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I think Cod Almighty are being incredibly idealistic. A town centre stadium would be great, but at some point you have to start being pragmatic and accept that the financial, political and legal hurdles on the path to it are too high. Recent Diary and twitter posts from them seem to infer that the independent report is some sort of Fenty / NE Lincs Council whitewash which was always going to recommend Peaks Parkway. I'm no great fan of Fenty but when you start digging in to the 400+ pages it becomes pretty clear why Peaks Parkway is the only feasible option. Cod Almighty seem to believe we're operating in an environment where the club can continue to exist at Blundell Park indefinitely while we spend a decade trying to get a new stadium built at the docks, but that's patently not the case when the club's accounts show we're hemorrhaging money at Blundell Park. Their response to that is there's apparently no evidence that we'll make more money at a new stadium. Seems pretty obvious to me (conference facilities / bigger hospitality facilities / more bars & catering outlets / hiring out 4G pitches etc), but just feels like they want to argue for the sake of it because they won't be able to go have a pint at the Rutland before watching town anymore
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You and Old Codger are absolutely right everyone needs to try to separate Fenty and the stadium in our minds if we stand any chance of being objective. This Fenty dome nonsense you'd have thought he'd of written this report not independent experts.
It's also worth noting that the concept and initial work done in moving from BP was carried out before JF became involved with the club.
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It's also worth noting that the concept and initial work done in moving from BP was carried out before JF became involved with the club.
Absolutely. Just shows how long it's dragged on.
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just feels like they want to argue for the sake of it because they won't be able to go have a pint at the Rutland before watching town anymore
Why won't they?
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Why won't they?
Exactly have a pint there and then get the bus over or cycle (they seem to love the idea of ecosensitive travel) to the Parkway.
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I really don't understand this criticism of Cod Almighty. Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion (although it often feels like they aren't on here) The opposing view, which so many here don't agree with, is posted on their own site, not on here, so why the constant digs?
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I really don't understand this criticism of Cod Almighty. Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion (although it often feels like they aren't on here) The opposing view, which so many here don't agree with, is posted on their own site, not on here, so why the constant digs?
Why does there have to be a 'right' or a 'wrong'? As far as I can see, CA have decided they would like to see a stadium in the town centre - it's not going to happen, NELC and their consultants have decided on PP, now let's move on, get our arses in gear and back the construction of a new stadium and new future for GTFC. Of course, it won't be what everyone wants but ultimately, it's been decided that it's the best way forward. What CA appear to be saying, and I've said before myself, is that they don't want a new stadium to be JF's legacy to the club as a kind of vanity project. So what? What has happened has happened, decisions have been made that haven't worked out, Mr Fenty has admitted as much. We will all have our own view about Mr Fenty's reign at the club - maybe some will see a new stadium as his legacy, others might think of flags, flasks or failure. Whatever we all think, we need to back the stadium and the team, the club's future is more important than its' past.
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Why does there have to be a 'right' or a 'wrong'? As far as I can see, CA have decided they would like to see a stadium in the town centre - it's not going to happen, NELC and their consultants have decided on PP, now let's move on, get our arses in gear and back the construction of a new stadium and new future for GTFC. Of course, it won't be what everyone wants but ultimately, it's been decided that it's the best way forward.
What CA appear to be saying, and I've said before myself, is that they don't want a new stadium to be JF's legacy to the club as a kind of vanity project. So what? What has happened has happened, decisions have been made that haven't worked out, Mr Fenty has admitted as much. We will all have our own view about Mr Fenty's reign at the club - maybe some will see a new stadium as his legacy, others might think of flags, flasks or failure. Whatever we all think, we need to back the stadium and the team, the club's future is more important than its' past.
I don't think there has to be a 'right or wrong' its just that the Fishy posters always think they are right and CA wrong But I still don't see what damage CAs opposition to the PP site can do, its purely their opinion, unless of course they side with the objectors when planning permission, plans etc come up for review or inquiry. I don't think CA have ever failed to back the team but 'back the stadium' - how do you do that - offer your services as a brickie? If everybody agreed on everything neither this site or GO would have much future
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I don't think there has to be a 'right or wrong' its just that the Fishy posters always think they are right and CA wrong
But I still don't see what damage CAs opposition to the PP site can do, its purely their opinion, unless of course they side with the objectors when planning permission, plans etc come up for review or inquiry.
I don't think CA have ever failed to back the team but 'back the stadium' - how do you do that - offer your services as a brickie?
If everybody agreed on everything neither this site or GO would have much future
If you want to! Seriously though, whatever can be done, needs to be done - most importantly, selling the idea to people who aren't sure. I had a conversation with a sceptic last week regarding the merits of an in-town site, he was convinced that would cause less traffic issues as more would travel by train! Finally, he accepted that his scepticism was driven by where he lived rather than anything else.
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