We're out of the EU!

Quoted from James77

True, but the EU has helped to accelerate this shift

Quoted from RoboCod

Or maybe listening to the pro-Exit independent experts and voting with your instinct? There were TWO sides to this, in a Democratic vote.

You have no idea how things will go, what new initiatives can be explored, you just assume you are on the correct side and that a 100% certain rosy future has been denied you and you lash out at anyone who voted the opposite way.
It's a shame the same effort wasn't exerted by disgruntled voters when this rotten Government where elected even after we'd had over 4 years to see how awful they were.

Quoted from James77

True, but the EU has helped to accelerate this shift

Quoted from RoboCod

Or maybe listening to the pro-Exit independent experts and voting with your instinct? There were TWO sides to this, in a Democratic vote.

You have no idea how things will go, what new initiatives can be explored, you just assume you are on the correct side and that a 100% certain rosy future has been denied you and you lash out at anyone who voted the opposite way.
It's a shame the same effort wasn't exerted by disgruntled voters when this rotten Government where elected even after we'd had over 4 years to see how awful they were.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Boris went to Eton so you could say he is well educated and knows what he is talking about,

The trouble with being young is you do not know first hand how great this country is,

You said we had everything when we were young ,well that's a laugh,

We got what we worked for and did not have mobile phones, computers and in the early days an inside toilet,

The country had money because we did not give it away to the EU,

When the European Market started it was just for trade and that is why we joined,

BUT

They would  not let us in for years turning us down time and time again,

You have nothing to worry about if you have faith in our GREAT country,

Also you said  it will not be effecting us old ones, well I do have children, grandchildren and even great grandchildren,

I voted to leave because I honestly thought it would be better for them.

Quoted from bluerose13x

Just because you didn't get the result you wanted doesn't mean you should just claim the majority of the people that voted are suffering from  xenophobia. I read your kneejerk comments as saying that everyone who voted to Leave is a xenophobe.  I find that claim insulting. I know this result has prob shocked, surprised and prob even scared you. Take a deep breath give it a few days for the news to sink in and for the dust to settle, then come back rational and calm.

Quoted from Hagrid

Not at all, but in this instance the ones who will suffer most, voted for exactly the opposite. How can that be seen as fair? We have been sold down the river well and truly by older generations who havent given a second thought to the consequences of the decision they've been brainwashed into voting for

Quoted from mariner91

Oh well if you say it's going to be alright, despite the overwhelming predictions from experts that it won't be, with no evidence of your own that it will be and no response to the myriad of problems we're going to face which have been articulately put across by more knowledgeable posters on here then that's fine then.

Hagrid was right. The older generation, such as yourself Pete, and I'm not meaning to pick entirely on you but you're the one on this thread who has made a comment which sums it up, have shafted my generation. Your (generations)belief that it will be alright despite the predictions by independent experts that it won't be is so infuriating. It encapsulates the fact that our population is leaning towards an anti-intellectual consensus summed up by Gove when he said we're "fed up of listening to experts". Well if we're not going to listen to the experts then who the fuck are we meant to listen to? How stupid must we look to the rest of the world?! From their neutral, objective stance they've seen us vote against what is commonly thought to be the best way forward which, unfortunately for them, will also impact their economies to some degree.

Your generation had cheap housing, free education, social mobility, an economy on the up and the ability to manufacture things. We've got none of that. We must be the first generation in history that is significantly worse off than the generation that left before. I hope you're all proud. And why have you sold us down the river? Because, and I quote "you can't walk 50 yards in the town without hearing a foreign language", you said that in the discussion further on the other forum. Well bra-fucking-vo, we're all very grateful that your inwards looking, xenophobic attitude came before our future prosperity. The worst thing about the over 65s clinching the Leave win is that you won't even be around to face the consequences for too long and you're all retired so won't have to suffer the hardships it's going to bring as much. Your generation got wealthy off the back of the EU. Before joining our economy was the slowest growing out of the G7 countries, it grew the quickest once we were a member. But that is something you've all denied our generation now.

Both sides in this referendum have been utterly awful. But the amount of lies, fear mongering and xenophobia from the Leave campaign has been disgusting. Even today, I have had people argue with me that we'll have £350 million a week to spend now despite the fact that many independents have shown this to be nowhere near the case. They plastered it on their bus for fuck sake and kept it even when they proved to be liars.

This referendum should have never have taken place. An issue as complex and emotive as this should have been made by the people who are elected to understand the impact a decision could have and are there to make the important decisions for us. It is extremely telling that one of the biggest differences between Remain and Leave voters is level of education and I'm sorry to say it, but that is a downside to democracy; the stupid get as much say as the intelligent. I think it was John Stuart Mill who suggested that the higher educated you are the more weight your vote should carry and certainly with something like this, where a lot of people seem to have literally no clue about the ramifications, it should have been that way.

I saw a post doing the round on social media and it struck a chord because it's very true:
"A quick note on the first three tragedies. Firstly, it was the working classes who voted for us to leave because they were economically disregarded and it is they who will suffer most in the short term from the dearth of jobs and investment. They have merely swapped one distant and unreachable elite for another one.
Secondly, the younger generation has lost the right live and work in 27 other countries. We will never know the full extent of the lost opportunities, friendships, marriages and experiences we will be denied. Freedom of movement was taken away by our parents, uncles and grandparents in a parting blow to a generation that was already drowning in the debt of our predecessors.
Thirdly and perhaps most signifcantly, we now live in a post-factual democracy. When the facts met the myths they were as useless as bullets bouncing off the bodies of aliens in a HG Wells novel. When Michael Gove said "the British people are sick of experts" he was right. But can anybody tell me the last time a prevailing culture of anti-intellectualism has lead to anything other than bigotry?"

A great and pertinent post from someone who, like myself, will now suffer thanks to other generations. I am fortunate in that the qualification I'm studying for will still enable me to work in many other countries relatively easily should I choose to. The majority are not so lucky.

Scotland will leave now and the UK will break up. That will further impact the economy and be a real ballache to sort out, not to mention expensive. A dark, dark day in our history.

Quoted from Neilo83

Why are you just blaming the older generation, there's plenty of young people that have voted leave aswell, and don't u think for a second that the older (more experienced) generation have done what they've done for the sake of there children/grandchildren? I know i have, i'm 33 and i voted out for the sake of my 11 year old boy and my 5 year old girl, i definitely think they will have a better future now we're out of the eu... So please get off your angry high horse..