Mariners Trust AGM

Sometimes i wonder Bigdog if JF felt threatened by the shares \ money handed to the trust by MP.  JF was very quick in persuading the trust to "hand it to me i'll look after it for you"  

Quoted from sonik

Nothing is handed to JF. Believe me. Everyone's support and effort goes into the well being of our football club as a whole. Some on here are up a tree thinking otherwise!

I await a barrage of abuse!

UTM!

No barrage of abuse Sonik and I appreciate you putting your point of view.

I don't want to sound patronising but put yourself in the powerless fan's shoes. Since JF assumed control of the club, we have lost league standing (significantly), remained in an archaic stadium and JF has become an immovable object in respect of an incoming investor. We can go on (and we have) about Mike Parker, Lee Mullen, David Ross, Adam Pearson and anyone else who may want to invest in GTFC but in black & white in the latest accounts, it states that JF is in control of GTFC. Yes, we are all fans, yes, we all want success but, and it's a big but, the last fifteen years are not a ringing endorsement for a further 10/15/20 years of the same.

Quoted from Bigdog

I'm not thick enough to think something fishy is going on.

How long does a £2m loan get you to run a Football League club on your own while precluding all others?

I'm not saying your brother should resign. I'm saying that we need new investment and fresh ideas to progress the club. we are so limited in our present state. Gates are falling, interest is on the wane and believe me you should wish that The Fishy is representative, because everyone on here cares. There's so many fans who we've lost that just don't give a toss anymore..

I'm not so sure as you with that but that's my opinion. The club have searched world wide for fresh and new investment to no avail. Please don't tell me it's because of the benign loans. Hopefully we have a lot to look forward to that may attract a real sugar daddy. Time will tell I suppose.

Keep the faith!

UTM!

Quoted from Fishy_fishtails

Just out of interest Bigdog what fresh ideas would you want to see in order for the club to progress? What do you think needs to change?

Attract inward investment by making the proposition more attractive financially. Become a broader church in the boardroom and not get into financial armwrestles for control. There's a lot of people out there who may have plenty to offer without having £3m+ to gain control. Our PR and marketing is woeful for a start.

The balance sheet and financial actions give off a negative vibe. Fifteen years is a long time to freefall without success, even in the FA Cup. Things are not right and JF should open his arms up and say, ok i need some help here and be prepared to take a downward and sideways step..Still be there but work part of a bigger team and accept he may not get his way all of the time.

We need cash and we need better PR and marketing, better understanding of the fans, a club ethos, do we want to be known as a club that creates a conveyor belt of young talent and gives them game time to blossom, imprint it in our DNA, or one that signs journeymen, not lurching from one style of manager to another, a club that listens to its fans and votes with them but still takes the EFL money anyway, market season tickets better, are we going to be a club that looks after the little things like minimum standards for food and toilets that make BP a bit more bearable, do the right thing and speak out about Stevenage because it's the right thing to do..

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Quoted from MuddyWaters

No barrage of abuse Sonik and I appreciate you putting your point of view.

I don't want to sound patronising but put yourself in the powerless fan's shoes. Since JF assumed control of the club, we have lost league standing (significantly), remained in an archaic stadium and JF has become an immovable object in respect of an incoming investor. We can go on (and we have) about Mike Parker, Lee Mullen, David Ross, Adam Pearson and anyone else who may want to invest in GTFC but in black & white in the latest accounts, it states that JF is in control of GTFC. Yes, we are all fans, yes, we all want success but, and it's a big but, the last fifteen years are not a ringing endorsement for a further 10/15/20 years of the same.

I do OC. I'm the same as other fans with a brother that puts his head above the parapet for what? I know for the good of GTFC and the future generations to come. You and I know he can't really win. We just need our players to do the business on the pitch and all will be good.

UTM!

Well said Sonik

Quoted from sonik

I do OC. I'm the same as other fans with a brother that puts his head above the parapet for what? I know for the good of GTFC and the future generations to come. You and I know he can't really win. We just need our players to do the business on the pitch and all will be good.

UTM!

That's an entirely different story and makes me wonder where we are going. Gates are falling dramatically because of the style of football put before us. I've gone from 'hoping we win' to 'hoping we score'.

From where I am sitting we have appointed a personal friend of JF who appears to be squandering thousands of pounds on players that on the basis of them not being first choice is a complete waste of valuable funds.

It's nights like this that make me want to give up following Town after 45 years..

Now now Bigdog....we need every fan we can muster.  I can appreciate things are rather dull watching town atm......but all we can do as fans is atleast support the players.  Even if you dont agree eith RS appointment.....and even though he signed a few players its not really their fault.  

Im wondering if town are turning into West Ham.....what i mean by that is the fans reaction at games.....Were the players are hiding in their shells.....and rather try a killer pass go for the easy pass instead knowing a strayed pass may result in dissatisfaction from the fans.  

Anyway i hope every one sticks together....after all we've been through much worse.