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Any player not giving 100% through choice should simply be shown the door.
Wish more players in the lower leagues and even some in the premiership could show more effort off the pitch as well. Hearing and reading story's in football such as occasional binge drinking (Roy Keane's autobiography for one) is not what you want to hear . Could have been even better than he was with more sacrifice as the body is just a machine and every little helps. At least most prem football(I assume) has improved though with certain elements like diet. Going back a bit a book I read was on one of the Italian lads at Chelsea who changed the clubs ethos from daily frys ups to pasta and I remember the player in question(Dennis Wise book I think it was ) felt the benefits on the pitch eg his body was functioning much better. |
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Wish more players in the lower leagues and even some in the premiership could show more effort off the pitch as well. Hearing and reading story's in football such as occasional binge drinking (Roy Keane's autobiography for one) is not what you want to hear . Could have been even better than he was with more sacrifice as the body is just a machine and every little helps. At least most prem football(I assume) has improved though with certain elements like diet. Going back a bit a book I read was on one of the Italian lads at Chelsea who changed the clubs ethos from daily frys ups to pasta and I remember the player in question(Dennis Wise book I think it was ) felt the benefits on the pitch eg his body was functioning much better.
Gally could do 5 or 6 pints in an hour , that was enough effort off the pitch for me - he wasn't bad on it tbf was he ? But like you say the game has changed , not sure I like it more myself for many reasons but there's no doubting players are looked after a lot better with more emphasis on clean living etc which means they are in the main now more like athletes than of what a footballer used to be like - would be interesting to see if someone like Matt Le Tissier could play at a high level now . |
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Saying the players are not getting much stick. is not correct. Some of the poor sods get plenty of stick when we win. Like . He can't defend He loses his man. Can't shoot straight. Can't deliver a.ball. Ball went into the net and he made no effort to save it. There is plenty more ,should I go on ?  |
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| October 28, 2023, 10:22am |
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Gally could do 5 or 6 pints in an hour , that was enough effort off the pitch for me - he wasn't bad on it tbf was he ?
But like you say the game has changed , not sure I like it more myself for many reasons but there's no doubting players are looked after a lot better with more emphasis on clean living etc which means they are in the main now more like athletes than of what a footballer used to be like - would be interesting to see if someone like Matt Le Tissier could play at a high level now .
Talking to my old science teacher I always remember what he said though which does applies to sport and life. Water always takes the easiest route when it comes to finding a way past things eg rocks. Think some humans can often be the same and take the easy way out. Easy to be one of the lads and go drinking at the weekend with your mates or other footballers than buck the trend and try to be disciplined with the resulting sacrifice yielding results . Matt Le Tissier was some player but he did have a laid back attitude which probably held him back . I know from seeing players in youth teams this can sometimes be the case. One lad was quality and I reckon better than say the likes of Harry Clifton now. He was in the Patrick Viera mould of strong and technical but lacked that competitive aggressive edge which does help in the game . |
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I agree with you on this. I think in this situation, you need those players that will run into walls and keep going, not give an inch of space and fight for every ball. I think Clifton and Green would give an awful lot of protection to the backline, with Conteh in an advanced role. I'm not a big fan of Waterfall long term, but maybe we need Maher and Waterfall, Efete and Amos to give a real gritty basis for our team. If players want to come in, they've gotta fight there way in. Gav will be coming in to give a rest to players or to change things up.
Rodgers and Mullarkey getting out of the firing line for a few games may give them the chance to come on with nothing to lose and rediscover that form.
I would also take Eastwood out. Back him, and say you believe in him, but you're giving him 5 or so games out to rediscover his grove and take the pressure off.
TBF, most people think Clifton is not having his best season atm, and say that apart from being able to run all day, he isn't offering much to the team. |
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Spineless, Weak, and shame on the lot of them
Got a good man the sack.
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Spineless, Weak, and shame on the lot of them
Got a good man the sack.
Something was sadly wrong somewhere, even Jason Stockwood mentioned it in his interview with JT. |
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Something was sadly wrong somewhere, even Jason Stockwood mentioned it in his interview with JT.
We all thought that we made some good signings in the summer. The fact that they are not performing as well as expected may be because they are not comfortable in the roles they have been assigned, the formations they have been told to fit into and the tactics they have been told to adopt. So instead of playing their natural game and in formations which play to their strengths, they have effectively been square pegs in round holes. So they are performing nowhere near their optimal level. Hurst has persisted with his systems despite the shortcomings that were plain for all to see. The thinking may be that a new manager will utilize these players to far greater effect. Let's hope so, |
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Gallimore was the fastest player in the squad
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We all thought that we made some good signings in the summer. The fact that they are not performing as well as expected may be because they are not comfortable in the roles they have been assigned, the formations they have been told to fit into and the tactics they have been told to adopt.
So instead of playing their natural game and in formations which play to their strengths, they have effectively been square pegs in round holes. So they are performing nowhere near their optimal level. Hurst has persisted with his systems despite the shortcomings that were plain for all to see.
The thinking may be that a new manager will utilize these players to far greater effect. Let's hope so,
No, we didn’t all think we made some good signings. We signed players who’d just been relegated (Eastwood, Rodgers, Mullarkey), midfielders who weren’t needed (Conteh), perennially injured players (Vernam and Eisa) and strikers who weren’t strikers (Pyke). These guys replaced Crocombe, Smith and McAtee. Those who blindly said they were upgrades had no evidence at all. I personally was blinded by the signing of Vernam, but the others were clearly not wanted elsewhere, and haven’t done much at this level. Some of Hurst’s acolytes were even saying that Conteh would leave for £1m, and he was the best player in L2 - either he was never that, or Hurst beat the class out of him. We’ve been utter garbage since the Gillingham game. |
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