Coulson

JT just tweeted that Coulson has been offered a reduced contract so will be free to leave at the end of the season.

What do people think about that? Obviously got the talent but not consistently set the league on fire this season.

He is free to leave whatever we offer him. (he is over 24)

I heard this on RH this morning and thought it strange as they were inferring he could leave because of our reduce offer.

Have RH hear dof Bosman?

Drifts in and out of games too often: good when on-form but that isn't every week, which is why he's down here with us!

well if he signs this reduced contract at least we know that he is loyal

If he played consistently at his best he'd be a league or two higher. I guess it comes down to whether we think we'll get somebody better to replace him. I would guess that'll be tough and would definitely like him to stay.

I imagine he's on very good money from the Woods days (possibly on similar to Connell, Arthur, Ridley, Kempson and Peacock). I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay on reduced terms (I hope he does) as I doubt many other L2/BSP teams would want him and pay his current wages.

Quoted from BlackBoots

Have RH hear dof Bosman?

They've got a Butterfield complex  

The club have an option another year on the same terms he's on now apparently. In theory they could enforce this and then sell him to stop him walking away for free.  Personally I'd want to keep him - if Soares was brought in as a replacement to play wide right, for me there's no comparison.

I said this about 2 months ago about 2 players getting offered a new 'reduced' contract offer and everyone ignored me and said I haven't got the evidence to back it up  

Coulson's settled in the area so if noone locally (scunny/lincoln) offer him better I reckon he'll sign it

The best wide player we have and probably our most consistent and reliable performer, criticism of him has been way off the mark. At this level he is definatly one we should be keeping.

I think he'd be more effective 'behind the front two' or upfront with someone like Elding if/when Hearn isn't available/here

He's the Kevin Donovan of our current era.  Always feels like there's more but delivers nevertheless.

Personally think we could do better... would keep as a squad player but not first choice.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

He's the Kevin Donovan of our current era.  Always feels like there's more but delivers nevertheless.

When he scores 21 goals in a promotion winning season, I think that'll be when we can compare him to Kevin Donovan.  

Quoted from headingly_mariner

The best wide player we have and probably our most consistent and reliable performer, criticism of him has been way off the mark. At this level he is definatly one we should be keeping.

18 assists says he must be doing something very right...

i like the comparison with donovan - think we're a bit over critical of him.got to remember he's a bsp player and i think we'd be lucky to get any better at this level

I have moaned about Coulo being in and out of games but 18 assists and 10 goals is a good return for a midfielder. Rumours have been circulating about him wanting away to a league club for a while though from what I understand. I wouldn't surprise me however if he did a Atko and his chosen 'league' club would be the new money bags in the Conference next season.

I very much want him to stay though!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

The best wide player we have and probably our most consistent and reliable performer, criticism of him has been way off the mark. At this level he is definatly one we should be keeping.

This

I would want him to sign the new deal offered BUT we need to cut our wage bill so if he wants away because he can get more elsewhere then good luck to him and we move on

Quoted from BlackBoots

I would want him to sign the new deal offered BUT we need to cut our wage bill so if he wants away because he can get more elsewhere then good luck to him and we move on

True. KHM could fill his boots. In both senses hopefully!

If we can get him on a decent wage we should keep him. If he wants a stupidly high wage his not worth it. Personally I'd like to keep him but we need to cut our cloth and if that means getting rid of coulo that means getting rid of  coulo at the end of the we have soares already and then we possibly have winn,artus,KHM next year for each side. So if he leaves its not the end of the world. Have a feeling though that if he does leave he'll end up on the scoresheet against us next year

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Personally think we could do better... would keep as a squad player but not first choice.

