town player I have ever seen in terms of effort)
10 Richard Brodie (Whilst only a loanee at Town still made me sick with his terrible attitude )
11 Joe Robles (Came in unfit and left the same way I only saw him for 45 mins but can claim at 47 and Obese to be fitter faster and better than him)
12 Martin Butler (My personal I flipping hate you ya twit Town player cost a legend his job with his no shows after signing a lucrative contract)

Manager Mike Newell (The football would be dire but the end of season p1ss up epic)


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And all this happened on Fentys watch ...... and to think he wants his loans back . Just another embarrassing moment in his tenure ...


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Pretty sure we can do a Town eleven

You`re not fit to wear the shirt

1 Rhys Wilmott/Nick Colgan/Peter Grotier (All 3 were crap for Town and upset me greatly)
2 Paul Dixon (How on earth did he ever get a proffesional contract?)
3 Aswad Thomas (Pains me to stick him in cos he had ability but never fulfilled the potential he had then left under a cloud )
4 Tony Crane ( Epitomised everything that`s wrong from an attitude point of view)
5 Paul Linwood (See above)
6 Peter Sweeney (See comments on Linwood plus had bags of talent he chose to throw away)
7 Scott Brown (Drink driving etc whilst supposed to be Captain and setting an example)
8 John Welsh (Assaulting a woman whilst drunk in a city centre prior to signing supposed to be captain and setting an example)
9 Barry Conlon (Awful attitude to everything especially training and proffessionalism his display at home to Bradford in Neil Woods first game is the worst individual performance from a Town player I have ever seen in terms of effort)
10 Richard Brodie (Whilst only a loanee at Town still made me sick with his terrible attitude )
11 Joe Robles (Came in unfit and left the same way I only saw him for 45 mins but can claim at 47 and Obese to be fitter faster and better than him)

Manager Mike Newell (The football would be dire but the end of season p1ss up epic)


Problem being we can probably do a 2nd and 3rd 11. You didn't include Forecast, Proudlock, Hamilton, Heywood or Butler for starters.
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Couldn`t be said any better than above!

Regarding the interview: We were lucky that Ryan Bennett, who played for us at the time, obviously didn`t follow the rest of those seasoned "pros" ("Pro" used extremely lightly) into alcoholism. We never would have earned those very welcome transfer fees if that was the case. I wonder if other young players, who later gave up on their careers, followed those elder players into the pub and onto the end of their short careers? It`s very easy to be influenced by what older guys does at that age...


There were definitely a couple of party boys among the younger players we had at the club. Can't really name names anymore since The Fishy might get shut down again when somebody doesn't like the truth. Peter Bore however is one lad who was never a drinker at the club, was friends with my sister and her friends and they always said he never drank when he was out. Tales of some other young players were a bit different though  .


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I read the summary in the telewag but can't bring myself to listen to that moron. Is he trying to sell a book or something?
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His claim of 15 pints a session might be to impress his 'Alpha Male' mates on the interview
I wouldn't have Paul Dixon in the worst team - based on attitude etc I think he gave 100%
It just never worked out for him

There is so much goes on at footy clubs just like any business - and it is incredibly hard for any manager to deal with

Good news is all that shower of shite have left but Neil is doing a great job with the academy etc - and with several good players coming through they will certainly have been influenced by a top pro




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"Newelly", FFS.

Indicates the sort of intellect that Woods had to work with when he took over. Linwood himself says all you need to know about the character of them.

Makes you wish that Laws had been in charge, because at least one or two of them might have got a well-deserved smack!
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Makes you wonder if it could have been different under Woods with the right set of players


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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There were definitely a couple of party boys among the younger players we had at the club. Can't really name names anymore since The Fishy might get shut down again when somebody doesn't like the truth. Peter Bore however is one lad who was never a drinker at the club, was friends with my sister and her friends and they always said he never drank when he was out. Tales of some other young players were a bit different though  .


Well he's making up for it now as he's always out.  He's been seeing my sister.  Although she claims we are just friends.  




