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Tommy
November 20, 2017, 1:57pm
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Well if he is kept on say in 3-4 games time if the results continue in the same vein it makes a difference cos it means we can`t or wont pay him up.


Yeah I get that and probably agree. All my point is, is that us as supporters knowing what contract he is on actually makes no difference to how the board/JF manage the situation.


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Yeah I get that and probably agree. All my point is, is that us as supporters knowing what contract he is on actually makes no difference to how the board/JF manage the situation.


Correct and bored though I am with the fayre on offer sadly I don`t think RS is as near to the trapdoor as many seem to think,but I have been wrong before and I live in hope
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It may or may not be important about the length of slades contract but as paying fans I think we are entitled to know how long the manager of our football club is appointed for. It was asked when he was appointed and we didn't get an answer. Why the secrecy?


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Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner
It may or may not be important about the length of slades contract but as paying fans I think we are entitled to know how long the manager of our football club is appointed for. It was asked when he was appointed and we didn't get an answer. Why the secrecy?


I'm guessing the fans wouldn't be happy with the terms, especially given his history and the fact a lot didn't want him back anyway. The irony being that we have probably more than given him what he wanted at the end of his last tenure to stay here.

So basically, JF knew he was opening a can of worms bringing him back, but didn't want to take the lid off completely.
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Bax
Sorry to be a pain but what do we get for the money that is paid by the Trust per year because if the fans get no info from Board level that effects club and fans then whats the point of having a seat at the top table.
Slades wages and length of contact effects the club and fans as does Stevenage come to that.
You say to Pete "We are here to act as a liaison between fans/members and the club" I cant see Mr Fenty reciprocating that in any way.

Im not getting onto you, I wouldn't want to sit across the table from Fenty trying to get the best for the fans.


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Why? The concept of a Football Club Trust is, in my view, to represent the fans and give the fans a more powerful voice by way of being a collective rather than a lone voice.

The Trust should be trying to ensure the club shows good governance although the club is totally under the control of one man which makes life difficult



The Trust is about more than just acting as 'liaison between fans/members and the club'. If that's all it is, we're in a hopeless situation.

I'm all for having a Trust. Have been since day one. I'm an absolute believer in them. But if the height of the ambition is to 'liaise', especially given recent history, it's time to close the book.


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The Trust is about more than just acting as 'liaison between fans/members and the club'. If that's all it is, we're in a hopeless situation.

I'm all for having a Trust. Have been since day one. I'm an absolute believer in them. But if the height of the ambition is to 'liaise', especially given recent history, it's time to close the book.


Who said that?

Totally agree that the ambition should be much higher. As stated, IMO the Trust should be about holding the club to account, to ensure we still have a club  and that JF is not allowed to further strengthen his position by simply managing his way, which has hardly proven to be a success.
Time to try something different in my view BUT not at the cost of liquidation or administration
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Bottom line is that the Club/board/major shareholder want to keep the fans at arm's length (or further). Only once has JF been at the mercy of the fans/Trust members and we know what happened then.

It saddens me that all the hard work put in by the Trust doesn't allow them to have a greater say or forge a better dynamic between the fans and the club's hierarchy.
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Quoted from Cloudy


Who said that?

Totally agree that the ambition should be much higher. As stated, IMO the Trust should be about holding the club to account, to ensure we still have a club  and that JF is not allowed to further strengthen his position by simply managing his way, which has hardly proven to be a success.
Time to try something different in my view BUT not at the cost of liquidation or administration


Sadly I don't think the Trust has the balls and is not prepared to go into bat for the fans and take Fenty on. Shame as they are the only ones in a position to do so albeit through a less than powerful seat on the board. I feel they are constantly on the fence and scared stiff of upsetting Fenty so if they are going to fall either way it will be on his side. Toothless.



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Quoted from bax
Pete - why so aggressive?

As I explained the Trust isn’t there to get involved in staff contracts. I am sure the board members know but again it’s not in my gift to ask them about the private details of peoples contracts.

I am sure if someone asks the question at the fans forum you’ll get the correct answer.


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