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MuddyWaters
November 6, 2017, 8:41pm
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I have to be honest, I just don't get it. £30k for a seat on the board knowing that the major shareholder is omnipotent just seems like a waste of your efforts. You've also, through a democratic vote, handed over shares that were given to you and raised a large sum of money that has just been added to the coffers.
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November 6, 2017, 8:51pm

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Nothing is handed to JF. Believe me. Everyone's support and effort goes into the well being of our football club as a whole. Some on here are up a tree thinking otherwise!

I await a barrage of abuse!

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Nothing is handed to JF. Believe me. Everyone's support and effort goes into the well being of our football club as a whole. Some on here are up a tree thinking otherwise!

I await a barrage of abuse!

UTM!


This is not having a go. You've took the time to post in this thread with a bit of an inaccurate ramble. Why not go through and put forward your direct views to direct concerns post by post rather than accusing loyal fans that you should cherish of being up a tree. Really condescending that is. Your attitude sort of proves a lot of veritable views. Come on Sonik, instead of the airy fairy one liners, let's open up the debate..
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November 6, 2017, 9:01pm

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Quoted from sonik
Nothing is handed to JF. Believe me. Everyone's support and effort goes into the well being of our football club as a whole. Some on here are up a tree thinking otherwise!

I await a barrage of abuse!

UTM!


I hope you don't find this abusive but................

Though the Fishy is a minority when I go to BP (possibly less on away trips) I sense a level of dissatisfaction with our lot on and off the field, maybe be due to over expectation maybe not. The Trust do a decent job under difficult circumstances no doubt in and out of the board room but if they have a seat on the board surely they should act as a barometer for supporters feelings/mood and ensure that the rest of the board understand how those who have been so loyal for so long feel.    


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sonik
November 6, 2017, 9:16pm

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This is not having a go. You've took the time to post in this thread with a bit of an inaccurate ramble. Why not go through and put forward your direct views to direct concerns post by post rather than accusing loyal fans that you should cherish of being up a tree. Really condescending that is. Your attitude sort of proves a lot of veritable views. Come on Sonik, instead of the airy fairy one liners, let's open up the debate..


Not condescending at all. I value and appreciate the efforts of people doing the best for our club. All supporters too! Some don't and I see it on here daily. The abuse that John and the board gets for there continued efforts for the best of GTFC is not nice. I believe it's not a fair reflection of the fan base but I may be wrong.

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November 6, 2017, 9:23pm
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Nothing is handed to JF. Believe me. Everyone's support and effort goes into the well being of our football club as a whole. Some on here are up a tree thinking otherwise!

I await a barrage of abuse!

UTM!


With more than £250k from the Trust, £200k in shares, £100k in OP money, £500k in shares by MP, that's more than half the benign loan amount without imparting any influence at all. Yet all are treated with indifference, disdain and taken for granted or ignored on so many occasions.

That's over £1m which aided cashflow. That was handed to him to make running the club a whole lot easier.

Why not convert his loans into shares? Why not try and attract new investors, share the burden and add to the talent pool?

Why only £2k issued in shares last year?
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sonik
November 6, 2017, 9:32pm

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With more than £250k from the Trust, £200k in shares, £100k in OP money, £500k in shares by MP, that's more than half the benign loan amount without imparting any influence at all. Yet all are treated with indifference, disdain and taken for granted or ignored on so many occasions.

That's over £1m which aided cashflow. That was handed to him to make running the club a whole lot easier.

Why not convert his loans into shares? Why not try and attract new investors, share the burden and add to the talent pool?

Why only £2k issued in shares last year?


Lots of questions here that I can't answer in full but if you think something fishy is going on (Pardon the pun) it isn't.

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November 6, 2017, 9:40pm

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I bet the trust has put in more money than the other directors (excluding JF).


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I'm not thick enough to think something fishy is going on.

How long does a £2m loan get you to run a Football League club on your own while precluding all others?

I'm not saying your brother should resign. I'm saying that we need new investment and fresh ideas to progress the club. We are so limited in our present state. Gates are falling, interest is on the wane and believe me you should wish that The Fishy is representative, because everyone on here cares. There's so many fans who we've lost that just don't give a toss anymore..

Fans are crying out for hope not just more of the same.

Anyway i appreciate you can't answer these questions and I appreciate at least limited dialogue.

Just get your brother to have a good think, change his spots and try to be a lot more inclusive for all of our sakes. It's too big a job to do on his own..
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November 6, 2017, 9:44pm

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Just out of interest Bigdog what fresh ideas would you want to see in order for the club to progress? What do you think needs to change?
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