Wrexham Saturday

On to the next then. Just over 700 of 1165 sold as of last Thursday, no idea if we’ll do the lot.

Mullin back from his untimely death in the summer, got half an hour at the weekend. Their best CB Hayden went off injured on Saturday with a suspected hamstring issue, physios on their board suggesting anything from 6-8 weeks to being OK for Saturday so…wait & see I suppose.

Wonder if Hurst will stick with what is starting to look like a settled side & system, or might be tempted to change it up a bit to nullify some of their threat. They’ve started the last two with Palmer (6ft 5) and Dalby (6ft 3) up top, with Steven Fletcher now an option too - would it be worth bringing Waterfall in to offer some more aerial presence in there as part of three at the back? Alternatively Mullarkey could shuffle across into the middle and Efete could come in at RWB.

Would also give us the option then of matching up their wingback formation. Ryan Barnett, who Hurst tried to sign a couple of times, plays down the right so it might be worth putting Glennon in to give him something to think about defensively rather than giving him free rein to just attack us all day? Would also help having Maher coming across to cover if he is beaten.

Conteh v Elliot Lee in the middle will be a good battle. If you do go with 5 at the back then who drops out? Eisa in great form despite a quiet one at Bradford, Gnahoua looking better each week. Do you go with 2 up top (Rose & Pyke/A.N.Other), or three behind Rose where you could go with any three of Eisa, Clifton, Gnahoua, Holohan, Hunt, Ainley or even Andrews?

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Hurst change it up, and it would be a similar lineup to the one that started at Barnsley, but who knows. Wish I was there, the first half on Saturday was some of the best I’ve seen us play in years.

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Can we bring Cropper in on loan for this one?!

Love to see Waterfall play and shithouse Mullin all afternoon.

With PH you never know. I personally would play the XI that are starting to get some rhythm about them and gelling. Aslong as Conteh is just infront of the back 2 they've got enough in that area to nullify the boring dull long ball of Wrexham.

Reading an article today about the imminent return of Mullin, and the signing of Fletcher, the exact same thought crossed my mind about bringing Waterfall back in to counter their height. With Mullarkey at full back, it's more or less 4 centre backs, with which to negate their aerial bombardment, plus whoever gets the nod at left back.

Think Hurst may be tempted to go 5-4-1, or possibly 5-3-2 for the reasons mentioned. Plus Waterfall will relish playing against his old club and returning to the scene of one of his triumphs.

Wrexham have started to settle down now and move up the table, so a tough game on the cards. Hope we out football the boring fookers.

I did watch Wrexham v Donny and the Wrexham defence was very poor. The attack looked good but 2-0 flattered them. The 2nd goal was a deflection but they all count. The old saying that league tables don't lie is true but they don't reflect the effort on the pitch and, at times, Wrexham were on the back foot.

The one most boring thing was the number of times Wreham players went down for a free kick, to the extent I switched the extremely biased commentators from Wrexham to Donny at half-time. The so-called Donny commentator was just as bad with his 'Welsh' accent!

I'm looking forward to the match with a town victory, but not the anticipated new Wrexham strip of red trunks to assist their diving capabilities.

If you are playing a team with a weak defence and strong attack then you need to attack them not play 4 central defenders and wait to get battered.

Quoted from HerveJosse

If you are playing a team with a weak defence and strong attack then you need to attack them not play 4 central defenders and wait to get battered.

Very much depends on your approach to the formation, and the personnel.

It can be attacking or defensive. Mullarkey is a de facto centre back playing right back, so we play with three CB's anyway. He also provided the cross for our goal at Bradford.

The only way to get a result at Wrexham is to score 3 goals or more. Can we do that?

I wonder whether the system we used at Barnsley was a trial run for this one. It wouldn't make full sense as we played a second string but in terms of seeing how the ideas were playing out it was a meaningful exercise. I thought that certain parts worked well, so place a full strength 11 in there and perhaps there's a thought in PHs head that it can be the one to undo Wrexham.

