Kamil Conteh

Apparently Bristol Rovers are looking at him, according to X (Twitter).

Not sure I’d go there if I were him. If he has a solid season or two here he will move upwards.

Thought we'd get more than half a season before this started, but it's to be expected he's a player with massive potential! I would have hoped that Bristol Rovers isn't a quite the massive pull other clubs maybe. If he has a good season or two here and he'd get a far better move imo, risks not been able to quite make the step up to L1 yet and slowing his progress. However seems there are a few others skulking around.

Rumour of a release clause, hopefully not true as I think a sell on fee has the potential to make us some serious money later down the line. I reckon the best bet at keeping him if interest is serious is him recognising he could hold out for a better move in the summer or sometime after that.

Quoted from davmariner

Not sure I’d go there if I were him. If he has a solid season or two here he will move upwards.

Aye, mid-table League One club with no real chance of promotion this year. He’ll get a better offer than that in the summer if he knuckles down.

That aside, there’s very little to suggest the Tweetist / Xist knows what he’s on about…

Unfortunately there is a release clause in his contract so if that’s triggered Town can’t wait until the summer for a bidding war it’ll be down to the player if he wants to move now or not. Only hope for town to make some serious cash out of him is if they can get a decent sell on fee put in for when he does go. Also Middlesbrough have a sell on fee for when we sell him on so they will take a chunk of the money too.

Have they got any money?

Our owners are very astute and I think are trying to follow the Brighton model for recruitment.

You can bet your bottom dollar that any sale will recover a healthy profit (on top of the sell on fee) and include a large sell on fee for his next move!!

JS & AP are no mugs!!

Maybe, just maybe this could be the start of that plan falling into place!!

Unless I've missed it when he was signed I'm not sure how anyone would know the details of his contract, but as ever this is a football message board and loads of people are ITK.

I'd be really disappointed with him if he went there, not just for the fact he's leaving but for the fact that someone with his talent and potential should aim higher.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Unless I've missed it when he was signed I'm not sure how anyone would know the details of his contract, but as ever this is a football message board and loads of people are ITK.

I'd be really disappointed with him if he went there, not just for the fact he's leaving but for the fact that someone with his talent and potential should aim higher.

Hurst even admitted to Matt Dean in an interview that Middlesbrough had a sell on clause in his contract as part of the deal.

They can’t afford him

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Unfortunately there is a release clause in his contract so if that’s triggered Town can’t wait until the summer for a bidding war it’ll be down to the player if he wants to move now or not. Only hope for town to make some serious cash out of him is if they can get a decent sell on fee put in for when he does go. Also Middlesbrough have a sell on fee for when we sell him on so they will take a chunk of the money too.

Any idea what that might be?

Quoted from mariner91

Any idea what that might be?

Yeah send me a private message if you like and I’ll let you know as I’m not prepared to put it on here incase it affects anything.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Yeah send me a private message if you like and I’ll let you know as I’m not prepared to put it on here incase it affects anything.

If there's a release clause, his agent will know about it, so there's hardly any point in keeping at a secret.
If he wants to move anywhere his agent will make any buying club aware of that clause.

I think Hurst said Middlesbrough had a buy back clause and a significant sell on.

There's no way there'd be a release clause aswell as guaranteeing Middlesborough a sell on %. You are just limiting yourself and there's no way JS or PH would be that naive. I'd be very shocked if he went anywhere in January when he signed a 3 year deal in the summer.

If theres no release clause, stick a £500k price tag on him, as we have no reason to sell.

If there is one, theres nothing we can do about it, but I certainly hope the release clause is close to £350k, due to the rumoured £150k purchase price and Middlesboroughs rumoured 20% sell on clause.

This would net us a profit of £160k, which isn't bad for 6 months, however personally I wouldnt want him to go yet.

Quoted from Corkyefes

If theres no release clause, stick a £500k price tag on him, as we have no reason to sell.