Has always been first choice when fit though, would prefer him to our other two recently aquired wide men, saying that we don`t know who H&S havein the pipe line

Quoted from bradzmilne

If we can get him on a decent wage we should keep him. If he wants a stupidly high wage his not worth it. Personally I'd like to keep him but we need to cut our cloth and if that means getting rid of coulo that means getting rid of  coulo at the end of the we have soares already and then we possibly have winn,artus,KHM next year for each side. So if he leaves its not the end of the world. Have a feeling though that if he does leave he'll end up on the scoresheet against us next year

Why would he leave for a conference team? We have one of the bigger budgets, if we can't afford his wage demands who else in the BSP could now Fleetwood have all but gone up?

Quoted from bradzmilne

If we can get him on a decent wage we should keep him. If he wants a stupidly high wage his not worth it. Personally I'd like to keep him but we need to cut our cloth and if that means getting rid of coulo that means getting rid of  coulo at the end of the we have soares already and then we possibly have winn,artus,KHM next year for each side. So if he leaves its not the end of the world. Have a feeling though that if he does leave he'll end up on the scoresheet against us next year

"Cut our cloth"
Open the ticket shop on match days only getting rid of all those office staff& get rid of 1 of our 2 managers then we would have more money for players

Quoted from barralad

18 assists says he must be doing something very right...

Mostly from corners i would imagine and would be a lot higher if he put in consistently good ones.

Like a lot of our players,he has done his best work on our run against the weaker teams and i suspect that's when most of his goals were accrued.

Not been as good lately against the top sides and i feel we have a few players who haven't quite cut the mustard when the opportunities were there to push on into the play offs.

I personally feel we need 4 or 5 better players to make an impact next year.Whether Coulo will be one of them,i don't know.

Quoted from TAGG

"Cut our cloth"
Open the ticket shop on match days only getting rid of all those office staff& get rid of 1 of our 2 managers then we would have more money for players

What a stupid statement ! We would still have to have an Assistant Manager plus if you got rid of one of The Dynamic Duo then I'm sure the other would resign.We are then back to square one needing another management set-up and another rebuilding process.

He's a great quality player with a good attitude.  Really want him to stay.  He may be  a little off-form lately, but overall he fulfils his role this season very well.

In my view, last season required more "Roy of the Rovers" displays from him because that team  lacked the skills, application and fitness that the current squad possess -- so Coulson had to seem to be everywhere, doing everything.

Quoted from TAGG

"Cut our cloth"
Open the ticket shop on match days only getting rid of all those office staff& get rid of 1 of our 2 managers then we would have more money for players

Why stop there? Lets get rid of Croudson, Stockdale and Moore. I'm sure Hurst could do it all on his own.

I thought it was said by those 'in the know' on here before that Scott and Hurst were paid the same wage as our previous Manager/Assistant Manager duo?

10 goals, 18 assists,say no more. hope the lad signs
UTMM

Quoted from mariner91

Why would he leave for a conference team? We have one of the bigger budgets, if we can't afford his wage demands who else in the BSP could now Fleetwood have all but gone up?

Luton and Mansfield are two of the top of my head, also Forest Green are rumoured to be next years Crawley/Fleetwood.

Quoted from cod.gtfc

Luton and Mansfield are two of the top of my head, also Forest Green are rumoured to be next years Crawley/Fleetwood.

I wouldn't think their budgets are much more than ours. Certainly not Mansfield's.

Pretty sure I've heard somewhere (maybe on here) that coulson has been playing with an ankle injury all season. maybe a full summers rest could see his best form return. If he stays.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Pretty sure I've heard somewhere (maybe on here) that coulson has been playing with an ankle injury all season. maybe a full summers rest could see his best form return. If he stays.

Its more than rest he needs.

Good when fit - reads the game well without blistering pace.

Needs to be fully fit over a period to be a worthwhile signing again.

Quoted from biggles9999

I thought it was said by those 'in the know' on here before that Scott and Hurst were paid the same wage as our previous Manager/Assistant Manager duo?

Exactly , but a certain individual on this board can't see that .

I've said it time and time again, of course he's inconsistent. He's a winger, I really do despair with people sometimes.

Even at the highest level wingers are inconsistent, so down here, probably more so.