Quoted from HerveJosse

The only way to get a result at Wrexham is to score 3 goals or more. Can we do that?

Or don't concede and score one. That would work as well.

Quoted from HerveJosse

The only way to get a result at Wrexham is to score 3 goals or more. Can we do that?

The only way to get a result at Wrexham is to score at least 1 more goal than them. The number we score doesn't really matter, as long as it is that one more than them.

They are definatly settling into lge 2 now i agree with others think we will have to score 3 at least to get a result hope i'm wreng , think we will keep same team as well or certainly the 4-1-4-1 formation may perhaps swap arthur one of new lads

We don't create much anyway so sitting back even more seems like a recipe for defeat. I'd rather we rely on our defence to be solid enough and try and take it to them (in so much as we do).

Shame mullin is back for them even if just as sub.

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All Town aren’t we!

Greetings from North Wales. Its been a while. I don't remember what the result was last time we played, think you might have nicked it  

After a difficult start we seem to be getting better. Attack us with pace and you have every chance. Sit back and that's more than likely to end in defeat.

Hayden is out but we have plenty of more than adequate cover in defence. Tunnicliffe (who btw is actually our best defender) is back and O'Connell is fit to play too.
We now have Mendy and McClean for LWB so we should be almost at full strength, I doubt Mullin will start but I didn't think we'd be seeing him until at least October so you never know. We missed him more than I thought we would.
Most of our home games have been entertaining to say the least. Lee is in outstanding form. As is McClean who ran riot at Tranmere, who looked destined for non league.

Expecting a real battle as usual.

I hope the ref recognises Mullins problem with being unable to stay on his feet once he gets into the opposition penalty area, also he should be very closely watching out for 'the hand of God'.

Quoted from 123614

I hope the ref recognises Mullins problem with being unable to stay on his feet once he gets into the opposition penalty area, also he should be very closely watching out for 'the hand of God'.

All of a sudden I feel sleepy...

From what I've seen from the referees in this league so far the majority couldn't find their own bottom with both hands and are painfully inconsistent and incompetent. No better than the dreadful standard in the National league.

Sir Paul Mullin only plays the way any other professional footballer plays and that includes all of your strikers, who would take any opportunity presented to them to gain an advantage for their team. And they would be daft not to.
This faux morale high ground opposition fans take on this subject continues to be highly amusing due its its glass house nature.

Nah, we've not had any divers for a long while. It's not Hurst's way.

Now, back in the day, Jack Lester was brilliant at wining penalties, most of them valid ones as well. He had a knack of getting the defender to put his foot in just enough to go over whilst keeping the ball away from them.

In comparison, Mullin dives and punches the ball into the goal if he thinks he might get away with it. He's a massive cheat.

Quoted from Maringer

Nah, we've not had any divers for a long while. It's not Hurst's way.

Now, back in the day, Jack Lester was brilliant at wining penalties, most of them valid ones as well. He had a knack of getting the defender to put his foot in just enough to go over whilst keeping the ball away from them.

In comparison, Mullin dives and punches the ball into the goal if he thinks he might get away with it. He's a massive cheat.

I don't know ....

I think Danny Rose can be persuaded

And I like it

Much like Mullin a bit of a shi*house ,something we have missed for a long time.

Quoted from wxm80s

All of a sudden I feel sleepy...

From what I've seen from the referees in this league so far the majority couldn't find their own bottom with both hands and are painfully inconsistent and incompetent. No better than the dreadful standard in the National league.

Sir Paul Mullin only plays the way any other professional footballer plays and that includes all of your strikers, who would take any opportunity presented to them to gain an advantage for their team. And they would be daft not to.
This faux morale high ground opposition fans take on this subject continues to be highly amusing due its its glass house nature.

This is just total boll0cks. There's plenty of evidence that he's far more of a cheat than your average player. Even just the last time we played you, he dived when virtually not touched to win a penalty and then punched another one in to the goal with his hand. Big nosed cheating pr1ck.

