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IMO I expect JF will go for the bells and flashing lights of a big name with all its expense, rather than the untried at this level Bignot --shame really
one could balance that by saying jf will be employing somebody that he knows he can deal with, he will be cheap compared to an experienced manager and he won't have to pay any compo if bignot is still without a contract. he must surely also know that the tried and tested bosses he has employed have been the failures and it is the up n coming (hurst/scott & slade) that have been the successes
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November 1, 2016, 10:54am |
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I have a suspicion Bignot is a good shout. If you think of all the managers Fenty has being involved with - the promotions from inside haven't worked, the big name out of work managers haven't worked but the promotions from lesser clubs (Hurst and Slade) have done well. It would not surprise me if he was the man.
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Well Bignot would tick most boxes for most people other than the two obvious one ie he hasn't managed in the League and he isn`t a big name.The latter we can dismiss fairly early big names don't guarantee success at any level however the first issue is a major concern and presumably this would be spoken about intensely during any interview?Of the candidates mentioned if we discount the big names he would surely have to be on a par with anything from below League 2 in most people`s eyes?These type of Managers need a chance and he would be taking over a fairly happy squad/team and would not really need to carry out any major surgery.I would welcome this appointment personally if we cant get Adkins/Evans who tick the big name and league experience category.
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RichMariner |
November 1, 2016, 11:03am |
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A lot is said about experience (and a good point was made earlier in the thread about preferring the word 'credentials').
Plenty of managers with experience in L1 and L2 will have a sacking on their CV too, so 'experience' works both ways.
I like the sound of Bignot. He says himself that he was thinking about - and planning for - managerial work when he was 19, so that's plenty of time to get experience (if six years at Solihull in itself, and the work with the Birmingham ladies' team, isn't already enough).
So it's not experience at out level. But the biggest question has to be:
Can you motivate 11 footballers to win games of football?
Yes, he'll be working at a higher level, against stronger opposing teams, but he'll also have better players at his disposal. It's all relative.
The Bogle relationship will work in his favour massively too.
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A lot is said about experience (and a good point was made earlier in the thread about preferring the word 'credentials').
Plenty of managers with experience in L1 and L2 will have a sacking on their CV too, so 'experience' works both ways.
I like the sound of Bignot. He says himself that he was thinking about - and planning for - managerial work when he was 19, so that's plenty of time to get experience (if six years at Solihull in itself, and the work with the Birmingham ladies' team, isn't already enough).
So it's not experience at out level. But the biggest question has to be:
Can you motivate 11 footballers to win games of football?
Yes, he'll be working at a higher level, against stronger opposing teams, but he'll also have better players at his disposal. It's all relative.
The Bogle relationship will work in his favour massively too.
He will also have a large passionate fanbase desperate to back him and his players to the hilt at home if he can deliver some attacking football.
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RichMariner |
November 1, 2016, 11:21am |
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Oh, and another thing to say in favour of Bignot...
Solihull matches have for a long time been good for goals. I play safe, odds-on bets as rolling accumulators, and over 1.5 match goals is (most weeks) a very safe bet when Solihull are involved.
They've just had a 1-0 win and a 1-0 defeat, but generally they tend to play an open game.
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November 1, 2016, 11:23am |
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Just a thought about Bignot, would he be respected by the more senior players in the squad? the likes of Collins, Dis, Warrington Macca etc
That's partly why you have a face to face interview. to get a feel of the person.
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November 1, 2016, 11:24am |
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I don't think that either Bill Shankly or Lawrie Mac had too much experience prior to managing Town, but they both did all right over the future years ?????
Every manager needs someone to take that first chance, and I would rather give an "up and comer" a go with ambition to progress, especially that we have got the current league position, and the excellent fan base, both home and away, rather than one that is a "name" and recent sackings.
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November 1, 2016, 11:28am |
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Virtually every decent manager we've had in our entire history has been on his way up rather than on his way down. In my adult lifetime AB, RuS and PH all came from non-league. GK, when I was a kid, came from Lincoln with very little experience. Better to take a chance with someone young and fresh than a failed manager who has been sacked several times IMHO.
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1mickylyons |
November 1, 2016, 11:31am |
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Some excellent posts and it seems most fans on here at least are being reasonable in their expectations.
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