A ‘Head Coach’

Quoted from Yoda

Why is Croudson exempt he’s the goal keeping coach and we have the worst goalie in living memory.

You can not polish a turd .mate.

It's not like we've been inundated with success over the last 25 years, is it?

Quoted from Yoda

Why is Croudson exempt he’s the goal keeping coach and we have the worst goalie in living memory.

You post utter shïte, some of the worst output in living memory, but we don’t ask Rob and the rest of the mods to step down

Plus, Tommy Forecast says I miss you, and he did.

Quoted from Yoda

Why is Croudson exempt he’s the goal keeping coach and we have the worst goalie in living memory.

You must be young.

The Head Coach term could be something. It equally could just be the turn of phrase - we’ve all seen Head Coaches that are traditional First Team Managers.

It could also be due to Paul still being employed, I doubt they sat down and discussed terms yesterday evening. You see it a lot in football, manager relived of their duties but end up on gardening leave whilst a settlement is agreed.

Seem to remember a few examples where managers haven’t worked for a year or two as they’re still being paid monthly having refused a settlement - taking a job would then mean they aren’t entitled to the salary from their previous club.

Suppose it’s a case of wait and see, I’m sure the ownership will communicate their plans to us all when appropriate.

As for backroom staff - I think we fail to realise sometimes our staff is unusually large compared to some L2 clubs. I remember the Fenty days when a manager turned up just with his assistant and off they went (glad we’ve progressed).

Quoted from Mikey_345

Seem to remember a few examples where managers haven’t worked for a year or two as they’re still being paid monthly having refused a settlement - taking a job would then mean they aren’t entitled to the salary from their previous club.

Hurst himself was not working for about 8 months between Ipswich and Scunthorpe and nearly a year between Scunthorpe and Grimsby. He must have a nice garden.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Head Coaches generally have much less input into player recruitment.

If that's the case and we are going down the route of a head coach, with little or no responsibility for signings, that would negate the necessity of looking for someone like PH, who has a vast knowledge of players around this level, or a similar experienced manager type.

Stockport had a DOF and head coach setup before challinor didn't they? The DOF was close to the owner and stayed after they got rid of his choice of coach but had his wings massively clipped by newly appointed challinor I believe, as he (DOF) was then in a weak position.

Quoted from ginnywings

If that's the case and we are going down the route of a head coach, with little or no responsibility for signings, that would negate the necessity of looking for someone like PH, who has a vast knowledge of players around this level, or a similar experienced manager type.

Not many head coaches at this level, so can't see how that matters too much. Really hope that's wrong though, I think that's the most expensive route to failure possible. I can see how it fits in with their ideological thinking of continuation and nonsensical jargon.

How many clubs in England have this setup and it works? Liverpool are the only one that springs to mind and it was much talked about that Klopp makes all the decisions and then the dof goes and does his bidding.

End of the day if you worked out the percentage of successful managers weve had out of our total, and itll be the same for alot of clubs, it will be pretty low, 20% at best. If you look at clubs these days that are managing sustained success or sustaining themselves at their optimum level in the pyramid, theyve usually adapted this kind of club philosophy. If you go from a jolley to a slade you have to clear out the squad and start again.

If we can have a staff that looks at the most succesful football in league two, have an idea of what we want to do, then choose a 'head coach' based on that, and weve already been able to scout out transfer targets that will suit them ahead of time because that coach plays how we also already wanted to play, meaning weve also already got players weve invested in who suit that, and youth coming through whove been coached to play that way also, were miles ahead. Its so sensible im suprised more people arent all for it, especially after watching fenty give someone a rubbish budget, sack them for not doing well, getting someone else in and them inexplicably then be able to fund a mid season desperate squad rebuild because the manager had a complete different set of ideas. Old fashioned football idealogy is stupid and it didnt matter when we used to casually rollercoaster up and down the leagues but the whole budget just came from gate receipts, times have simply changed.