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louth_in_the_south
January 30, 2024, 3:39pm

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Would he? The owners wanted him to play more aesthetically pleasing football.


As in losing 6-1 at home ?


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January 30, 2024, 4:53pm
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Great post btw .

I agree something is wrong behind the scenes for PH to intercourse up so bad in a window . A relegated GK and Defender was never the best place to build a team from . Eisa is lazy and Gnoua and Ainley ( GWS) seemed like panick additions . I don’t think there is much money available for the team and I also think the owners won’t be devastated if we go down ?


Really!  That bit at the end has to be the most stupidest few words ever posted on The Fishy.

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Really!  That bit at the end has to be the most stupidest few words ever posted on The Fishy.



Not sure about that - there's strong competition.
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Not sure about that - there's strong competition.


Yeah come on . We all remember the COVID thread
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Not sure about that - there's strong competition.


How about I would like Scunthorpe to be promoted this season?
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Exactly my point, DA deserves criticism for his lack of flexibility in approach but this squad is poor and Paul Hurst has had a nightmare. I think PH is a good manager, on this occasion he screwed up badly  in recruitment and DA has to find a way to keep us up. He needs to be pragmatic as we have been pitiful at home in recent weeks


Continue to disagree with this viewpoint. The squad last year finished 11th and an FA Cup Quarter Final. Name any player that was released from that squad that is better than what we brought in.

I don't believe the squad is as poor as many would have you believe. I've adjusted my view in that it perhaps isn't the play-off capable squad we had optimism for at the start of the season but I don't see it as a poor one.

It was hard not to argue against PH moving on, performances at the start of the season I thought were good, albeit we couldn't get the results and attacking elements of our game were lacking on a consistent basis. Despite that we have 3 strikers and a winger who have all scored more than Taylor and Orsi combined all season (a nudge to the recruitment).

Even as a staunch PH supporter it was hard to argue for his continuance based on results, but I think at the moment we're seeing that even though results were hard, the players were with him. There comes a point where you can't keep backing someone when there's no evidence to suggest your fortunes will change but this is the other side of the coin when you bring a new manager in.

It's all a matter of faith and even though the evidence wasn't there I don't believe we'd have gone down under PH. I'm not saying I think DA will take us down either, but if the rumours of a disillusioned squad with arguments and rifts developing then it doesn't paint an optimistic picture.

Issue for me is simple, individual error and players not being used an in effective system that compliments them. With PH, even if you didn't like the football, you knew what it was, you knew it was pragmatic and balanced. I'm not sure what DA is doing at the minute. We've heard how he wants us to play but I'm not seeing any progression, with the MK Dons and Salford game being the exceptions which I thought were excellent performances.

I do find it ironic that for all the criticism PH received there are certain quarters who think we need that particular style to tighten us up and grind out some results.

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Continue to disagree with this viewpoint. The squad last year finished 11th and an FA Cup Quarter Final. Name any player that was released from that squad that is better than what we brought in.

I don't believe the squad is as poor as many would have you believe. I've adjusted my view in that it perhaps isn't the play-off capable squad we had optimism for at the start of the season but I don't see it as a poor one.

It was hard not to argue against PH moving on, performances at the start of the season I thought were good, albeit we couldn't get the results and attacking elements of our game were lacking on a consistent basis. Despite that we have 3 strikers and a winger who have all scored more than Taylor and Orsi combined all season (a nudge to the recruitment).

Even as a staunch PH supporter it was hard to argue for his continuance based on results, but I think at the moment we're seeing that even though results were hard, the players were with him. There comes a point where you can't keep backing someone when there's no evidence to suggest your fortunes will change but this is the other side of the coin when you bring a new manager in.

It's all a matter of faith and even though the evidence wasn't there I don't believe we'd have gone down under PH. I'm not saying I think DA will take us down either, but if the rumours of a disillusioned squad with arguments and rifts developing then it doesn't paint an optimistic picture.

Issue for me is simple, individual error and players not being used an in effective system that compliments them. With PH, even if you didn't like the football, you knew what it was, you knew it was pragmatic and balanced. I'm not sure what DA is doing at the minute. We've heard how he wants us to play but I'm not seeing any progression, with the MK Dons and Salford game being the exceptions which I thought were excellent performances.

I do find it ironic that for all the criticism PH received there are certain quarters who think we need that particular style to tighten us up and grind out some results.



We must be watching different games because barring Saturday every game i've seen what we are trying to do. Under Hurst I had 0 idea what the game plan was in many of the games and the football was terrible on top of it.
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Continue to disagree with this viewpoint. The squad last year finished 11th and an FA Cup Quarter Final. Name any player that was released from that squad that is better than what we brought in.

I don't believe the squad is as poor as many would have you believe. I've adjusted my view in that it perhaps isn't the play-off capable squad we had optimism for at the start of the season but I don't see it as a poor one.

It was hard not to argue against PH moving on, performances at the start of the season I thought were good, albeit we couldn't get the results and attacking elements of our game were lacking on a consistent basis. Despite that we have 3 strikers and a winger who have all scored more than Taylor and Orsi combined all season (a nudge to the recruitment).

Even as a staunch PH supporter it was hard to argue for his continuance based on results, but I think at the moment we're seeing that even though results were hard, the players were with him. There comes a point where you can't keep backing someone when there's no evidence to suggest your fortunes will change but this is the other side of the coin when you bring a new manager in.

It's all a matter of faith and even though the evidence wasn't there I don't believe we'd have gone down under PH. I'm not saying I think DA will take us down either, but if the rumours of a disillusioned squad with arguments and rifts developing then it doesn't paint an optimistic picture.

Issue for me is simple, individual error and players not being used an in effective system that compliments them. With PH, even if you didn't like the football, you knew what it was, you knew it was pragmatic and balanced. I'm not sure what DA is doing at the minute. We've heard how he wants us to play but I'm not seeing any progression, with the MK Dons and Salford game being the exceptions which I thought were excellent performances.

I do find it ironic that for all the criticism PH received there are certain quarters who think we need that particular style to tighten us up and grind out some results.



That's very harsh on Artell and very soft on Hurst.

We had no discernable style with the latter day Hurst and apart from Saturday we can all see what Artell is trying to do.
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Alex hunt off to Carlisle apparently. Don’t know how true this rumour is though.


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Really?  You seem to be heavily ITK, perhaps you could tell us who we are going to sign before the end of the window too?



Son in law, is ex professional footballer, who still plays locally, knows all the lads, hence why I get titbits from the current squad, cant help you with any transfer incomings.

I will say, most things I but on here will be a lot closer to the mark than your conjecture.
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