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One thing I couldn't see explained anywhere in the report was why we have to have everything co-located. e.g the five training pitches. Obviously it's ideal to have them close by but not essential.
The other thing is the enabling development. Couldn't this be done in one location and the ground in another?
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I am totally in favour of a new stadium but at the right location. This one isnt it
Is that an opinion? Is it because its location will affect you? Because it certainly isn't a fact. |
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Almost 100% of the population of NE Lincs lives within three miles of the proposed site. If designed properly, there's no reason why a good chunk of the supporters shouldn't arrive by public transport or under their own steam.
As for noise, I live 800 yards from the Olympic stadium and on Sunday when West Ham played their first home game of the season, I could barely hear a thing. That was with 50,000 people. People in Grimsby who think 5-10,000 are somehow going to destroy civilisation or wake up the dead at the cemetery, are frankly living on another planet.
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Folks
I am sorry, but this is not a perfect world.
You have the choice..... wait for the perfect choice at Great Coates....... or accept what's on offer.
If you are in need of a heart transplant to survive, you accept what's on offer NOW!
I'm not sure Great Coates was ever the perfect choice, out of town is pants. The idea that the club needs a new stadium immediately or it will cease to exist is a nonsense. |
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I'm not sure Great Coates was ever the perfect choice, out of town is pants.
The idea that the club needs a new stadium immediately or it will cease to exist is a nonsense.
How long do you want us to wait? Another 23 years? Wait till Scunny get their 3rd new stadium? |
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It is about time this point was raised. Do you know exactly what the rules are? Obviously J.F. cannot vote but I'm not sure there are that many councillors these days who are regular supporters-unlike the times of Bovill and co. Ray Oxby aside I cannot think of too many Labour councillors and I'm aware of only one Tory who is/are regular supporters/season ticket holders
I've been presuming that each party will employ a whip system having decided amongst themselves what their party's stance should be.
If that were the case I'd expect UKIP and the Lib Dems to vote against and Labour and the Tories, who I believe have a pact to vote for.
I doubt greatly that there will be a free vote if such a thing exists at this level.
The other thing that interests me is exactly what the vote will be about. It's not a planning meeting. As far as I'm aware it is about allowing the project to move on to the planning stage having established Peaks Parkway as the intended site.
I might be wrong, but I was under the impression the council generally voted for the recommendations of the planning committee. If they go against the planning committee, then they are left open to appeals and they generally lose. Like lose nearly every single time. It isn't the councillors you have to convince, its the planning committee and they base their case on facts. |
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One thing I couldn't see explained anywhere in the report was why we have to have everything co-located. e.g the five training pitches. Obviously it's ideal to have them close by but not essential.
The other thing is the enabling development. Couldn't this be done in one location and the ground in another?
Probably one of the most interesting points I've read. I wonder whether it has ever been considered. You can build the stadium there if the enabling development takes place in another area or areas in the Borough that are in urgent need of regeneration. I guess the retail price of housing wouldn't be as high on a non-greenfield site, therefore reducing the attractiveness to potential developers. |
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How long do you want us to wait? Another 23 years? Wait till Scunny get their 3rd new stadium?
I'd love us to have a new ground, I'd just like us to have one that is not shite. Any build that sees us with missing sides of a ground for up to 8 years should be a definite no. |
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I'd love us to have a new ground, I'd just like us to have one that is not shite. Any build that sees us with missing sides of a ground for up to 8 years should be a definite no.
Imagine if after all this time we get a brand new stadium that we... all detest because it has been done on the cheap or in a half hearted way. We either get a beautifully designed, bang up to date stadium that will be a credit to the generations of fans and indeed players that will use it or not bother. We will only have one chance at the new stadium which will last for decades so we need to get it as near perfect as we can. Something very similar to the Rotherham stadium should be the minimum to aim at I reckon. |
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One thing I couldn't see explained anywhere in the report was why we have to have everything co-located. e.g the five training pitches. Obviously it's ideal to have them close by but not essential.
The other thing is the enabling development. Couldn't this be done in one location and the ground in another?
Your point is the sort of thing that is so obvious, I wonder if it has been considered or overlooked or discounted? In that scenario the space for the stadium alone would perhaps bring other sites into consideration previously declined due to lack of acreage. I suppose the experts involved must have thought of things like this. |
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