Think he's a good player and the stats dont lie, also we all know he's got an ankle problem, had it at the start and playing as many games as he has probably hasn't helped.

If we keep him on reduced wage then I'd be very happy.

I like Coulo but we need more from the right wing.  If he stays which I hope he does then he needs to step up a couple of gears.  If he has been carrying knock then the summer will give him the rest he needs.  We can no longer afford to carry players and H&S are dealing with that side of the game.

Quoted from mariner91

I wouldn't think their budgets are much more than ours. Certainly not Mansfield's.

Pretty sure Lutons will be on their crowds and Mansfield's new owner was quoted as willing to spend to get out the division once the ground was sorted, that has now happened so expect him to spend next season.

Our budget will most likely be lower than this seasons too.

Quoted from rancido

What a stupid statement ! We would still have to have an Assistant Manager plus if you got rid of one of The Dynamic Duo then I'm sure the other would resign.We are then back to square one needing another management set-up and another rebuilding process.

We are a non league club so tell me why we need all the backroom staff we have and why that ticket office needs to open every day.
Don't talk daft no way would one of em resigned. Assistant manager  half the wages so more money for player budget.
Geting rid of top players for a few bob extra is a backward step again.

Quoted from cod.gtfc

Pretty sure Lutons will be on their crowds and Mansfield's new owner was quoted as willing to spend to get out the division once the ground was sorted, that has now happened so expect him to spend next season.

Our budget will most likely be lower than this seasons too.

I wasn't aware Mansfield had a new owner, that's a depressing thought.

Here's the situation with Michael. When he was injured last season and out for two months he wasn't scanned and subsequently has been playing with an ankle problem now for the last 18 months. He insisted on a scan some six weeks ago and it revealed a problem requirers an operation and did eighteen months ago. Its not a serious problem but is meaning he's struggling through games at the minute. He has been offered a new reduced contract but is waying up his options as there has been interest from league clubs. He's happy at Grimsby and is settled in the area but at times this season he hasn't enjoyed his football as much as he should and is concearned at he often see's little of the ball due to current tactics deployed by H&S. He enjoyed his football more under Woodsy mainly because he was given more freedom. He accepts though thats what he's adked to do and gets on with it. To conclude he's got tough choice to make but at the end of the day if your offered more money to play in the league you'd probably take it.

Quoted from Daftlad

Here's the situation with Michael. When he was injured last season and out for two months he wasn't scanned and subsequently has been playing with an ankle problem now for the last 18 months. He insisted on a scan some six weeks ago and it revealed a problem requirers an operation and did eighteen months ago. Its not a serious problem but is meaning he's struggling through games at the minute. He has been offered a new reduced contract but is waying up his options as there has been interest from league clubs. He's happy at Grimsby and is settled in the area but at times this season he hasn't enjoyed his football as much as he should and is concearned at he often see's little of the ball due to current tactics deployed by H&S. He enjoyed his football more under Woodsy mainly because he was given more freedom. He accepts though thats what he's adked to do and gets on with it. To conclude he's got tough choice to make but at the end of the day if your offered more money to play in the league you'd probably take it.

Thanks for the info mate, hope he stays.

Quoted from TAGG

We are a non league club so tell me why we need all the backroom staff we have and why that ticket office needs to open every day.
Don't talk daft no way would one of em resigned. Assistant manager  half the wages so more money for player budget.
Geting rid of top players for a few bob extra is a backward step again.

So you are saying that if the club sacked one of them then the other one would carry on. I don't think so.
As far as the office staff are concerned I am not in a position to know their roles and neither I suspect do you. The ticket office isn't manned specifically for ticket sales but utilises staff that are employed in the administration who can fill in as and when required.
I would have thought that decimating the backroom staff was a backward step.

Good player but always wanted to be a striker . Didnt look like one at Luton to me . Fair play to him playing with a bad ankle but sounds like he's on his way to me .