If there is one, theres nothing we can do about it, but I certainly hope the release clause is close to £350k, due to the rumoured £150k purchase price and Middlesboroughs rumoured 20% sell on clause.

This would net us a profit of £160k, which isn't bad for 6 months, however personally I wouldnt want him to go yet.

500k too low in my opinion. Very talented young player with a lot of interest, it's January, and he's got 2.5 years left on his deal. £1,000,000 minimum

Quoted from MaccasBoots

500k too low in my opinion. Very talented young player with a lot of interest, it's January, and he's got 2.5 years left on his deal. £1,000,000 minimum

Defo this! 👆

You've got to see the irony that there's several players we would love to see the back of this window but Conteh is not one of them...

...b*gger!

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Unless I've missed it when he was signed I'm not sure how anyone would know the details of his contract, but as ever this is a football message board and loads of people are ITK.

Info is coming from "Alan Buckley" with 11 posts, how much ITK do you want?

He will play in the Premiership won't he ?

And go for a lot of money at some stage barring disaster

Whether we lose him now or in the summer it's vital we get the right deal for us with regards his next move after this which will probably be the big 1 .

Quoted from pizzzza

Info is coming from "Alan Buckley" with 11 posts, how much ITK do you want?

In fairness, this was my initial thought too, but a quick check of those posts reveals that he did in fact correctly predict the signing of Callum Ainley several days before it was announced.

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1682500547//id-1672124

Either way, he's a fantastic player, and one we should all appreciate him for just how good he is.
Hopefully we get at least another year with him!

Quoted from pizzzza

Info is coming from "Alan Buckley" with 11 posts, how much ITK do you want?

To be fair, I’m pretty sure he’s right.

I really like the lad he's a Rolls Royce on his days However in the event we got a decent fee 750k+ it would allow DA to bring in his own players Player's move on all the time and Conteh will play a lot higher than league 2 .

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I really like the lad he's a Rolls Royce on his days However in the event we got a decent fee 750k+ it would allow DA to bring in his own players Player's move on all the time and Conteh will play a lot higher than league 2 .

Think we’re looking at about a third of that to be fair. Key is wether we can have a sell on fee.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Think we’re looking at about a third of that to be fair. Key is wether we can have a sell on fee.

250k shouldn't warrant us giving a reply in my opinion but I've no idea what the going rate is for potential?

Quoted from 1mickylyons

250k shouldn't warrant us giving a reply in my opinion but I've no idea what the going rate is for potential?

That’s irrelevant, if he has a release clause fee, then he can go for that fee . Can’t do anything about it

Quoted from supertown

That’s irrelevant, if he has a release clause fee, then he can go for that fee . Can’t do anything about it

Exactly and that’s why I posted about him having a release clause in his contract no to profess to know everything but to just give a reality check to the people thinking we’re going to get anything like half a million for him.

Quoted from supertown

That’s irrelevant, if he has a release clause fee, then he can go for that fee . Can’t do anything about it

You can offer him an improved contract if you felt it was needed surely?

Quoted from 1mickylyons

You can offer him an improved contract if you felt it was needed surely?

You can, absolutely.
But why would he accept it when he can go to a league 1 side that will offer him more than we could on a improved contract anyway?

Ugh, I hate saying this but I think we're probably a bit snookered here.

When we signed Conteh it was pretty obvious that the intent was we would be a stepping stone, but that works for both parties and very much part of that continuous improvement approach.  We benefit from him playing for us, he gets experience and exposure. When it comes to selling we can then reinvest whatever transfer fee we get for him into something (hopefully) better.  Repeat until we win the Champions League...

But getting him here in the first place was as much of a coup as it was unexpected.  No doubt we will have had to have made significant compromises.  Firstly to 'Boro - return clause and hefty sell-on fee.  Secondly to the player himself, otherwise he probably wasn't signing for us, that will have come in the relatively low release fee.  That enables him to impress and move on quite quickly, limited time wasted slumming in League Two with us...