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Makes you wonder if it could have been different under Woods with the right set of players


He had the chance to sign the right set of players but went for Lewis Gobern instead.


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The bloke seems proud to have been in a pathetic excuse of a team.

What an absolute weirdo.


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Can anyone provide a link please without having to sign in to Spotify or whatever it is ???


Here's the interview in all its gory details.

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Former Grimsby Town defender Paul Linwood has lifted the lid on the club’s final season before relegation from the Football League – and the drinking culture that was prevalent.

The Mariners were relegated from the EFL back in 2010, leading to six years in non-league before eventually returning to League Two in 2016.

Town started the 2009/10 season under then-manager Mike Newell, before the former Luton boss was sacked in October.

Youth Team coach Neil Woods took over, but couldn’t prevent the team from being relegated as they went down following defeat to Burton on the final day of the season.

Former Tranmere and Chester player Linwood had only joined the Mariners that same summer, and subsequently left the club following their relegation.

And, speaking to the I Had Trials Once… podcast, the 35-year-old spoke in detail about the events leading up to Town’s relegation from the Football League – including how players would drink on the way to training, and Newell’s unique team talk with a fire extinguisher.

Linwood said

"Have you seen the scene in Star Wars in the bar? It’s just like a weird bar – that’s every bar in Grimsby. I just didn’t take to it at all. We had all the money problems at Chester, I was owed loads of money, I was lending money left, right and centre. I had to tap into Jon Walters who was on a few quid at the time!

I signed a three-year deal at Grimsby. Mike Newell signed me – he was my old reserve team manager. It was just a team full of alcoholics – people talk about a drinking culture, but this was ridiculous.

The reason it went wrong is because Newelly got the sack early doors, and we all loved Newelly. We weren’t doing too great, but everyone had that respect for him and we’d just turned it round - we had loads of injuries. Newelly was the type of manager who would give you just enough rope to hang yourself, and we were just clawing it back.

One day, we got smashed by someone, and the Monday morning he came in. We’re all sat in the changing room, and Newelly’s coming down the corridor. “Everyone in the f***ing changing room now! Get in!”

Everyone’s like ‘f***ing hell’. The captain Matty Haywood stands up and just goes “listen lads, he’s good to us. If he goes off on one, no-one answers back, just take it.”

Anyway, he comes in with a fire extinguisher and starts squirting the f*** out of everyone!

We had loads of days and nights out, and we were turning it round. He had a falling out upstairs after one of the games, and he got the sack. The Youth Team manager took over. Now the Youth Team manager saw the older-ish lads there, and he just hated it. We all had a drink anyway, and Newelly used to join us – he was always with us, him and his assistant. He used to ring on a Tuesday and go “where are you?”

“Nowhere gaffer, we’re just in Costa.” “I know you’re in the pub, I’m coming!” It was good under Newelly, and the Youth Team manager came in and just hated all that. But it’s the worst thing he could have done because the players just rebelled against him, and there were a lot of big characters in that dressing room he couldn’t handle.

We got relegated. I signed three years, and did one season, but literally it was getting to a stage where all the wives and girlfriends never moved up. Because we were doing badly in the league, the wives and girlfriends were like “well we’ll stay at home, see how the season pans out. We might move up at Christmas, we might move at the end of the season.”

We were all within a two-mile radius of each other in massive houses. For about £500 a month, we had mansions. You’d finish training, Adam Proudlock on the Whatsapp group would say “lads, I’m just having a pint at the Laceby Arms”, and the whole squad would be in there. 15 pints, easy.

It was the only pub we could get away with it. It was in a tiny little village, and we were dead inconspicuous – we used to go in our kits!

Even I turned round one day and said “this has gone too far.” We’d had a Monday session – straight after training, we finished boozing about five that morning, and then we were in for training at nine the next day.

Adam Proudlock and Peter Sweeney came to pick us up, and both were just the most unbelievable players who had just tossed it off at this point. Those two came to pick me up after a session, and we were drinking cans of Fosters on the way to training, which is out of order because I f***ing hate Fosters!