Quoted from rancido

So you are saying that if the club sacked one of them then the other one would carry on. I don't think so.  
As far as the office staff are concerned I am not in a position to know their roles and neither I suspect do you. The ticket office isn't manned specifically for ticket sales but utilises staff that are employed in the administration who can fill in as and when required.
I would have thought that decimating the backroom staff was a backward step.

You don’t live in the real world. No way would you or anyone else put your job and family’s livelihood in jeopardy just because ye mate gets sacked.
We are a non league club we don’t need all the off field staff we have.
It’s not a backward step if the money saved is used for player budget.  

We need to cut the cloth accordingly and getting rid of backroom staff isnt good

Part of the team that brought us down and that has stayed down is the cold hard truth.

lol.. i honestly think 1 bell end has poped up and gone Coulson is excrement he aint a natural winger etc and people have jumped on the band wagon, i dont get it, i go nearly every game and he looks mint every time and his record for a midfield player is sterling . His England call up was justified this season, good player and reduced contract or not will always be a good player in our squad. We had a cracking run of results this season and he was involved in nearly all of them .... i appreciate Winn and Soares are big names with also good midfied records (at least Soares is for goal scoring) but since they joined our midefield and performances have gone to rat excrement ...... Coulson is gleaming and i hope he stays.

Best midfield for this season based on performances ....

Coulson, Disley, Thanoj, Artus

Quoted from springstomind

lol.. i honestly think 1 bell end has poped up and gone Coulson is excrement he aint a natural winger etc and people have jumped on the band wagon, i dont get it, i go nearly every game and he looks mint every time and his record for a midfield player is sterling . His England call up was justified this season, good player and reduced contract or not will always be a good player in our squad. We had a cracking run of results this season and he was involved in nearly all of them .... i appreciate Winn and Soares are big names with also good midfied records (at least Soares is for goal scoring) but since they joined our midefield and performances have gone to rat excrement ...... Coulson is gleaming and i hope he stays.

Best midfield for this season based on performances ....

Coulson, Disley, Thanoj, Artus

I agree with the louis soares and the peter winn bit but disagree about the rest, coulson does not take the players on anymore, injured or not it doesnt matter

Quoted from Happy_Mariner

JT just tweeted that Coulson has been offered a reduced contract so will be free to leave at the end of the season.

What do people think about that? Obviously got the talent but not consistently set the league on fire this season.

disappointed  one of the best(on his day) at the club and if he does go will be a loss in my opinion

I know the club need to reduce the wage a tad, but can't we take exception for 1 player by exercising the additional 12 months on the same terms?  I know Elding reduced his, however if Coulo leaves I have total confidence in S&H finding a replacement, someone like Mackreth.  

this is more fenty cost cutting! he just does not get it and neither do most of you lot. Unless gtfc invest on the pitch it will be the drip drip drip of a slow death. exactly what HAS been happening under this regime. Now you can't argue with that one because it HAS happened and is not just conjecture! Just imagine what might have happened  if the money fenty and parker have put into the club had been spent on team building, it could have meant staying in the league and not losing as much. in fact maybe with incresed support breaking even.   success brings its own rewards. Just ask fleetwood and crawley. the choice is 1. A little bit of investment and the bottle to do it or 2. the keep the club just alive scenario. the old adage of speculate to accumulate springs to mind but you need to be brave to take that road, something that is in short supply here.

Didn't we have a top 7 wage bill in 09/10?

Quoted from realityman

this is more fenty cost cutting! he just does not get it and neither do most of you lot. Unless gtfc invest on the pitch it will be the drip drip drip of a slow death. exactly what HAS been happening under this regime. Now you can't argue with that one because it HAS happened and is not just conjecture! Just imagine what might have happened  if the money fenty and parker have put into the club had been spent on team building, it could have meant staying in the league and not losing as much. in fact maybe with incresed support breaking even.   success brings its own rewards. Just ask fleetwood and crawley. the choice is 1. A little bit of investment and the bottle to do it or 2. the keep the club just alive scenario. the old adage of speculate to accumulate springs to mind but you need to be brave to take that road, something that is in short supply here.