That's the matter of the situation.  We can't get away from it and we agreed to it.  

I've absolutely no idea on what that release fee looks like but I don't think we're in a position to be demanding mega money.   For some context, here's a player who has played less than 2000 minutes in the fourth tier of English football.  Yes he's got potential but he's not a baby either, he's just turned 21.  Equally so when he's impressed he's looked the absolute business, but he's also looked anonymous at times too.

Different type of midfielders but to give some comparison for a similar aged midfielders in the lower leagues.  Jack Rudoni left AFC Wimbledon 18 months ago after two seasons as a mainstay in a League One side.  His final season, one he bagged 12  goals from midfield, that's in a side that got relegated too.  No transfer fee was ever disclosed but it was rumoured to be around £800,000.  Rudoni had just turned 21.

Joe Randall - nearly 22 when he joined Peterborough from Exeter for 'at least £1million' according to Darragh McAnthony.  That was on the back of 8 goals in 30 games in League Two though.

As stated, that's comparing attacking midfielders to Conteh but generally the further up the pitch you go the higher the price anyway.  Exeter did sell Ethan Ampadu to Chelsea in 2018 for £1,3million, but that was for a 16-year-old with 8 League Two games under his belt, arguably an awful lot more scope for development than a 21-year-old.

I don't think we've seen the best of Conteh yet.  I think the lad has ridiculous levels of ability and potential, but I'm also not convinced any sale of him is going to be a mega windfall.  Our best hope of really cashing in will be on the long term and him progressing from somewhere like Bristol Rovers to the next level.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Think we’re looking at about a third of that to be fair. Key is wether we can have a sell on fee.

It's rumoured that we paid 200'000, I don't see any world in which we don't sell for at least double that especially the fact that it's public knowledge that there's a sell on for Boro. We'd be making a loss if we sell for 250.

Sell-on clauses are usually profit related wherever you sit in the chain.

'Boro would get 50%, just throwing that out there, of any profit we make.  In your scenario, £25k for them which won't even touch the sides.  I'd genuinely be gutted if we ended up initially making £25k on him.

Its shite here, Rovers purpose built training ground is near me and set in lovely Green Gloucestershire countryside, he'll hate it.  

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

It's rumoured that we paid 200'000, I don't see any world in which we don't sell for at least double that especially the fact that it's public knowledge that there's a sell on for Boro. We'd be making a loss if we sell for 250.

Sell on clauses are often only based on the gross profit. Let's see how it pans out, Conteh seems to have his head screwed on and might want to get some more games under his belt before he thinks about the next step. If he performs well between now and the summer, better offers are likely to come his way.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

It's rumoured that we paid 200'000, I don't see any world in which we don't sell for at least double that especially the fact that it's public knowledge that there's a sell on for Boro. We'd be making a loss if we sell for 250.

250 is the figure I’ve heard a few times. I don’t pretend to know first hand though and I could be completely wrong but I’m comfortable enough with it.

Not sure we paid that much for him but as others have said the devils in the detail as always with contracts as it can be very intricate. Is it profit or total price, 250 above what we paid and/or is our earning potential more tied in to potential sell on fees as opposed to out and out fee - this level it’s generally the former. There is a hundred other conditions or nuances that could be included in any clause.

Let's see how it plays out - windows are never boring are they!

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

It's rumoured that we paid 200'000, I don't see any world in which we don't sell for at least double that especially the fact that it's public knowledge that there's a sell on for Boro. We'd be making a loss if we sell for 250.

1. Do you really think we paid £200k for a player last summer? 2. Do you really think we paid £200k for a player with a buy out clause for £250k? 3. REALLY?.

I think Santa clause is more realistic clause than that.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Hurst even admitted to Matt Dean in an interview that Middlesbrough had a sell on clause in his contract as part of the deal.

Yeah that's probably no surprise to anyone.

