Fenty Out

Quoted from Bigdog

Agree with everything you say up until the last sentence..

The last sentence is utter bullshitt and really unfair on some posters on here that have tried to make a difference but have been met with a brick wall. Others will speak for themselves but for your information so you can get your facts straight..

I've offered my services to the Trust if ever they want to change tack and look to raise funds to take the club over or take it upon themselves to market for potential investors.

I've offered my PR services to GTFC for free but said it wouldn't work because I was in a different country. I'm sure that internet thingy started thirty years ago didn't it?

I've also provided the club with the contact details of a world-famous retired soccer star that is looking to buy a football club. It would have been only a prospective punt but that punt would have taken little effort or time. The contact was never followed up and dismissed. I was also told that the the old GTFC investment prospectus hadn't been updated for years. So much for the board proactively looking for investors. Absolutely no presence of looking for investment online like a prospectus page on the official website or any presence on the club's social media outlets. Just archaic and stinks of the 70s, wood-panelled boardroom walls and chats in cigar filled smokey rooms over a single malt (blend in GTFC's case).

So yet again the club has been at its lowest ebb for twenty years, doing practically fook all about it and no one is allowed to moan about it unless they're going to take the club over. Talk about passing the buck. What the fook should the custodians be doing? It's their responsibility to secure the future of the club not their paying public who deserve their say. It's often forgotten that they're the lifeblood of the club and actually keep their club going while others do not invest anything at all, not even expertise unfortunately.

This subject wouldn't keep coming up if the club had some modicum of success over the years. Yet, here we are after twenty years still waiting for our second chance of finishing in the top half of the fourth tier in English football, can't sell more than 3.5k home tickets with free ticket and slashed price offers for a Bank Holiday Monday game, and cohorts of our owner just want to wade into what's left of the remaining fanbase who are on the verge of total apathy and in the last throes of protest. Unbelievably complacent and misguided actions of the cohorts in my book.

So.. I'll bang the drum as hard as I can with a clear conscience until there's significant change at the top of our football club, and when it finally happens, GTFC will be all the better for it..

Quoted from rancido

You won't let it lie because we have different views and it's got nothing to do with "self-pitying victim" because I am certainly not a victim of anything n this thread or any other. ps and you still had no answer or speculative thoughts on our situation if JF had not stepped in all those years ago!

Quoted from pen penfras

Maybe you've tried to do something in offering services, whatever that means, and making suggestions.The suggestions are speculative and probably wouldn't have led anywhere if they had been pursued, but should have been looked into regardless if there was any foundation. But you having done something doesn't mean that everybody is, all most people seem to do is come up with "the trust should do something", despite them repeatedly saying that nobody on the trust has the desire to pursue the ownership and running of the club.

If the general consensus really is that the fans want a change and want to pursue fan ownership, then setting up a fund raiser and getting people on board through the many means available nowadays should at least give a good indication that this is what the majority want. The fact that nobody has even attempted this, as far as I know, makes me think that this is much more of a minority than certain posters try to have us believe.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Newport seem to be managing OK.

Quoted from jock dock tower

We've had Trusts, we've had Fan Ownership, but how about an amalgam of the two such as a Co-Operative? I have absolutely no idea whether it would work, but it's a model that suits thousands of other businesses across the UK so why not football?

Quoted from ska face

Speculative thoughts? Erm...who cares? Why waste the energy even thinking about it?

What people want is change in the future, fans deserve and demand better, serfs like yourself are holding the club back.

Quoted from rancido

.....and then you lose all possible credence in you argument with the expression "serfs like yourself " in reference to me. It's always the last resort to use insults when you don't actually have a concrete answer or alternative.I want change as much as anybody but I'm still waiting for the positive alternative to come along,u unless of course you already know something.

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

You lot are up a F'ing tree. Same sh1t different thread. How on earth do you think you all be able to come to a decision on a sale of a player or running of the club. Who would keep the bank balance afloat? Who's going to be responsible for keeping club in the black? Who's going to represent the club? Give your heads a wobble and get back in the real world!!

• How on earth do you think you all be able to come to a decision on a sale of a player or running of the club
  
  Fan elected representative/representatives with a set term to make such decisions.  Similar to the way my building society is run.  I don't make any day-to-day decisions on how they're run but my vote (should I use it) is there for me to use.
  
  
• Who would keep the bank balance afloat?
  
  Despite the fact that we're run like a bag of excrement, we've managed to maintain a steady financial ship in the last few years which has included the ability to pay back some of those infamous benign loans. It wouldn't take a financial expert to work out what our core business is on a year-to-year basis.  You work out your budget based on that and cut your cloth accordingly each year.  Any additional income from ticket sales, boosted merchandise, cup runs, player sales etc. is a bonus and can be used as seen fit, I would favour some reinvestment in the physical and development infrastructure (ground, youth development, training facilities), some going into the rainy day fund and some going towards either giving the manager an extra bit of a budget or a war chest. On an annual basis the expectations for ticket sales, merchandise sales, corporate sales are reviewed with fresh targets set.
  
  
  
• Who's going to be responsible for keeping club in the black?
  
  See above, a reasonably well run business doesn't need anyone to keep it in the black.  We do not need to be bankrolled by anyone.  We just need to run far better.
  
  
• Who's going to represent the club?
  
  See the first point.  Representative elected by the fans.  I'm pretty sure this is what happens at other fan run clubs without any major issues.
  

Quoted from GollyGTFC

You ok John?