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| December 13, 2020, 2:06pm |
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For someone who professes to know something about the care system your ignorance of how it has worked in other areas is astounding. Now you are trying your best to wriggle out of a situation you know to be true by twisting and turning it to include white domestic abuse and semantics over "arranged and "forced". You are stuck now. If I was guilty of bigotry then are you not doing the same in your comment on some white men? Is domestic abuse a part of their ethnic culture?
Perhaps you should have a good look at the Rotherham cases for example and see the full picture of the male dominated culture and the ruling of a community from within. Look at the reports from police officers whose suspicions were downgraded so as not to appear racist. There are all manner of issues there and in Leicester, Rochdale etc. that include abuse within and without the community, Sharia Law, postal vote fixing etc. I would hesitate to say this is always with the collusion of the authorities but rest assured much has been with their knowledge. Excusing it by saying someone else is guilty of something else just does not cut the mustard. Here we have a serious problem on our doorsteps and what are we doing? Arguing the toss over some posers on a football field.
Whole world of diferance between arranged marriage and forced marriage,all you suceed in doing is putting your ignorance on display. |
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| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| December 13, 2020, 6:34pm |
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Whole world of diferance between arranged marriage and forced marriage,all you suceed in doing is putting your ignorance on display.
If that is the sum total of your argument Friskney, I suggest we call it a day. There are more pressing matters on the other board. |
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| ska face |
| December 15, 2020, 11:04am |
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Well, the Home Office have been forced to release their report on the background and makeup of grooming gangs and it doesn’t make good reading for the bigots! https://www.independent.co.uk/.....office-b1774161.htmlUnlucky lads, maybe listen to people like friskneymariner and aldi_01 who know what they’re talking about in future? |
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| Chrisblor |
| December 15, 2020, 11:46am |
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Damn, i'm sure all the entirely rational and not at all prejudiced posters citing Asian Grooming Gangs as their response to any kind of anti-islamophobic protest will now reassess their position to a less overtly racist one.
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| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 15, 2020, 3:22pm |
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Well, the Home Office have been forced to release their report on the background and makeup of grooming gangs and it doesn’t make good reading for the bigots! https://www.independent.co.uk/.....office-b1774161.htmlUnlucky lads, maybe listen to people like friskneymariner and aldi_01 who know what they’re talking about in future?
The photos of that grooming gang in Huddersfield don't look very diverse to me. I don't think anyone has said grooming gangs are exclusively Asian men, as evil extends to all races and ethnicity in some cases, but the reports of the gangs in many of the towns are indeed Asian men. The point remains though, who is taking the knee of behalf of those abused children? |
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| ska face |
| December 15, 2020, 4:11pm |
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People like friskneymariner and aldi are already doing the work that is needed rather than making gestures. The real danger is the continued hollowing out and underfunding of their services, and anyone who continues to support these cuts must share some blame.
Like has been said, some people prefer prevention whilst others like the virtue signalling and willy-waving that comes after the fact when they can point the finger and jump up & down about harsher sentences. These people have no interest in the victims, only satisfying their own white knight mentality.
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| ginnywings |
| December 15, 2020, 8:37pm |
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The photos of that grooming gang in Huddersfield don't look very diverse to me.
I don't think anyone has said grooming gangs are exclusively Asian men, as evil extends to all races and ethnicity in some cases, but the reports of the gangs in many of the towns are indeed Asian men. The point remains though, who is taking the knee of behalf of those abused children?
Perhaps, it's just a case of highlighting the abuse perpetrated by Asian gangs sells more newspapers than if they were white middle aged blokes, who are a major demographic of said newspapers. |
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| barralad |
| December 15, 2020, 8:55pm |
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Whatever the results of a poll, even if nearly half of fans attending are against taking the knee why do it?? Why incur the wrath/ the irritation of nearly half your fan base before we have even kicked off? *
Disclaimer. That does not mean nearly half are racist bigots, it just means they have the good sense to know that kneeling down before every game will do sodomist all for ending racism.
For the same reason as 48% of the voters in this country didn't vote to leave the E.U. They lost winner takes all. It's called democracy. Edit...I have actually heard staunch Remainers quote exactly that argument. They were talking bollox too. |
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| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 16, 2020, 7:15pm |
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For the same reason as 48% of the voters in this country didn't vote to leave the E.U. They lost winner takes all. It's called democracy. Edit...I have actually heard staunch Remainers quote exactly that argument. They were talking bollox too.
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| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| December 17, 2020, 11:49am |
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Well, the Home Office have been forced to release their report on the background and makeup of grooming gangs and it doesn’t make good reading for the bigots! https://www.independent.co.uk/.....office-b1774161.htmlUnlucky lads, maybe listen to people like friskneymariner and aldi_01 who know what they’re talking about in future?
You really should quote properly.  The report says - “Research has found that group-based CSE offenders are most commonly white. Some studies suggest an over-representation of black and Asian offenders . . . However, it is not possible to conclude that this is representative of all group-based CSE offending,” it said. “This is due to issues such as data quality problems, the way the samples were selected in studies, and the potential for bias and inaccuracies in the way that ethnicity data is collected.” To me this does not read like a ringing endorsement for proof, only that evidence was not forthcoming. Personally I doubt if it would ever be possible to collect reliable evidence because of the way data was officially collated in each area and each instance, bearing in mind also the unofficial amendments to data. For an example - https://news.sky.com/story/gro.....igners-warn-12158336 |
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