As you're clearly ITK can you tell us all what trigger's the release clause? I'm sure it won't just be as weak as L1 club asks the question.

Maybe the release clause only applied to Middlesbrough? Tbh he isn't that great anyway been struggling to get in a team lately on the verge of disaster. I'd take the money and rebuild with it

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Yeah that's probably no surprise to anyone.

As you're clearly ITK can you tell us all what trigger's the release clause? I'm sure it won't just be as weak as L1 club asks the question.

A club has to offer the full release clause in full upfront and then we are obliged to accept the offer. Obviously conteh could still reject that club but we couldn’t stop him talking to them if they meet the release clause.


Also it would be beneficial for us that he did make a small step up first before a big club take a punt on him that way we are more likely to receive a substantial sell on fee from his next club rather than a big club coming in for him now and then him not making a second step up rendering our sell on clause redundant if that makes sense.

Quoted from Blundellite

Maybe the release clause only applied to Middlesbrough? Tbh he isn't that great anyway been struggling to get in a team lately on the verge of disaster. I'd take the money and rebuild with it

DA rested him the other week otherwise he’s the best midfielder we have on our books by a country mile. But he’s only just 21 so there are obviously areas he needs to improve and like all players he has poor games however, if he does move on he would leave a big gap and I would want any money his sale brings in to bring in two quality midfield players at this level.

Any deal would have to satisfy the requirements of both parties, obviously, so I doubt that anybody would be surprised at a young player, with high potential, insisting on a sell-on clause when joining a League 2 club on a three year deal.

However - and this is me speculating a bit - if I had been negotiating on behalf of the club, I think I would have agreed, providing that the clause only became active after the first year, thus giving the buying club (us in this case) stability for this season.  I don't see why the player would find this unacceptable, it wouldn't prevent a move in the January window if an offer came in which suited both the player and club.

Like I said, pure speculation as I have no knowledge or experience of footballer contracts, but it would be interesting to see feedback on this from anybody who has.

#ClutchingAtStraws?

Quoted from Alan Buckley

A club has to offer the full release clause in full upfront and then we are obliged to accept the offer. Obviously conteh could still reject that club but we couldn’t stop him talking to them if they meet the release clause.


Also it would be beneficial for us that he did make a small step up first before a big club take a punt on him that way we are more likely to receive a substantial sell on fee from his next club rather than a big club coming in for him now and then him not making a second step up rendering our sell on clause redundant if that makes sense.

Get that, but I think my question is what actually triggers the release clause, your reply was a bit generic like reading a horoscope in the paper.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Get that, but I think my question is what actually triggers the release clause, your reply was a bit generic like reading a horoscope in the paper.

I mean, I’m not sure how else I can simplify it. If a club matches the release clause upfront then that triggers it? I’m not sure what else I can say 🙃

Quoted from Alan Buckley

I mean, I’m not sure how else I can simplify it. If a club matches the release clause upfront then that triggers it? I’m not sure what else I can say 🙃

What is the release clause?

Isn’t the whole purpose of a release clause usually some kind of inflated amount? so to say that if you want a player you have to pay through the nose for it. It would be very ‘town like’ to have a sh1te release clause.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Isn’t the whole purpose of a release clause usually some kind of inflated amount? so to say that if you want a player you have to pay through the nose for it. It would be very ‘town like’ to have a sh1te release clause.

That depends on if you’re trying to convince a player to join you instead of a league 1 club. So you offer him a realistic release clause so that if he performs he can get a move up the ladder.

Does he play like a player that cost £200,000 in league 2 tho. That cost as a defensive midfielder in league 2 to a club who has let in 11 goals at home in 2 games.....just saying

Quoted from jamesgtfc

What is the release clause?

Exactly!

Isn't there a sell on clause that the selling club can receive future fees if the player moved on numerous times as long as the future selling club also has the same clause?  Ah i'm probably getting confused.

  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Exactly!

