Just back after 70 minutes

At 70 minutes I was thinking how would I sum this game up and I came up with two excrement teams.


At full time I thought one excrement team and one that was a complete utter shower of clueless shite with a manager that looks like he has lost the plot.

Quoted from arryarryarry

If our recruitment hasn't been good enough who are you saying who's fault that was.

All managers make mistakes, but that doesn’t mean they can’t turn things around or make the changes needed to stabilise things. It is still early in the season and we are coming off the back of a tough run of fixtures. What’s the point in sacking him now? It’ll just lead to another slump over a run of games that we can pick up points from.

Genuine question. Is Hurst a coaching manager or a manager manager. By that I mean is there any culpability for Davies, Doig, Pearson etc. Who takes the sessions? Who drills the tactics?

I've always been a fan of Hurst but just don't see him ever being brave enough to go at teams, especially at home. We lost that game in the first half. A strong wind behind our backs and yet recall 1 shot that the keeper had to make. We should have peppered the goal to take a comfortable advantage into the 2nd half, and yet 1 striker on the pitch, limited skill and guile in the centre, Holohan and Maher left on the bench when they are arguably 2 of our best players and too many players simply not in any kind of form at all.
Paul has a reluctance to change the system, either from the start of from the bench apart from the last 5 minutes when the game is lost already.

I would like a new approach and management team before this season either peters out or we get dragged in a relegation fight.
I believe the Cowley brothers are not in management ATM. Just saying

Quoted from smokey111

Genuine question. Is Hurst a coaching manager or a manager manager. By that I mean is there any culpability for Davies, Doig, Pearson etc. Who takes the sessions? Who drills the tactics?

What tactics ? we don't have an attacking co-ordinator/coach so what do we expect....yep a well drilled defensive team ( well a defensive team) who lose it attacking.
Why in the second half did we play the same way as them, lets hoof a long ball and watch it come back on the wind Alan Buckleys teams would've ripped this team a new one.

A others have said a truly awful performance and it’s hard to think of any player who actually played well. Maybe I’m just too old for modern football tactics but having two players stuck out wide with one isolated (& diminutive centre forward) is supposed to achieve what? Especially as neither of the wide man rarely goes past their full back or is willing to get involved in physical challenges. As for the midfield Clifton gets worse by the match, Andrews wouldn’t win a tackle against a grannie and Conteh is going backwards after a very promising start. Amos was simply atrocious today and Mullarkey is a backwards step from Efete, he has no pace, no physicality and is not as good going forwards.

Our ball retention and control was non existent and it was like taking candy off a baby. Accrington were as poor as Salford when they visited but we didn’t deserve anything.

Finally Hurst’s post match interview was laughable and bore no reflection of what we are having to watch. Home games last season were a chore and this season they’ve deteriorated even further so for me Hurst goes now it’s so bloody painful to watch that crap.

Finally how was the crowd 6300 plus? More empty seats than any other Saturday game I’ve attended yet our alleged home crowd was higher?

Quoted from davmariner

All managers make mistakes, but that doesn’t mean they can’t turn things around or make the changes needed to stabilise things. It is still early in the season and we are coming off the back of a tough run of fixtures. What’s the point in sacking him now? It’ll just lead to another slump over a run of games that we can pick up points from.

Where did I suggest we sack him?

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Mike Williamson, Kevin Maher, Andy Whing, Phil Parkinson ( Altrincham ) - just 4 options for you. Plenty of managers out of work also and they'll be plenty of managers apply to work with a squad with ours. These aren't bad players, we've seen flashes of brilliance, it's being coached out of them and he's making terrible choices. We can all see that Waterfall is past league football based on performances this season, Maher and Rodgers looked like the next coming of Whittle and Futcher early season. Maher is fully fit and left out? I ain't his biggest fan but Pyke has scored two in two and was dropped for Gnahoua... Holohan has been arguably our best midfielder and is left out for Clifton who's been terrible. Eisa has been invisible since missing that pen. There's 0 patterns of play other than a useless clip into Rose and hope he wins a flick on or we win the second ball. It's terrible football.  

As stated in the Hurst out thread, John Eustace recently sacked by Birmingham might be one to look at, he's got them to play off contenders.

Mullarkey is better going forward than Efete. He can cross the ball, which is a plus, whereas Efete can't. Not sure which is the best defender, but not much in it.

Amos didn't look properly fit to me. Their second goal came after he failed to clear the ball following Maher's tackle and he looked knackered, almost out of it by then.

I don’t want hurst out , I want Rod Jane and Freddie out , these chancers running our club have been well and truly found out . Get em gone . Shove your B Corp up your bottom ….. sideways