I'll rescind all of this and apologise profusely the next time one of our players dives for a penalty and punches the ball in DURING THE SAME GAME. Until then, Mullin is probably the biggest cheat in the lower leagues.

Quoted from Mappers

I don't know ....

I think Danny Rose can be persuaded

And I like it

Much like Mullin a bit of a shi*house ,something we have missed for a long time.

Hmmm. I'm not really sure it's quite the same as Mullin is a player who gets into the box then chucks himself to the floor, whereas Rose is a player who tends to receive the ball with his back to goal and gets pushed and shoved around by bigger defenders. He might go down somewhat theatrically from time to time, but this is only to try and get the useless referees to penalise the opposition for foul play. I don't recall seeing him go down in the box like a sack of spuds to try and win a pen.

Quoted from mariner91

This is just total boll0cks. There's plenty of evidence that he's far more of a cheat than your average player. Even just the last time we played you, he dived when virtually not touched to win a penalty and then punched another one in to the goal with his hand. Big nosed cheating pr1ck.

I'll rescind all of this and apologise profusely the next time one of our players dives for a penalty and punches the ball in DURING THE SAME GAME. Until then, Mullin is probably the biggest cheat in the lower leagues.

To be fair, the ref (Herczeg) missed absolutely everything in that game. Beyond the Mullin dive and handball, he also completely overlooked Crocombe accidentally murdering Hosannah in the box in the first-half and Smith’s foul which paved the way for Waterfall’s winner. Shocking refereeing that we just about got away with on that occasion.

All that said, Mullin is without doubt a bigger cheat than the average bear. Of course, it’s all good when they’re wearing your shirt, but he’s not, so get can get fúcked.

Quoted from Mappers

I don't know ....

I think Danny Rose can be persuaded

And I like it

Much like Mullin a bit of a shi*house ,something we have missed for a long time.

From what I have seen, rose goes down easily, mullin is an out and out diver.

Quoted from Posh Harry

From what I have seen, rose goes down easily, mullin is an out and out diver.

Maybe, but I wish he would just stay on his legs, as a group of lads near me on Saturday were pleading with him. If your going to cheat then do it well. Rose's efforts at shithousery are just embarrassing at times and maybe I'm being old fashioned but it just doesn't seem the Grimsby way?

There's gaining an advantage, and there's blatant cheating. Mullin is in the Luis Suarez school.


The reaction of Waterfall when he scored told you all you need to know about what our players thought of Mullin that day.

Quoted from ginnywings

There's gaining an advantage, and there's blatant cheating. Mullin is in the Luis Suarez school.


The reaction of Waterfall when he scored told you all you need to know about what our players thought of Mullin that day.

I was at the Racecourse that day, but having watched the game back at least 50 times, the image of Waterfall giving it back to Mullin and this poor chump are etched into my mind.

Quoted from ginnywings

There's gaining an advantage, and there's blatant cheating. Mullin is in the Luis Suarez school.


The reaction of Waterfall when he scored told you all you need to know about what our players thought of Mullin that day.

intercourse OFF intercourse OFF intercourse OFF brilliant reaction wasn't it

Blue skies and seagulls lads  

I'm looking forward to seeing all the Grimsby players showing off their halo's on Saturday, it'll be a rare treat.

Don't want to stir up anymore anger, but we have more than one 'shithouse' in our squad.
Tozer, O'Connell, McClean, Tunnicliffe, Cannon, Palmer and Fletcher are all capable at the art of sh!thousery. I'm just glad they play for my team now, as I went about 20 years watching us getting turned over by these exact types of players who you absolutely despise but secretly want.

Quoted from mariner91

This is just total boll0cks. There's plenty of evidence that he's far more of a cheat than your average player. Even just the last time we played you, he dived when virtually not touched to win a penalty and then punched another one in to the goal with his hand. Big nosed cheating pr1ck.