I’m not going to disclose the figure publicly and when he does go the fee will be undisclosed also I’d imagine to help protect the club in negotiations with new players and clubs.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

I’m not going to disclose the figure publicly and when he does go the fee will be undisclosed also I’d imagine to help protect the club in negotiations with new players and clubs.

Hmmmm....... Whilst I don't doubt there is various clauses in his contract I do doubt you truly know the detail, but I guess we'll never know that for sure.

Quoted from Meza

Isn't there a sell on clause that the selling club can receive future fees if the player moved on numerous times as long as the future selling club also has the same clause?  Ah i'm probably getting confused.

  

Now known as the Dembele clause.

Quoted from Alan Buckley

A club has to offer the full release clause in full upfront and then we are obliged to accept the offer. Obviously conteh could still reject that club but we couldn’t stop him talking to them if they meet the release clause.


Also it would be beneficial for us that he did make a small step up first before a big club take a punt on him that way we are more likely to receive a substantial sell on fee from his next club rather than a big club coming in for him now and then him not making a second step up rendering our sell on clause redundant if that makes sense.

Good point; I was thinking that for the player why move to League 1 now when a much bigger move could be on the cards in the summer, with a good second half of the season (and he was outstanding on Saturday), but for us if the big move is at the release clause price we may miss out on our sell-on. On that basis the smaller the club that takes him at the release clause price the better for us in terms of likelihood of a sell-on dividend.

So 6 pages on and the conclusion is that nobody knows.

What I want to know is this guy the  real ALAN BUCKLEY ?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Hmmmm....... Whilst I don't doubt there is various clauses in his contract I do doubt you truly know the detail, but I guess we'll never know that for sure.

That’s absolutely fine that’s your opinion and like I say I could say the figure and that figure will probably not come out even when he’s sold so it wouldn’t prove me right anyway. But I am 😉

Quoted from crusty ole pie

What I want to know is this guy the  real ALAN BUCKLEY ?

No, my son isn’t a thief

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Its shite here, Rovers purpose built training ground is near me and set in lovely Green Gloucestershire countryside, he'll hate it.  

I've heard that he really despises cider, so that could go in our favour.

Quoted from crusty ole pie

What I want to know is this guy the  real ALAN BUCKLEY ?

More chance of him being Alan Partridge

Quoted from Jammin242

More chance of him being Alan Partridge

A Ha!

I hope he doesn't leave but it's quite plausible that he has a release clause. He'd had a great loan, was clearly above the level, clearly fancies he's got the ability to play higher.

3 year deal gives him some security, release clause means that if he really shines he will get his move.
I'd love to see him stay, as I think he's going to be a really fantastic player. He's already improving, noticed in recent games he's driving forward with his head up and has made some great long range forward passes that weren't happening before.
I think we might have a struggle though as the data fans will know he has made the most tackles and interceptions of anyone in the division. That will not go unnoticed by other clubs.

I'd also add it's brilliant work from the club and Joe whatshischops. He's either signed us a quality player for 3 years or he will have paid his own wages back to the club for years by getting Conteh in.

I’ve no inside info but we might have bought him for 200k or we might have a 250k release clause, but I absolutely guarantee both won’t be true.

One way to look at this would be to ask what would Bristol Rovers be capable of paying and does that make what has been said here likely. Thought not relevant today there record transfer fee paid was £446k for a certain Andy Tillson over 30 years ago . More relevant the most they have paid in modern times is £350k last summer for Connor Taylor a 21 year old centre back from Stoke with few league appearances. So being capable and willing to pay a similar fee for Conteh is clearly a possibility and that sort of fee could well be more then specified in any release clause. So if they want him and he wants to go a deal looks probable. Also worthy of note is that he is London boy who only spent one year in Middlesbrough so a move down south is also on the cards. Our best outcome might be a bidding war if a south eastern club is interested.This is merely an attempt at logic no inside knowledge.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve no inside info but we might have bought him for 200k or we might have a 250k release clause, but I absolutely guarantee both won’t be true.