I drank on the way to training, but in the end I was thinking “we need to sort ourselves out here. It's not fair on fans” because there were some good people there, but none of us took to Grimsby at all.

We got relegated. They had us by the balls really – we got relegated in the last game. If we’d have stayed up, my money would have gone up, and if we’d gone down my wages would’ve gone down 40 per cent, so they had everyone over a barrel just to leave without any pay-offs. A few quid and I was on my way".



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He had the chance to sign the right set of players but went for Lewis Gobern instead.


I don’t think anyone (Woods included) had any idea of what we had to expect when we went down to the conference.

Looking at our team the game we played in our first non-league game:

Arthur, Watt, Ridley, Kempson, Hudson, Bore, Leary, Wood (Eagle 58 ), Peacock, Coulson, Connell (Dixon 88 ).
Subs Not Used: Garner, Cummins, Samuels.

There’s a few decent players there. Just never really had any creativity from centre midfield or a striker to play alongside Connell. I’m slightly surprised that team didn’t perform better than it did.


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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His claim of 15 pints a session might be to impress his 'Alpha Male' mates on the interview


15 pints? - lightweight! Not fit to refill Gally's glass (or lace his boots)

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His work e-mail address is on his linkin profile if anybody fances a chat
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Depressing stuff . We all knew about Newells antics . But never knew the extent to which the players were taking the urine . Instead of throwing advertising boards at the police we should’ve been down the tunnel and pulled the main culprits out onto burtons pitch for a kicking


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What an absolute male masturbator, a no mark footballer who I hope falls off a cliff to his death. The pain he and his excuse for team mates put people I've known for decades through, people who have this club in their hearts. The states I saw them in at Burton, grown men, myself included in tears and inconsolable. Six years of disgrace, from which we are still feeling the after effects. Our club is now a much smaller club than the one they destroyed. Newell was an sharp object of the highest order, Linwood? I'd forgotten the excrement illegitimate, Sweeney? Only confirms what was generally known about him. He should have played Championship football all his career and retired to his castle. I hope the illegitimate is packing fish fingers for an agency for minimum wage, I'm fuming and wish nothing but the worse of luck on all the illegitimate waste of spaces.
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Arseholesthe lot of em.


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Well he's making up for it now as he's always out.  He's been seeing my sister.  Although she claims we are just friends.  


Well he's not a footballer anymore so I guess he's off the fitness stuff. Dunno what he does these days not ran into him in ages.


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I don’t think anyone (Woods included) had any idea of what we had to expect when we went down to the conference.

Looking at our team the game we played in our first non-league game:

Arthur, Watt, Ridley, Kempson, Hudson, Bore, Leary, Wood (Eagle 58 ), Peacock, Coulson, Connell (Dixon 88 ).
Subs Not Used: Garner, Cummins, Samuels.

There’s a few decent players there. Just never really had any creativity from centre midfield or a striker to play alongside Connell. I’m slightly surprised that team didn’t perform better than it did.


There is also some excrement in that team. Lee flipping Ridley one of the worst players I have seen in 50 odd years.

Some are getting a bit gooey eyed about Woods but he signed Serge Makofo and gave the clown a 3 year contract and he also took us to our lowest league position in our history..
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Well I’ve just listened and although I’m not massively surprised, it is incredible to have it confirmed.

I feel so sorry for Woods. He should never have been put in that position. flipping obvious we’d go down. Massive failure in due diligence in?appointing that clown Newell in the first place and an even bigger one expecting Woods to sort it out. I’d have taken a flipping flamethrower to those useless illegitimates.


He accepted the position and I find it very hard to believe that he didn't have a clue about how the first team squad were under Newell, he was part of the running of GTFC for 6 years prior to taking over as manager.
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There is also some excrement in that team. Lee flipping Ridley one of the worst players I have seen in 50 odd years.

Some are getting a bit gooey eyed about Woods but he signed Serge Makofo and gave the clown a 3 year contract and he also took us to our lowest league position in our history..


Lee Ridley wasn’t that bad first season.  It was the second season he seemingly turned to mush. Away at York, I’m not sure if it was Ashley Chambers? I’ve never seen a winger have a field day like it.


