vuvuzela

Quoted from Alfie

Crikey. Slight overreaction, me thinks.

This World Crap is over. I stopped watching after 3 days and spend all the time I would have spent watching games trying to spread the word and get this thing banned.

Quoted from LH

English fans don't need drums and horns to make an 'atmosphere'.

Don't tell Gilly  

Quoted from ponnyfan

Don't tell Gilly  

I should have really put more emphasis on the "need". I meant it as it's not a neccesity for English football fans to have instruments to create atmosphere.

However, ours isn't too bad  

I like the vuvuzelas. . . unique atmosphere for a unique world cup.  All these wanting to impose 'our' values on what is a world game smacks of racism!  Grimrob's attempts to pressure multi-national corporations into pressuring 'the africans' harks back to our shameful imperial past (and is pretty lame as well!)

enjoy the world cup. . . you racist, killjoy, prawn s'wich eating, match day experiencing, corporate boxing, etc etc. . .

or. . . just picture michael caine saying. . . Vuvuzelas. . . thaaasands of em!!!

Part of the enjoyment of watching football, for me at least, is the atmosphere - how it builds up, rises and falls, the reaction of the crowd.  Take that away and I find it disappointing.  That's not racist, it's being honest.

In a different scenario, if it was the good old USA hosting the world cup and England were playing South Africa, then yeah, I wouldn't complain about vuvuzelas then, as it's the opposition's way of supporting their team.  Fair enough.  If, however, the Americans decided to 'celebrate their culture' by broadcasting deafening advertisements for the full ninety minutes, so drowning out the noise of the vuvuzelas and any other support there might be, then I'd be pretty annoyed about that, too, and would say so.

I suppose it's the 'supporting one's team' that is important to me.  In the world cup, fans usually get the chance to do that on the international stage.  They don't seem to be getting much opportunity so far in this world cup.

If I wasn't happy about something and kept quiet about it, solely because the perpetrators were African, then that, to me, would be racist.

Quoted from 1054

I like the vuvuzelas. . . unique atmosphere for a unique world cup.  All these wanting to impose 'our' values on what is a world game smacks of racism!  Grimrob's attempts to pressure multi-national corporations into pressuring 'the africans' harks back to our shameful imperial past (and is pretty lame as well!)

enjoy the world cup. . . you racist, killjoy, prawn s'wich eating, match day experiencing, corporate boxing, etc etc. . .

or. . . just picture michael caine saying. . . Vuvuzelas. . . thaaasands of em!!!

Wondered how long before the looney left hi-jacked this thread and turned it into the usual racist load of bollox.  The fact is that the majority of people that don't like the vuvuzela's are hacked off because of the constant noise they make. NOT BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OF THE PERSON BLOWING THEM. IMHO, any game involving a team whose fans usualy use vuvuzela's are more than welcome to take and use them.  Of course they are.  But for all the neutrals taking them to other games and imposing a wall of noise, well for me (and many many others) it spoils it.  

The outrage bus will be leaving shortley.  All aboard, ding ding.

Aint bothered me
UTMM

Quoted from 1054

I like the vuvuzelas. . . unique atmosphere for a unique world cup.  All these wanting to impose 'our' values on what is a world game smacks of racism!  Grimrob's attempts to pressure multi-national corporations into pressuring 'the africans' harks back to our shameful imperial past (and is pretty lame as well!)

It's not racist at all. It's just one human doing something which is totally ruining something else for millions of other humans. The Africans can do what they want in games involving their own teams, but they have now right to ruin games of other teams.

Yes it's pretty lame but I am unbelievably angry about this. I spent most of the day thinking about it, it just makes me furious on a minute by minute basis. It's difficult to work or concentrate on anything else. I spent years looking forward to this WC and went to most of the qualifying games. Now it is a matter of total indifference who wins because of these horns. They have ruined the tournament and I want people to realise why.

Quoted from GrimRob

They have ruined the tournament and I want people to realise why.

For you. They've ruined the tournament for you.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

For you. They've ruined the tournament for you.

WHS