Quite right. If we paid 200k with the view to developing him as a player (and the expectation that he would be moving on before the end of his contract), I can't see any way that a release clause would be less than double what we paid.

I tend to doubt he'll move anywhere this season as, though he's done well in lots of games, we're in the bottom half of the division and not many of his performances have proved game-changing. As others have commented, it's a bit different for attackers who can start scoring or creating goals to get themselves noticed, but sitting in midfield breaking up and linking play is a less glamorous role.

Quoted from HerveJosse

One way to look at this would be to ask what would Bristol Rovers be capable of paying and does that make what has been said here likely. Thought not relevant today there record transfer fee paid was £446k for a certain Andy Tillson over 30 years ago . More relevant the most they have paid in modern times is £350k last summer for Connor Taylor a 21 year old centre back from Stoke with few league appearances. So being capable and willing to pay a similar fee for Conteh is clearly a possibility and that sort of fee could well be more then specified in any release clause. So if they want him and he wants to go a deal looks probable. Also worthy of note is that he is London boy who only spent one year in Middlesbrough so a move down south is also on the cards. Our best outcome might be a bidding war if a south eastern club is interested.This is merely an attempt at logic no inside knowledge[b][/b].

That's the mistake I made Herve - there is no bidding war (except for clubs talking to Conteh and his agent); the club meets the release clause and he's gone (so long as he agrees terms with the club)

in other words; teams A,B, C&D are all after Conteh, and each agree to pay the release clause. The only thing that remains to be tied up is which club Kamil agrees to go to

Quoted from forza ivano

That's the mistake I made Herve - there is no bidding war (except for clubs talking to Conteh and his agent); the club meets the release clause and he's gone (so long as he agrees terms with the club)

in other words; teams A,B, C&D are all after Conteh, and each agree to pay the release clause. The only thing that remains to be tied up is which club Kamil agrees to go to

You have absolutely no idea of what's in his contract though do you.

Quoted from forza ivano

That's the mistake I made Herve - there is no bidding war (except for clubs talking to Conteh and his agent); the club meets the release clause and he's gone (so long as he agrees terms with the club)

in other words; teams A,B, C&D are all after Conteh, and each agree to pay the release clause. The only thing that remains to be tied up is which club Kamil agrees to go to

It’s perfectly possible to have a release clause which says if more then one party meets it the club can accept the highest bid .

Quoted from HerveJosse

It’s perfectly possible to have a release clause which says if more then one party meets it the club can accept the highest bid .

Absolutely- I don’t think AP & JS got where they are from being niave!! They’ll have this all wrapped up as it would have been all part of the plan.

We aren’t dealing with Fenty anymore!!

All of this is intriguing speculation. Personally I believe the following

1. The club is run by a savvy Chairman. I can’t speak for other contributors to fishy, but I think he is more commercially savvy than me.
2. Given the above, I doubt he has allowed commercially sensitive to be released to the likes of us lot.
3. Let’s just rejoice in 5 goals scored last Saturday and hope our defence improves.
4. I’m going to watch the game at Harrogate. I hope we win, but given the fact that Harrogate can go into playoff position if they win, I’m going with a prediction score of 3-2,…..just not sure which team….

Quoted from Maringer

I've heard that he really despises cider, so that could go in our favour.

Nah we'd get him on the Natch soon sort him out

Quoted from Maringer

Quite right. If we paid 200k with the view to developing him as a player (and the expectation that he would be moving on before the end of his contract), I can't see any way that a release clause would be less than double what we paid.

I tend to doubt he'll move anywhere this season as, though he's done well in lots of games, we're in the bottom half of the division and not many of his performances have proved game-changing. As others have commented, it's a bit different for attackers who can start scoring or creating goals to get themselves noticed, but sitting in midfield breaking up and linking play is a less glamorous role.

