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Phil the cod
October 26, 2023, 12:06pm
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Having read the threads calling for the managers head (I'd get rid too btw) I can't believe the so called players aren't getting more stick for the run of bad results, if they are sulking or not playing for the manager, then why don't they do the fans a favour and tell us so , then we can make the call of wether to bother traveling to games and all the expenses that come with it.
Always amazes me how players escape the shite. It's like they are made of Teflon.
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Any player not giving 100% through choice should simply be shown the door.
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No evidence they are not trying for me. More a case of a combination of not good enough , lack of confidence and and in some cases the manager playing them in the wrong roles.
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It seems a complete lack of belief has taken hold of them, a lack of belief in themselves but also a lack of belief in the tactics/manager. That's my impression anyway.
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Quoted from Phil the cod
Having read the threads calling for the managers head (I'd get rid too btw) I can't believe the so called players aren't getting more stick for the run of bad results, if they are sulking or not playing for the manager, then why don't they do the fans a favour and tell us so , then we can make the call of wether to bother traveling to games and all the expenses that come with it.
Always amazes me how players escape the shite. It's like they are made of Teflon.


Not enough space on the internet to batter each player individually to the same extent as the management.
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I don't think the issue is the players not being arsed or not trying hard enough though. If that was the case, they'd be taking more flak.

I'd guess the players might be a bit bemused at the way they're being asked to play, having started the season with the intention of dominating possession in games and patiently building attacks. To now being set up in defensive systems seemingly with an emphasis on keeping our shape, trying to be solid/hard-to-beat, with no obvious or noticeable plan on how to play in possession.

That could either instil a lack of confidence in the players, who might think PH doesn't trust them or believe they can play the style we started with, or it could result in the players not believing in the manager with him abandoning what was the plan for the season and the basis of why all the new players were signed. I think PH would've had a bit more support had he stuck with the original plan and strategy from the start of the season, committed to it and just tweaked it or worked on how to improve parts of our play (creating more chances, how to get more bodies in the final third etc).

If anything it's almost shown that PH struggles to coach a team to play in a style other than the favoured solid/us-shape type of grafting with team-spirit getting us through.


"The greatest mistake you can make in life is to continually be afraid you will make one."
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October 26, 2023, 1:01pm
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Quoted from Phil the cod
Having read the threads calling for the managers head (I'd get rid too btw) I can't believe the so called players aren't getting more stick for the run of bad results, if they are sulking or not playing for the manager, then why don't they do the fans a favour and tell us so , then we can make the call of wether to bother traveling to games and all the expenses that come with it.
Always amazes me how players escape the shite. It's like they are made of Teflon.


Who signed the players, coaches the players, dictates the tactics, chooses the formation (regularly) and picks the team?
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sam gy
October 26, 2023, 1:03pm
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I don't think they're not trying. I think it's more likely, as a group they're not good enough unfortunately


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Quoted from Tommy

If anything it's almost shown that PH struggles to coach a team to play in a style other than the favoured solid/us-shape type of grafting with team-spirit getting us through.


I think this is the crucial part. He's never managed to get a team to be free-flowing and attacking. He's had spells where his teams have scored a lot of goals but at the first sign of trouble he reverts back to keeping us shape. It will massively limit his career.
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If we could get rid of all the players on the books in one go without having to pay compensation how many would we be prepared to  offer new 2 year contracts to ?    -- Clifton Cohen Hallohan ?  there's not many is there ?
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