I'll rescind all of this and apologise profusely the next time one of our players dives for a penalty and punches the ball in DURING THE SAME GAME. Until then, Mullin is probably the biggest cheat in the lower leagues.

Mullins in the same mould as the lump that played for Lincoln

Quoted from wxm80s

Blue skies and seagulls lads  

I'm looking forward to seeing all the Grimsby players showing off their halo's on Saturday, it'll be a rare treat.

Don't want to stir up anymore anger, but we have more than one 'shithouse' in our squad.
Tozer, O'Connell, McClean, Tunnicliffe, Cannon, Palmer and Fletcher are all capable at the art of sh!thousery. I'm just glad they play for my team now, as I went about 20 years watching us getting turned over by these exact types of players who you absolutely despise but secretly want.

All-in-all, it’s a lot of money spent to wind up with a squad full of journeymen shíthouses, isn’t it? For context, as much as I don’t like the notion of financial doping in football (see Crawley, Fleetwood, Salford et al), I see Wrexham in a different bracket entirely and don’t begrudge you some success after so many lean years in non-league purgatory. It’s a novel model, and uniquely sustainable, so fair play to your owners or whoever came up with the concept.

But then I think back to the start of 21/22 season. Both Grimsby and Wrexham were starting completely afresh with new owners and, to all intents and purposes, brand new squads. The primary difference being the amount of money you had to spend on assembling your squad being considerably greater than than we had to assemble ours. And yet we overcame Wrexham when it ultimately mattered and subsequently won promotion; for me, that shouldn’t have happened.

I wish Wrexham well, with all of the obvious caveats that come with a comment like that, and I’ll probably stick on the new documentary tonight or tomorrow. I just think you’ve gone in a bit loud and dumb with your recruitment and to a greater extent, your gaffer.

I get that there will always be a degree of “Wrexham tax” to pay whoever it is you’re dealing with, but if you tot up all
of the money that’s been spent on wages and transfer fees, I can’t help but feel a little underwhelmed with what you’ve got at at this stage. Half-a-million for Luke Armstrong was a bullet dodged imo, at least if we’re talking value for money.

You may well beat us on Saturday, like you may well finish above us this season. I just can’t help but feel that you could be so much better than you are right now.

Quoted from wxm80s

All of a sudden I feel sleepy...

From what I've seen from the referees in this league so far the majority couldn't find their own bottom with both hands and are painfully inconsistent and incompetent. No better than the dreadful standard in the National league.

Sir Paul Mullin only plays the way any other professional footballer plays and that includes all of your strikers, who would take any opportunity presented to them to gain an advantage for their team. And they would be daft not to.
This faux morale high ground opposition fans take on this subject continues to be highly amusing due its its glass house nature.

Haha cop out!

Quoted from Poojah

All-in-all, it’s a lot of money spent to wind up with a squad full of journeymen shíthouses, isn’t it? For context, as much as I don’t like the notion of financial doping in football (see Crawley, Fleetwood, Salford et al), I see Wrexham in a different bracket entirely and don’t begrudge you some success after so many lean years in non-league purgatory. It’s a novel model, and uniquely sustainable, so fair play to your owners or whoever came up with the concept.

But then I think back to the start of 21/22 season. Both Grimsby and Wrexham were starting completely afresh with new owners and, to all intents and purposes, brand new squads. The primary difference being the amount of money you had to spend on assembling your squad being considerably greater than than we had to assemble ours. And yet we overcame Wrexham when it ultimately mattered and subsequently won promotion; for me, that shouldn’t have happened.

I wish Wrexham well, with all of the obvious caveats that come with a comment like that, and I’ll probably stick on the new documentary tonight or tomorrow. I just think you’ve gone in a bit loud and dumb with your recruitment and to a greater extent, your gaffer.