It’s absolutely obvious he’s a fantastic footballer though, and he’s only just turned 21 which still amazes me given how assured he is on the pitch. Any scout worth their salt would pick him out of the crowd and any side paying 250k (based on the rumour) should be looking at that as an absolute steal.

I was told by a mate with close links to the owners before they fully took over that they were keen on the Brentford model of investing in quality young players that sell on for good profit and this fits that bill. He also said though, that it we couldn’t do it at their level as it’s costly to set up and they use the infrastructure of a betting company that already has it in place - I guess that’s why we’ve signed up with Loughborough university to use a more affordable version - that looks like it’s starting to pay off.

Quoted from Mappers

He will play in the Premiership won't he ?

And go for a lot of money at some stage barring disaster

Whether we lose him now or in the summer it's vital we get the right deal for us with regards his next move after this which will probably be the big 1 .

Not sure he'd fancy Scotland tbh

I’m 100% sure that Conteh & maybe a couple of others would have a clause in their contract to exit if an attractive offer for the player or the club came in.

So far it’s 8 pages based upon a tweet and someone who claims to be ITK but hasn’t  backed up his posts.

Also unlike some who claim they can confirm this I’m pretty sure we didn’t pay £200k for him, in fact if we did I’d be pretty p1ssed off with the club for spending such a big part of the budget on a “prospect” who’d never played in the EFL.

At this stage I suspect this needs to sit in the Healy & Morrison folder on top of the Glennon & Clifton file.

The silly season is upon us.

Quoted from Lost in Lincoln

Not sure he'd fancy Scotland tbh

I heard he was off to Saracens.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I’m 100% sure that Conteh & maybe a couple of others would have a clause in their contract to exit if an attractive offer for the player or the club came in.

So far it’s 8 pages based upon a tweet and someone who claims to be ITK but hasn’t  backed up his posts.

Also unlike some who claim they can confirm this I’m pretty sure we didn’t pay £200k for him, in fact if we did I’d be pretty p1ssed off with the club for spending such a big part of the budget on a “prospect” who’d never played in the EFL.

At this stage I suspect this needs to sit in the Healy & Morrison folder on top of the Glennon & Clifton file.

The silly season is upon us.

Aww bless you.


My posts have been firstly about Callum Ainley signing which was backed up. And now about Conteh’s release clause which I’ve let a few people know who have private messaged me, again I’ll state that even when he is eventually sold his fee almost certainly won’t be made public anyway.

Also we didn’t pay anywhere near the 200k that people are saying we will still make a healthy profit on him especially if he moves twice. It just won’t be a £500k bid that he goes for 😂

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Aww bless you.


My posts have been firstly about Callum Ainley signing which was backed up. And now about Conteh’s release clause which I’ve let a few people know who have private messaged me, again I’ll state that even when he is eventually sold his fee almost certainly won’t be made public anyway.

Also we didn’t pay anywhere near the 200k that people are saying we will still make a healthy profit on him especially if he moves twice. It just won’t be a £500k bid that he goes for 😂

So, are you saying that we do have a sell on clause then?

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve no inside info but we might have bought him for 200k or we might have a 250k release clause, but I absolutely guarantee both won’t be true.

If we paid 100k for him there is no way we'd have a clause for 250k

Quoted from Alan Buckley

Aww bless you.


My posts have been firstly about Callum Ainley signing which was backed up. And now about Conteh’s release clause which I’ve let a few people know who have private messaged me, again I’ll state that even when he is eventually sold his fee almost certainly won’t be made public anyway.

Also we didn’t pay anywhere near the 200k that people are saying we will still make a healthy profit on him especially if he moves twice. It just won’t be a £500k bid that he goes for 😂

I’m 100% sure we won’t officially announce a fee too, we quite rightly never do.

Quoted from grimps

If we paid 100k for him there is no way we'd have a clause for 250k

Why?

I don't know the figures be it for his transfer fee or for his release.  But I don't think it's unfathomable that there would have been other interest in him last summer.  Getting him required an incentive that no-one else would have been prepared to offer.