Spot on Rman, nail on head.
When you let one of the best players in this league go for the sake of a few bob it just shows how backward looking Fenty is. Then again he may know a 10 goal a season midfielder out there for 100 quid a week.  

A real shame if he does go but I can't blame him if he's got offers from league clubs.

I still think you can tell that he's not a natural winger but the amount of goals and assists he's got speak for themselves. If he's carrying an injury then you can see why he hasn't been as consistent lately after a long season.

I like Coulo. I think he will be on a good whack though. We do have a high wage bill and you have to ask where it is going. The gaffers obviously believe we need strengthening. If that means freeing up money at the top end, so be it.

His assists and goals this season suggests he's one of our more effective attacking players but I'm guessing the managers feel the money spent that is higher than the average first team wage would be best spread to make a stronger team than stronger individuals. With a wage bill, you could have 11 very good individuals. Or 8 good players and 3 excellent players. The way injuries happen though, the first option is an aweful lot safer.

You could also argue that wide players are not as crucial as your goalkeeper, centre backs, centre mids and strikers, so paying a bigger whack for players in the thick of it will have a better return.

Fingers crossed that he signs sticks around. For him, he could have an awesome season and becomes a strong league 2 player with us. Promotion is the most important goal though and difficult decisions have to be made.

i think if he stays and takes a paycut it proves hes loyal to the club, personally id like him to stay, but if he does go i  dont think it the end of the world, yes i no hes got 18 assists, but alot of them have been from corners, and i think artus is a good corner taker anyway, and i think there are alot of good wingers in this league just as good as coulson if he decides to move on, i think next season if looking bright, i think we need to keep the main team, let a few people go to free up wages such as duffy, arthur, makofo and bring in another striker, winger, and a box to box midfielder and probably a left back because i dont think we'll get townsend back, but im looking forward to next seasona dn looking forward to see some of the signing we make, onwards and upwards! UTM

Allegedly one of the club's highest earners and therefore over the wage threshold that has been set...apparently. Don't shoot the messenger!

Also firmly believe that there are other better wingers in this league on less money, Mackreth being a good example.

He won't be waiting long for offers this summer - especially from League Two. Maybe not the teams at the top end but certainly the likes of Bradford, Vale and t'Millers will be after him. Probably Chesterfield and Fleetwood as well.

Whether S&H want to keep him I don't know. I had an inkling the writing was on the wall when we signed KHM

Quoted from Daftlad

Here's the situation with Michael. When he was injured last season and out for two months he wasn't scanned and subsequently has been playing with an ankle problem now for the last 18 months. He insisted on a scan some six weeks ago and it revealed a problem requirers an operation and did eighteen months ago. Its not a serious problem but is meaning he's struggling through games at the minute. He has been offered a new reduced contract but is waying up his options as there has been interest from league clubs. He's happy at Grimsby and is settled in the area but at times this season he hasn't enjoyed his football as much as he should and is concearned at he often see's little of the ball due to current tactics deployed by H&S. He enjoyed his football more under Woodsy mainly because he was given more freedom. He accepts though thats what he's adked to do and gets on with it. To conclude he's got tough choice to make but at the end of the day if your offered more money to play in the league you'd probably take it.

I think this is the most interesting post in the thread, if true.    It immediately calls to mind the issues Adrian Forbes had with his injury.  Coulson always comes across as having a decent attitude and if he's been playing through injury then he must be given credit for that, along with the 18 or whatever assists previously mentioned.  I wouldn't blame him for wanting to go to a league club - not at all - and think he is probably good enough, when fit.  The thing that interests me most is that he's not enjoying his football as much as he was, because he sees very little of the ball.  That very point was made yesterday by John Tondeur during the match commentary.

Anyway, I wish MC well, whatever he decides to do.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Allegedly one of the club's highest earners and therefore over the wage threshold that has been set...apparently. Don't shoot the messenger!

Also firmly believe that there are other better wingers in this league on less money, Mackreth being a good example.

