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Abdul19
June 13, 2010, 1:46pm

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Quoted from Manchester Mariner
To be honest it makes no difference to me although I am finding the people claiming that its ruining their whole world cup experience amusing and a little over the top.


Agreed. Although it's annoying it's not going to make me stop watching.

Although I am tempted at the moment, given the shitness of this game.


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Quoted from biggles9999
In all fairness though the point of moving the World Cup around the countries and continents is partly to give different parts of the world the chance to impose their own national identities on the tournament.

Yes the vuvuzelas are annoying - to us. But if the tournament was held over here then would the Africans/Asians etc find our drumming or bell ringing annoying?





While I agree it may be their culture it isn't mine and it makes my head ache. Nearly everyone I have spoken to has commented on the irritation the noise produces in the ears and the head without any prompting from me and has said they watched the game with the sound down/off. Several didn't bother to watch the half time break at all either, and didn't bother to try and listen to the pundits at the game.

The problem may be that we are just not used to it but we are providing a massive amount of money to SA through TV coverage and if that noise puts a lot of people off from watching then advertisers and sponsors are going to have something to say about it aren't they?


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June 13, 2010, 3:56pm
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So then heres a question for you.

The World Cup is in England and at every game people are taking drums or air horns etc.

Other countries start to moan at the constant noise which is not part of their culture and so turn off. Upsetting the advertisers and sponsors. They in turn start putting pressure on FIFA to ban any form of 'equipment'.

How would you take it?

You cant ban it. Its tough, stop moaning and get on with it. I dont like that Pompey Bell but I dont sit here complaining at the guy all game saying that he is ruining the match for me.
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English fans don't need drums and horns to make an 'atmosphere'.
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Strange, I seem to remember thats what there were a few 'arguments' about on here last season - regarding our new band.
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Quoted from LH
English fans don't need drums and horns to make an 'atmosphere'.


No they don't but so many of them are so thick that they will copy anything anyone else does. If it's new and different it must be good.



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all very well moaning about the drum...but its ONE drum not 15 bloody thousand! Annoying horns, poor standard of football...not great so far but like someone said before...first games are always going to be cagey..at least we've got our 'Hard' game out of the way...if we fail to score 2 or 3 against algeria and slovenia, then we don't deserve to advance any further.
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According to Wikipedia:  

"Vuvuzelas have been controversial. They have been associated with permanent noise-induced hearing loss, cited as a possible safety risk when spectators can't hear evacuation announcements, and potentially spread colds and flu germs on a greater scale than coughing or shouting.

The sound level of the instrument has been measured at 131 dB(A) at the opening of the horn and at 113 dB(A) two metres in front of the opening, both dangerously high levels for unprotected ears.

Origin
This type of plastic horn or trumpet has been used in Mexican stadiums since the 1970s.[citation needed] Originally made out of tin, the vuvuzela became popular in South Africa in the 1990s.

Vuvuzelas have been said to be based on kudu horn instruments and thus rooted in African history, but this is disputed.[16][13] During the last quarter of a match, supporters blow vuvuzelas frantically in an attempt to "kill off" their opponents."






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Think of all the money the chinese are making in their sweat shops producing these things, plus all the other parifinalea, they are bound to be selling them outside our grounds soon, like the Mexican wave its senceless but will catch on
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Quoted from biggles9999


There were vuvuzela's at Wembley and Cardiff?


I can't remember there being many at Wembley but the little atmosphere there could've been at Cardiff was ruined by them. Think it was just horns though not vuvuzela's.


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