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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If you got to paul Linwood LinkedIn his numbdr and emails on there if you fancy telling the sharp object what you think!
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His claim of 15 pints a session might be to impress his 'Alpha Male' mates on the interview


At the time, there were rumours going round that certain players were known for...powdering their nose. 15 pints and out till 5am with training at 9...well I can believe it.


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Just highlights the absolute impossible job Woods had on his hands.

Side in Newell's last game:

Colgan, Bore, Bennett, Linwood, Wood, Forbes, Shahin, Mendy, Sweeney, Akpro, Magennis.

Side in the final game that season, less than 7 months later:

Colgan, Bore, Widdowson, Atkinson, Lancashire, Coulson, Devitt, Sinclair, Hudson, Akpro, Peacock.

3 players.  Colgan, Bore and Akpro.

That's a wholesale change that was required during a season whilst you're fighting a relegation battle.  Woods did bloody well to take it to the final day!  
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Just highlights the absolute impossible job Woods had on his hands.

Side in Newell's last game:

Colgan, Bore, Bennett, Linwood, Wood, Forbes, Shahin, Mendy, Sweeney, Akpro, Magennis.

Side in the final game that season, less than 7 months later:

Colgan, Bore, Widdowson, Atkinson, Lancashire, Coulson, Devitt, Sinclair, Hudson, Akpro, Peacock.

3 players.  Colgan, Bore and Akpro.
Fair to say Bore,Bennett,Shahin and Akpro all gave their best from the team that started Newell`s last game and the team that finished the Season like you say did brilliantly to take it to the last game.Mike Newell burn in hell.
That's a wholesale change that was required during a season whilst you're fighting a relegation battle.  Woods did bloody well to take it to the final day!  


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Just highlights the absolute impossible job Woods had on his hands.

Side in Newell's last game:

Colgan, Bore, Bennett, Linwood, Wood, Forbes, Shahin, Mendy, Sweeney, Akpro, Magennis.

Side in the final game that season, less than 7 months later:

Colgan, Bore, Widdowson, Atkinson, Lancashire, Coulson, Devitt, Sinclair, Hudson, Akpro, Peacock.

3 players.  Colgan, Bore and Akpro.

That's a wholesale change that was required during a season whilst you're fighting a relegation battle.  Woods did bloody well to take it to the final day!  


Olly Lancashire just been released by Swindon.
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My wife was approached by Neil Woods to do some psychological work with the team. Nothing came of it, but it all starts to fall into place for the situations he was in.
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He accepted the position and I find it very hard to believe that he didn't have a clue about how the first team squad were under Newell, he was part of the running of GTFC for 6 years prior to taking over as manager.



Exactly. Also isn't it on record  that Woods was Parkers plus other Board members choice and JF , although not convinced , went along with it?


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Just read the interview in the Telegraph and don't think I've ever felt this angry or upset about anything Town-related.  

Someone please tell me that those in charge learnt from it at the time, and can guarantee that such a situation is never allowed to develop again.







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Just read the interview in the Telegraph and don't think I've ever felt this angry or upset about anything Town-related.  

Someone please tell me that those in charge learnt from it at the time, and can guarantee that such a situation is never allowed to develop again.


Learning from making a complete pig's ear of things is not a Grimsby Town strong point is it? Has the track record on managerial appointments been startlingly good post-Newell (or Newell-post ).

I suppose some would count PH as a successful counterbalance but other than that .........

Oh, and good to see that the GT has its finger on the news pulse, only 2 days behind The Fishy.



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I’ve been stewing over this for a few days now and I’m not sure I can put into words how angry/sad/disillusioned/worried it has made me feel.

Firstly the whole podcast has just copulated me off - three no mark male masturbators measuring their cocks against each other and people listen to it!? Good example of everything that’s wrong with society.

Secondly Linwood and a load of other no mark male masturbators represented my football club, stole their wages and rode off into the sunset at the end of the season having so massively copulated us over we still haven’t properly recovered from it - and now he finds it funny and goes round telling it as a funny story on useless insignificant shitty podcasts.  Burton was the lowest point of my footballing life by miles and he thinks it’s funny?!