That could well be a very low release clause.  I don't think we'll have paid massive wages for him and as much as I think he's got his head screwed on I really can't imagine he bought into the long-term vision of the club.  More I think about it the more I can see us pitching the club to him on the basis that he comes here, builds up his reputation a bit more and then we really don't stand in his way when it comes to someone else higher up the food chain wanting to take him.  He's proved he can cut it at the next level in his development, which probably allows him to demand a better deal at his next club.  Our benefit just comes a little bit differently.

Profit is profit, regardless of when it comes. It might be that we make very little off this transfer, let's say £25k.  But with a sell-on clause any future transfers is where we really make our money on him.

Obviously we want to see the money back from him straight away but would we rather see £250k profit now or £500k upwards in 18 months time?    Easy answer but to add another angle to it, I can't imagine there's a cat in hells chance he signs for us last summer without that release fee in place.

Take the short-term out of it and I really like this plan.  It's different and makes us a little bit different to the rest when it comes to the transfer market.  We've seen how the non-league market has become completely ravaged.  The days of signing Jamie Vardy for 47p and then selling them a year later for £1million have long gone.  So we need to think of other ways that we can gain that competitive edge and steal a march.  This type of deal not only is a potential future income stream but it's also a great way for us to become appealing to the next Kamil Conteh.  

We might have to wait 18 months to see the real profit from Conteh.  But in those 18 months we might have brought in Conteh Mk II and Mk III.  Mk II we sell next summer, again not a huge initial profit but another year down the line we make a tidy profit as part of their next transfer... and so on.

Rovers bid has apparently been rejected by the club

Some of the ITK posters going to look quite daft if they’ve made up a release clause

But all the Bristol Rovers supporters on twitter were bragging about their club's undoubted financial might and certain ability to meet whatever paltry release clause was set in Conteh's contract, how could this be possible!??!

Quoted from pontoonlew

Some of the ITK posters going to look quite daft if they’ve made up a release clause

Piece from the local Bristol news outlet here. No inference is made towards a release clause, and references the £370k club record for Andy Tillson as the benchmark. Have they really got the spondoolies to be paying that kind of sum?

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/.....gning-league-9041647

Quoted from Poojah

Piece from the local Bristol news outlet here. No inference is made towards a release clause, and references the £370k club record for Andy Tillson as the benchmark. Have they really got the spondoolies to be paying that kind of sum?

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/.....gning-league-9041647

They have Middle Eastern owners with net worth of £500 m plus have just built a new 3000 capacity stand in 6 months even though they expect to relocate in the future and paid £350k for a 21 year old  from Stoke so yes they have the spondoolies

Quoted from HerveJosse

They have Middle Eastern owners with net worth of £500 m plus have just built a new 3000 capacity stand in 6 months even though they expect to relocate in the future and paid £350k for a 21 year old  from Stoke so yes they have the spondoolies

Right, £700k it is then.

The Arabs like chucking money around when it comes to football clubs, so make 'em pay if they want to sign him!

Hopefully, he'll stay with us until at least the end of the season, however.

Quoted from Mappers

Tweet 1747925093886345484 will appear here...

This tweet reads as that there's no release clause to me...

So one source saying it would break their record fee and another saying we've rejected. If both are right then the clause would be at least more than 375k.

The big problem for Town could well be a player with his head turned and trying to replace him in January. Hopefully a few Clubs are interested and we get a good fee and better still it happens quickly  

Quoted from 1mickylyons

The big problem for Town could well be a player with his head turned and trying to replace him in January. Hopefully a few Clubs are interested and we get a good fee and better still it happens quickly  

Agree with that and JS has always stated that he'll do right by the players and the football club, but a good next 6 months and there'll be a lot more lucrative offers than Bristol Rovers on the table for Kam.

You would think first bid or two will be low to try it on.. hopefully there's a few clubs interested