Support our players taking the knee?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

if you had lived and worked in Rochdale, that would be different.

To start using the competence or otherwise of child protection services is simply a distraction technique. The fact remains that girls were treated as chattel, raped and racially abused.  The original point stands. BLM, a protest about the killing of a US black male, is the subject of a legitimate protest in UK football grounds, but racially aggravated crime committed in the UK against vulnerable white girls is not. I think the man from Mars trying to understand the human race would struggle withe the logic of that.

It is not the inadequacy of the child protection system ,it is the inadequacy of the whole care system.Have you ever pondered as to why young people are so susceptible to grooming gangs.These gangs ensnare young people by giving them attention and gifts,sadly for many this is the first time anybody has lavished any attention on them.There is a whole lost generation out there who local authorities are failing to discharge their duties as corporate parents.

Sadly most people are not aware of how the care system lets young people down.It is a sad fact that very few young people who have been through the care system regard it as a positive experience.

Sadly this situation will never be resolved until there can be a grown up discussion based on truth and objectively without infecting it with their own biased and bigoted agenda.

Quoted from friskneymariner

It is not the inadequacy of the child protection system ,it is the inadequacy of the whole care system.Have you ever pondered as to why young people are so susceptible to grooming gangs.These gangs ensnare young people by giving them attention and gifts,sadly for many this is the first time anybody has lavished any attention on them.There is a whole lost generation out there who local authorities are failing to discharge their duties as corporate parents.

Sadly most people are not aware of how the care system lets young people down.It is a sad fact that very few young people who have been through the care system regard it as a positive experience.

Sadly this situation will never be resolved until there can be a grown up discussion based on truth and objectively without infecting it with their own biased and bigoted agenda.

Its very worrying that someone with your experience in the field seems far more concerned about perceived bigotry than facing the truth that Asian men, mainly of Pakistan origin, are systematically raping and abusing girls. There was a Sky report about it this morning, and the situation is apparently unchanged and they are still doing it in most large towns and cities according to the report. Granted a lot of them have been sent to prison for their heinous crimes, but it seems they are completely undeterred and seem to think they can continue this behaviour knowing most will get away with it.

Whatever problems these children have, whatever authorities have let them down is no excuse for this vile behaviour from the men involved.

It is equally more worrying that your bigotry blinds you to the fact because of the failure of the care system to adequately care for young people there is a reservoir of young people who are susceptible to being groomed by these gangs.
It is a sad fact that these young people perceive they are shown much more care from the people grooming them than from the people there to protect them.That is the reality of the situation and until that situation is recognised any attempts to combat these gangs are doomed to failure.

Quoted from friskneymariner

It is equally more worrying that your bigotry blinds you to the fact because of the failure of the care system to adequately care for young people there is a reservoir of young people who are susceptible to being groomed by these gangs.
It is a sad fact that these young people perceive they are shown much more care from the people grooming them than from the people there to protect them.That is the reality of the situation and until that situation is recognised any attempts to combat these gangs are doomed to failure.

Why on earth do you keep harping on about bigotry? I am not a bigot - these rapists have been tried and convicted in a court of law. This is a fact, not bigotry. Of course I don't know the exact details of the difficulties involved in the care system, but that is not the point I am making.

They, the Asian men, are the ones guilty of systemic and brutal rapes and assaults on girls. Nobody else did it. It doesn't matter what difficulties the girls have had they have rightly been found guilty, but apparently gangs all over the country are still doing it.

Because rather than seeing then prosecuted post facto I am more concerned about preventing it from happening in the first place. Unless you deal with the full circumstance you are only dealing with the symptoms. By then it is too late for a significant number of you people and often the why the authorities treat them compound their trauma.

Quoted from friskneymariner

It is not the inadequacy of the child protection system ,it is the inadequacy of the whole care system.Have you ever pondered as to why young people are so susceptible to grooming gangs.These gangs ensnare young people by giving them attention and gifts,sadly for many this is the first time anybody has lavished any attention on them.There is a whole lost generation out there who local authorities are failing to discharge their duties as corporate parents.

Sadly most people are not aware of how the care system lets young people down.It is a sad fact that very few young people who have been through the care system regard it as a positive experience.

Sadly this situation will never be resolved until there can be a grown up discussion based on truth and objectively without infecting it with their own biased and bigoted agenda.

That may all be true but is it relevant? Those same girls are vulnerable to everyone of every age and origin but not everyone has equally taken advantage of those girls. You know as well as I do that a number of offenders when questioned blamed the lack of moral guidance in white homes. Indeed there have been many instances where the child has not been in care at all in the first instance but in a perfectly normal home from which she was seduced so the care system argument did not apply.

It is this dichotomy of culture that matters. Have you never seen the way some Asian men treat their wives? Even now in 2020 you will see arranged marriages and some wives forced to walk behind their husbands. Yet this goes by the board because of a fear of appearing racist. Those kids suffered and had lives ruined by men whose culture made them think they had a right to do it, and here we are talking about a posing protest that began well but passed its sell-by weeks ago.

No sign of any booing from 2000 Everton fans at Goodison Park.

Quoted from ginnywings

No sign of any booing from 2000 Everton fans at Goodison Park.

Well of course not.

It is not allowed. You run the risk of being given a lifetime ban for a club you have supported forever because you don't agree with a Marxist political movement by booing.

Nobody has ever objected to the genuine attempts to root out racism but of course we now must conform to this pile of c**p or face consequences.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well of course not.

It is not allowed. You run the risk of being given a lifetime ban for a club you have supported forever because you don't agree with a Marxist political movement by booing.

Nobody has ever objected to the genuine attempts to root out racism but of course we now must conform to this pile of c**p or face consequences.

Or conversely they must comply with your views and protest in a way that is acceptable to you,if not they are Marxist.Cannot you see how patronising you are being,surely it is up the people suffering the injustice to define how they protest.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well of course not.

It is not allowed. You run the risk of being given a lifetime ban for a club you have supported forever because you don't agree with a Marxist political movement by booing.

Nobody has ever objected to the genuine attempts to root out racism but of course we now must conform to this pile of c**p or face consequences.

Ner it’s just cause they’re not racist sharp objects.