This for me.

Quoted from AndyGTFC

A real shame if he does go but I can't blame him if he's got offers from league clubs.

I still think you can tell that he's not a natural winger but the amount of goals and assists he's got speak for themselves.

Totally agree.
It's a bit of a conundrum for me.
Not sure where he's gonna fit in but still love to keep him.

I'd love to play him as the 1 in a 4-3-1-2 but then that means no wingers. (is that good or bad ?)
If we go more as a passing team we could do that (looks unlikely we would !) but a lot of our goals have come from long ball/set pieces.

I just hope we make up our minds what the strategy is and go for it.

No idea if Daftlads post is true but it sounds quite believable.

[quote=1600]
Totally agree.
It's a bit of a conundrum for me.
Not sure where he's gonna fit in but still love to keep him.

I'd love to play him as the 1 in a 4-3-1-2 but then that means no wingers. (is that good or bad ?)
If we go more as a passing team we could do that (looks unlikely we would !) but a lot of our goals have come from long ball/set pieces.
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Think you've hit the nail on the head there. MC is one of our better quality players so, fair enough, one of the highest earners - but we can't employ him in his best position (do we know where that is, even?) and consequently he's not enjoying his football as much. We shouldn't forget he's still a young player (just turned 25, I think) and has demonstrated a good attitude - both qualities worth holding onto IMO.

Reckon this one's down to the player himself: if he wants to stay (on reduced terms/with other clubs interested) it'll be the right thing for him, and if he doesn't want to stay (on reduced terms/with other clubs interested) that'll be the right thing for him too. Expect him to go but would be chuffed if he stayed.

My reply to your "no wingers - good or bad?" bit would be this: if you're going to play wingers - they have to be good wingers.

Korb khun krup chiang.
Last point - dee mak mak !
And they've got to get the ball more ?  
Sawatdee krup...  

Quoted from 1600

Korb khun krup chiang.
Last point - dee mak mak !
And they've got to get the ball more ?  
Sawatdee krup...  

For those of you who may be thinking 80's has gone barking, this is (partly) Thai language.

Quoted from realityman

this is more fenty cost cutting! he just does not get it and neither do most of you lot. Unless gtfc invest on the pitch it will be the drip drip drip of a slow death. exactly what HAS been happening under this regime. Now you can't argue with that one because it HAS happened and is not just conjecture! Just imagine what might have happened  if the money fenty and parker have put into the club had been spent on team building, it could have meant staying in the league and not losing as much. in fact maybe with incresed support breaking even.   success brings its own rewards. Just ask fleetwood and crawley. the choice is 1. A little bit of investment and the bottle to do it or 2. the keep the club just alive scenario. the old adage of speculate to accumulate springs to mind but you need to be brave to take that road, something that is in short supply here.

Go on then einstein tell us all where is the money coming from.

just wondering if this is a bit of a 'game' being played by the managers. wouldn't surprise me in the least if they haven't already got another winger all ready and waiting for the summer, so this is a way of saying 'bye bye' to coulson. mind you it'd have to be somebody bloody good at this level (mckreeth?) to be as effective as coulson

Also, if Coulson requires surgery on his long-standing injury, presumably that would take place over the Summer? And who would be liable for that - us or the new club (if he's leaving)? And would a new club take him on, given that his injury seems to be well known about?
Hope he gets the injury sorted and stays, he's a class above on his day.

Quoted from wigworld

Also, if Coulson requires surgery on his long-standing injury, presumably that would take place over the Summer? And who would be liable for that - us or the new club (if he's leaving)? And would a new club take him on, given that his injury seems to be well known about?
Hope he gets the injury sorted and stays, he's a class above on his day.

good point

Either way, I hope it works out for the lad and the club, good player and cannot question his commitment in my opinion.

From John Tondeur's Twitter...

"Rob Scott tells @radiohumberside on Sportstalk tonight that Michael Coulson has not been offered reduced terms. #gtfc"

That means he's not been given an increase, or there's no offer been made. Either way, it doesn't tell us much!

