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diehardmariner
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He looked in form on Saturday..


I thought he looked back to his industrious self, but not quite at his overall levels of last season.  His end product was still quite poor.  Last season and the back end of the promotion season he had a belief about himself, of course he wasn't putting every chance away or every cross inch perfect.  But on Saturday it just felt like he a lacked a bit of conviction when in the position to shoot/cross .  Like so many this campaign he's looked devoid of confidence and playing a little within.

Hunt, Glennon, Mullarkey, even Conteh are all benefiting from a shot in the arm with the old confidence booster.  Fingers crossed it works for Harry too.
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I thought he looked back to his industrious self, but not quite at his overall levels of last season.  His end product was still quite poor.  Last season and the back end of the promotion season he had a belief about himself, of course he wasn't putting every chance away or every cross inch perfect.  But on Saturday it just felt like he a lacked a bit of conviction when in the position to shoot/cross .  Like so many this campaign he's looked devoid of confidence and playing a little within.

Hunt, Glennon, Mullarkey, even Conteh are all benefiting from a shot in the arm with the old confidence booster.  Fingers crossed it works for Harry too.


Harry looked a bit different to last season. Better in some ways. More playing on the half turn etc. Looked confident and definitely got into the same positions as he did last year without being picked out with a pass. His improvement was the biggest thing I took out of the game. I think Newport deserve some credit for our passing play not coming off rather than looking at our players individually..
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Had several good games at left back, a couple of good ones at right back and a shocker at Slough when he was playing through injury. When he gets his chance under Artell, I expect him to flourish with new instructions.. There's a higher ceiling to work with than Mullarkey due to physical attributes. If Artell can get him confident and playing with shackles truly off then we might have the right back that played so well against Plymouth and Southampton every week. I'm definitely interested to see what Artell can do with Michee. Might turn out to be an absolute monster or he may not.. time will tell..


I'm not so convinced that Efete will somehow suddenly flourish under Artell. Defensively, I think he's solid, as his pace, strength and height mean that he's rarely beaten at the back and he often wins free-kicks as has his fouled when he drives forward with the ball after winning possession. However, his crossing is flipping terrible. Always has been and I'm of the view that, if you can't cross a ball very well by your mid-20s, you probably never will. Defensively, I think he's a bit better than Mullarkey but I'm not convinced he'll ever win back the position from him. A very useful player to have on the bench, however. I suspect he could probably fill in at centre-back or play in a back three if required.
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I'm not so convinced that Efete will somehow suddenly flourish under Artell. Defensively, I think he's solid, as his pace, strength and height mean that he's rarely beaten at the back and he often wins free-kicks as has his fouled when he drives forward with the ball after winning possession. However, his crossing is flipping terrible. Always has been and I'm of the view that, if you can't cross a ball very well by your mid-20s, you probably never will. Defensively, I think he's a bit better than Mullarkey but I'm not convinced he'll ever win back the position from him. A very useful player to have on the bench, however. I suspect he could probably fill in at centre-back or play in a back three if required.


There’s certainly an argument his best position is on the right of a back three. He did well there a few times last season and was particularly excellent against Southampton.


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Efete is very frustrating to watch.  He often doubles back when in good attacking positions. Defensively his sense of danger is not as good as it should be.  He can be caught out of position as well.

He is a talented player but does not make the most of his abilities.  
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Holohan did well with his interchange, run and cross.
I had no idea he had so much pace.

More of the same please Gav
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Quoted from TownSNAFU5
Efete is very frustrating to watch.  He often doubles back when in good attacking positions. Defensively his sense of danger is not as good as it should be.  He can be caught out of position as well.

He is a talented player but does not make the most of his abilities.  


Sorry but I don't even think he's that talented. Very athletic but not much else.


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I'll answer the last few comments re Efete together.

Out of the 50 or so full backs in League Two last season, in a mixed season for him, he came fourth highest in goals and assists.

He's quicker, stronger and better in the air than Mullarkey, a better one on one defender, more of an aerial asset in the box in both defending and attacking.

We're all ok with the improvement Mullarkey has made under Artell. He's twenty eight, a couple of years older than Efete. Footballers never stop learning, every training session and game until they retire. It's the body that lets them down in the end.

I understand the frustration re Efete checking back last season, but weren't we all moaning about our inability to get bodies in the box too. I'm not too sure whether it was Hurst or his own head that held Michee back at times, but I'm fairly sure Artell will see him as a decent work in progress proposition, he's got a lot of attributes to work with. Confidence, crossing technique and concentration can easily be worked on by a manager like Artell. I've included crossing, although he's put in some cracking balls in his time at the club, but consistency does need to be better.

Michee will be a slower burner than Mullarkey, but at some stage I expect him to be our first choice, maybe not even this season, but sometime in the future once Artell has spent some time with him..
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Quoted from Bigdog
I'll answer the last few comments re Efete together.

Out of the 50 or so full backs in League Two last season, in a mixed season for him, he came fourth highest in goals and assists.

He's quicker, stronger and better in the air than Mullarkey, a better one on one defender, more of an aerial asset in the box in both defending and attacking.

We're all ok with the improvement Mullarkey has made under Artell. He's twenty eight, a couple of years older than Efete. Footballers never stop learning, every training session and game until they retire. It's the body that lets them down in the end.

I understand the frustration re Efete checking back last season, but weren't we all moaning about our inability to get bodies in the box too. I'm not too sure whether it was Hurst or his own head that held Michee back at times, but I'm fairly sure Artell will see him as a decent work in progress proposition, he's got a lot of attributes to work with. Confidence, crossing technique and concentration can easily be worked on by a manager like Artell. I've included crossing, although he's put in some cracking balls in his time at the club, but consistency does need to be better.

Michee will be a slower burner than Mullarkey, but at some stage I expect him to be our first choice, maybe not even this season, but sometime in the future once Artell has spent some time with him..


I suspect that efete is too poor in ball control, passing and calmness under pressure to fit in well with an Artell team that knocks it about directly in front of their own goal personally. On the other hand maybe Artell will get hold of him and improve him in those areas. No doubt he is an incredible athlete and a very good 1 on 1 defender.
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Does anyone else think Harry's role would be best just set in behind a striker(s). Either in a 4-3-2-1 or a 4-3-1-2. Think Harry has a guy for goal and the energy to link midfield and attack. Think he would be wasted at full back and as said above we more than covered at RB
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