PAUL HURST

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’m no Fenty apologist but there has to come a time when we stop harking back to the past. Yes, he left us deep in the excrement but we’ve had a successful promotion, a lucrative cup run and substantial season ticket sales since he left.

Agreed. The day the custodian of the day stops paying for work that should have been done between 2004 and 2021 I will move the blame elsewhere.

Quoted from rancido

But the point is that a decision taken today can have repercussions many years later. Who would have thought , at the time, that the UK declaring war on Germany over it's invasion of Poland would change the political climate of Europe to date with it's effects still being felt today, especially in the Balkans.

I get all of that but berating Fenty isn’t going to change anything. I had multiple run ins with him and his brother on private messaging and disliked him with a passion but he’s thankfully gone but we’ve got to get on with it.

Holloway’s Covid season was a disaster. Hurst didn’t really stop the rot when he came in . The Stevenage game at home summed the club up when we got a last minute equaliser , then they went straight down the other end and scored. I knew we were doomed as soon as that goal went in . Tbh im still nervous about the next couple of years .

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I get all of that but berating Fenty isn’t going to change anything. I had multiple run ins with him and his brother on private messaging and disliked him with a passion but he’s thankfully gone but we’ve got to get on with it.

I totally agree but we still have to never forget the damage he did to the club. You ignore history at your peril to help ensure you don't make the same mistakes again.

Quoted from rancido

I totally agree but we still have to never forget the damage he did to the club. You ignore history at your peril to help ensure you don't make the same mistakes again.

I’ll never forget it, don’t worry, but I’m not sure how Jason and Andrew are going to balance sustainability and being competitive in the future. I sometimes wonder if the promotion and the cup run have created an unrealistic sense of expectation.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’ll never forget it, don’t worry, but I’m not sure how Jason and Andrew are going to balance sustainability and being competitive in the future. I sometimes wonder if the promotion and the cup run have created an unrealistic sense of expectation.

If anyone can then I'm sure with their experience and business acumen then they can.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’ll never forget it, don’t worry, but I’m not sure how Jason and Andrew are going to balance sustainability and being competitive in the future. I sometimes wonder if the promotion and the cup run have created an unrealistic sense of expectation.

Not sure hoping to be pushing for a L2 playoff place should be considered an unrealistic expectation!!

We aren’t the wealthiest club by any means but many clubs with smaller crowds and less money have achieved promotion or a regular top half finish. Christ Fatty Evan’s took basket case Stevenage from relegation, avoided on technicality, to promotion almost instantly.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’ll never forget it, don’t worry, but I’m not sure how Jason and Andrew are going to balance sustainability and being competitive in the future. I sometimes wonder if the promotion and the cup run have created an unrealistic sense of expectation.

It will be impossible if they want to go anywhere over lower mid table in League 1 you would have thought . As you see with Lincoln, Bristol rovers etc you lose 2 to 3 million quid just to be higher to mid table .

People point at Luton but they made big losses to get to the Prem , even Rotherham who are as close to a yo yo club you can get between Champ & League 1 make big losses .

If relegation fodder in league 1 or average league 2 club is the ambition then it might be possible to 'keep it sustainable ' Artell did it at Crewe tbf with trading quality younger players  , Cheltenham & Burton seem prudent and manage to stay in league 1 .

I think the future will be brighter but whether thats in line with somes expectation (maybe even Stockwoods of 'going right through ' as he puts it ) i'm not sure - I would be happy with a few years top 10 in league 2 while trying to sort the infrastructure out , I'm not sure many would be happy with that but who knows .

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’ll never forget it, don’t worry, but I’m not sure how Jason and Andrew are going to balance sustainability and being competitive in the future. I sometimes wonder if the promotion and the cup run have created an unrealistic sense of expectation.

I think the promotion and cup run didn’t create an unrealistic sense of expectation, quite the opposite, I think they emphasised just what can be achieved with the right formula.

That promotion season was mental, those last few games! Then a quarter final in the fa cup next season. But what I find so hard to process is, just how wrong it all went this year. Quite literally the opposite to a standard hurst team.

Quoted from kevikov

I think the promotion and cup run didn’t create an unrealistic sense of expectation, quite the opposite, I think they emphasised just what can be achieved with the right formula.

That promotion season was mental, those last few games! Then a quarter final in the fa cup next season. But what I find so hard to process is, just how wrong it all went this year. Quite literally the opposite to a standard hurst team.

I think the club wanted a style of football that he couldn't produce. He tried and failed, and I think it's as simple as that.