It also means poor journalism in the first place.....

sounds like they've offered him a deal that is less cash but is a two year deal. Scott also acknowledges that the ball is still with the club because of the option for an extra year

Sounds like they want him to stay and have offered him less cash but more security in a longer contract...a little like Elding

off mariners player interview

Quoted from Biccys

That means he's not been given an increase, or there's no offer been made. Either way, it doesn't tell us much!

it does ? it tells us hes been offered a contract on the same wage? so its coulsons choice whether he wants to play here anymore? scott said the contract has been offered for about 6 or 7 weeks now

Quoted from TheCurlyMariner12

it does ? it tells us hes been offered a contract on the same wage? so its coulsons choice whether he wants to play here anymore? scott said the contract has been offered for about 6 or 7 weeks now

If they were prepared to pay him the same wage they wouldn't have to offer him anything, as the club has the option to extend the deal to a third year. I think!

Quoted from Abdul19

If they were prepared to pay him the same wage they wouldn't have to offer him anything, as the club has the option to extend the deal to a third year. I think!

That's my understanding too.

The contract was offered 7 weeks ago and is less than his current one. He offered to meet the club half way, they refused! If rob Scott is saying otherwise he's lying. If its the same deal then they wouldn't have to offer it the club could just tell him there extending his deal, end of! I can assure you this is fact.

John Tondeur has tweeted "has been offered 2 year contract on a smaller monthly wage".

The club should not be conducting this sort of business in public, just creates mistrust and bad feeling. Hope MC stays as he's got plenty of quality, but his contract Is none of my business.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

The club should not be conducting this sort of business in public, just creates mistrust and bad feeling. Hope MC stays as he's got plenty of quality, but his contract Is none of my business.

Exactly. As long as he stays and carries on working for the team by means of assists and goals I'll be a happy mariner.

I couldn't care less about his or another's players wages - as long as they don't break the wage structure and we are challenging.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

The club should not be conducting this sort of business in public, just creates mistrust and bad feeling. Hope MC stays as he's got plenty of quality, but his contract Is none of my business.

Unfortunately this is the way Fenty has always run GTFC.
This sort of thing should be kept behind closed door until its settled.

If we are serious about promotion find the money to pay him Fenty because we a can’t afford to let players like Coulson go.
  

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

The club should not be conducting this sort of business in public, just creates mistrust and bad feeling. Hope MC stays as he's got plenty of quality, but his contract Is none of my business.

Works both ways though, doesn't it? I'm sure the media have received information from Coulson (or his agent) which is why these questions are now being asked. Unfortunately, it's the way things are done these days.

I'd be happy for Coulson to stay but think he'll probably find himself a League Two club. He's only young so perhaps the offer of a two year contract at a lower wage won't be as appealing as it was for Elding who is closer to the end of his career.

Quoted from TAGG

Unfortunately this is the way Fenty has always run GTFC.
This sort of thing should be kept behind closed door until its settled.

If we are serious about promotion find the money to pay him Fenty because we a can’t afford to let players like Coulson go.   

Fenty can't win either way, there is one thread calling him for putting the club in debt and this one telling him to break the bank to get better players. make your bloody minds up  

Maybe it's easier to just say nothing but on the other hand I don't see what the big issue is.

Isn't Elding on reduced terms ?
Hardly a big secret is it ?

May be wrong but just seems to people are so worried about a possible negative image/scenario occurring that they run the risk of looking overly worried about it and giving off bad vibes anyway ?

Has he been offered reduced terms ? Yes.
So the budget might be cut, well so frigging what ?...  
Does that mean there won't be new players coming in and people can't be positive about it to boost season ticket sales ? No !
Does it mean we can't do better anyway ? No.

Maybe I'm missing the point but concerned we're getting bogged down with triviality.