Thirdly if him and his ilk are representative of professional footballers as a breed why the intercourse have I spent so much energy, time and money on following the game because if they are it’s all a big flipping lie and they’re in it for themselves not the club and certainly not the fans.

Finally how was this allowed to happen? Seriously John Fenty - you employed an alcoholic as the manager who signed a load of pissheads who were coming into work either half cut or hungover and did nothing about it until it was far too late? Would you have allowed that to happen at Five Star fish? Would you have given top jobs on big money to a load of alcoholic half wit arseholes and then let them run your business into the ground and not done anything to stop them? It’s not as if everyone couldn’t see the signs on a Saturday afternoon whilst it was happening and all of us weren’t at BP or Cheapside day in day out literally close enough to smell the booze on “Newellys” breath.

I’m just so disappointed with the whole flipping lot of them.


We're going to need a bigger boat.....
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I’ve been stewing over this for a few days now and I’m not sure I can put into words how angry/sad/disillusioned/worried it has made me feel.

Firstly the whole podcast has just copulated me off - three no mark male masturbators measuring their cocks against each other and people listen to it!? Good example of everything that’s wrong with society.

Secondly Linwood and a load of other no mark male masturbators represented my football club, stole their wages and rode off into the sunset at the end of the season having so massively copulated us over we still haven’t properly recovered from it - and now he finds it funny and goes round telling it as a funny story on useless insignificant shitty podcasts.  Burton was the lowest point of my footballing life by miles and he thinks it’s funny?!

Thirdly if him and his ilk are representative of professional footballers as a breed why the intercourse have I spent so much energy, time and money on following the game because if they are it’s all a big flipping lie and they’re in it for themselves not the club and certainly not the fans.

Finally how was this allowed to happen? Seriously John Fenty - you employed an alcoholic as the manager who signed a load of pissheads who were coming into work either half cut or hungover and did nothing about it until it was far too late? Would you have allowed that to happen at Five Star fish? Would you have given top jobs on big money to a load of alcoholic half wit arseholes and then let them run your business into the ground and not done anything to stop them? It’s not as if everyone couldn’t see the signs on a Saturday afternoon whilst it was happening and all of us weren’t at BP or Cheapside day in day out literally close enough to smell the booze on “Newellys” breath.

I’m just so disappointed with the whole flipping lot of them.


I'm still struggling with the idea of it too, and the post above sums it all up for me.

Have there been any comments about this by the people in charge at the club?  I'd really like to know that there's no chance of it happening again before I shell out for my next season ticket.







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I wouldn't expect the club to comment tbh. They sacked the manager involved a decade ago - now they're not employing  a dipsomaniac as manager I doubt it'll happen again.


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What an utter shambles.

It's like an episode of Mike Bassett Football Manger.
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I wouldn't expect the club to comment tbh. They sacked the manager involved a decade ago - now they're not employing  a dipsomaniac as manager I doubt it'll happen again.


This.
Shocking revelations but in the past so move on.
The club certainly wouldn't put out a statement saying they can guarantee this would never happen again??
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Why is this 10 pages?


Poojah's fishy

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Why is this 10 pages?


Because it’s a pretty outrageous episode in our club’s recent history.
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Newell sucked a lot of us in to be truthful at the start , let’s face it he had a good playing career then a ok period in managing however it literally took the kunt a matter of days before he started getting drunk. Within a 3 weeks I’d had 2 reports of him being drunk in boozers of the a16. The bit i find strange is if I knew of his antics and others how come it took the club ages to cotton on.
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Newell sucked a lot of us in to be truthful at the start , let’s face it he had a good playing career then a ok period in managing however it literally took the kunt a matter of days before he started getting drunk. Within a 3 weeks I’d had 2 reports of him being drunk in boozers of the a16. The bit i find strange is if I knew of his antics and others how come it took the club ages to cotton on.


You only had to talk to any Luton Fan,it was an open secret,and demonstrates the appalling lack of due diligence undertaken  


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