For me, all this repetitive and negative cr*p does is bore me to tears and put me another step closer to giving it all up as a bad job further down the line...
Would be nice to see a few laughs and happy faces at the club for a change !  
Send eveyone a mini break ffs and inject some feel-good factor into things....
Yes no one likes a smart@rse but no-one wants tales of constant misery either !  

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RH Telford preview.

Sounds like Scott is going out of his way to be awkward. He can be a right sharp object sometimes.

Cheers dav.
A lot clearer than Mariners Player !  

Either way if he does leave a team will have to pay for him as we have the option to extend his contract for a season

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Either way if he does leave a team will have to pay for him as we have the option to extend his contract for a season

only if we offer him the same terms, which by the sounds of it we don't want too, and now us offering him the same terms means he will probably accept and stay (as another team will be happy with him on a free but not for a fee) and then the managers/Fenty have given in to him and not reduced the wage budget.

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RH Telford preview.

he's a hard barsteward ain't he? you wouldn't want to pish him off! would love to see a touchline bust up between him and evans/rayner!

Think Scott is being Slightly economic with the truth. Coulson has been offered a two year contract at a weekly rate less than he gets now (same as Elding signed). Because its a two year contract, that will see him earn more(over 2 years) than the one year he has left,  on more money/week-

Example say Coulson earns £1000/ week. Next year he will earn 52x£1000 = £52,000

Example Offer 2year deal on £800/week =52x£800=£41,600 /year x 2years =£83,200 which Scott says is not REDUCED terms.

Scott also says they have an option on coulson which is a message to other clubs, if you want him BUY him.

Been reading your thoughts on Coulson - Why cant he be your box-box midfielder you are all crying out for. You all admit his defensive play has improved, his crossing can be hit or miss, playing down the middle he wont be required to cross from wide. Just a thought?

There seems to be some confusion as to whether Coulson has been offered reduced terms or not.

My understanding is that he has been offered an extended contract on less money per week,which technically isn't reduced terms but is less in terms of wages.

If he was tearing up trees and there as a queue of clubs watching him,then we would have hung onto him any way possible,which would have meant activating his one year option,which would have to have been on the same money.

We chose to offer him a 2 year deal on reduced wages,so the ball is now in his court.

I personally feel we can do better. 18 assists isn't that brilliant for a winger who should be throwing over hundreds of crosses in a season.Most of his assists have come from corners and seeing as we have had one of the highest number of corners gained in the league,it isn't that impressive. We have plenty of goals in our back line if the delivery is right.

He has eight league goals, which is commendable but they mostly came in our good run against the bottom half sides. He has 2 against the sides above us, against York and Mansfield, both games ended in defeat.

I know there are those that will disagree with me and maybe think i am being a bit harsh on him, but football is a ruthless business and if you want to win leagues, you have to have better players and a better winning mentality than your opponents. There has been plenty of games this season that we should have won but came away with a draw. Winning sides somehow manage to find that winning goal, or defend that lead against all costs. We have fallen short in that department this season and i think we need a few more canny players.

If he does stay, then fair enough, but i feel he will have to improve a bit because there are better wide players than him in this league, mostly with sides that have done better than us.

EDIT: Bostonfan beat me to it and explained it better than me.

Coulson has always claims he'd prefer to play as a striker but has actually spent most of his career on the wing. I've not seen anything which indicates he's strong or quick enough to play as a central striker though he does have a decent shot.

Similarly, I've not seen anything to indicate he could do a job as a central midfielder, either. I think central midfield is a specialised role and few players are versatile enough to play there as well as other positions. Heck, just look how rubbish some of our bespoke central midfielders have been in recent years!

I think Coulson could play just behind a front two but only in an attacking role.

I think you will find that he has been offered substantially less on a weekly basis than he is on now and is certainly looking to leave.

Was it Michael Coulson who wasn't getting a game as a striker and went and told Neil Woods that he could also play on the wing?  I remember one of the players doing that, but we've had so many, I've lost track.  If it was Coulo, looks as if he made a rod for his own back, as I've rarely seen him play anywhere except on the wing.