I get that there will always be a degree of “Wrexham tax” to pay whoever it is you’re dealing with, but if you tot up all
of the money that’s been spent on wages and transfer fees, I can’t help but feel a little underwhelmed with what you’ve got at at this stage. Half-a-million for Luke Armstrong was a bullet dodged imo, at least if we’re talking value for money.

You may well beat us on Saturday, like you may well finish above us this season. I just can’t help but feel that you could be so much better than you are right now.

Hmm not sure we have a squad full of "journeymen shithouses". We have a few but they're also very good players still. McClean from what I've seen of him as one example would get into most teams in this league if not all and the league above.

Our summer transfers clearly didn't go to plan and I'm sure lessons would've been learnt. Hence the last day of the transfer window debacle which must have been embarrassing for the owners when they have Shaun Harvey ex EFL chief exec running the club. It can't and won't all go swimmingly.
A lot of Wrexham fans are just happy to be back in the league now and would be content with season or two here to if nothing else see off some of the bandwagoners. I don't see that happening though in terms of the demand for tickets.

Who knows if we could be better? Its impossible to judge. You could say the same about a lot of clubs. We just won the National league with a record points total and won all bar one game at home which we drew, so despite our iffy start to this season I find it hard to be critical at this stage.

Other fans keep banging on about Parkinson "the dinosaur" etc but he has a far better record than many other managers in this division. For example Luke Williams of Notts who they think is the next Pep. Yet Parkinson's tactics against them were spot on and had it not been for sickeningly incompetent linesman in the game at the Racecourse we could've been out of sight by half time.
Plus he has to deal with the circus that surrounds the club and the camera crews which he doesn't like. Yes he's had money but so did a lot of other managers at other clubs like Luton, FGR etc in the conference and FGR in particular struggled for years. Basically his record speaks for itself and I'm more than happy with him for now.

Quoted from wxm80s

Hmm not sure we have a squad full of "journeymen shithouses". We have a few but they're also very good players still. McClean from what I've seen of him as one example would get into most teams in this league if not all and the league above.

Our summer transfers clearly didn't go to plan and I'm sure lessons would've been learnt. Hence the last day of the transfer window debacle which must have been embarrassing for the owners when they have Shaun Harvey ex EFL chief exec running the club. It can't and won't all go swimmingly.
A lot of Wrexham fans are just happy to be back in the league now and would be content with season or two here to if nothing else see off some of the bandwagoners. I don't see that happening though in terms of the demand for tickets.

Who knows if we could be better? Its impossible to judge. You could say the same about a lot of clubs. We just won the National league with a record points total and won all bar one game at home which we drew, so despite our iffy start to this season I find it hard to be critical at this stage.

Other fans keep banging on about Parkinson "the dinosaur" etc but he has a far better record than many other managers in this division. For example Luke Williams of Notts who they think is the next Pep. Yet Parkinson's tactics against them were spot on and had it not been for sickeningly incompetent linesman in the game at the Racecourse we could've been out of sight by half time.
Plus he has to deal with the circus that surrounds the club and the camera crews which he doesn't like. Yes he's had money but so did a lot of other managers at other clubs like Luton, FGR etc in the conference and FGR in particular struggled for years. Basically his record speaks for itself and I'm more than happy with him for now.

It was you that put forward the suggestion of a squad full of shíthouse bástards, not me.

No doubting you’ve got some good players - I’m just not sure I see a whole lot of future thinking in your recruitment. Older players, on big money seems to be the order of the day. If it works, it works, I just don’t see a squad with a great deal of resale value relative to what it cost to acquire. You ain’t getting your £300k back for Ollie Palmer, that’s for sure.

As I’ve said already, I am, at the very worst, ambivalent towards Wrexham. It’s just my objective opinion that, from the outside looking in, the approach taken is arguably not the best or fastest in the long-run. Your record season is all fine and well, but it was ultimately made possible thanks to abject failure the season before. And it was “abject” - that division should have been yours for the taking, circus or not.

Quoted from wxm80s

Hmm not sure we have a squad full of "journeymen shithouses". We have a few but they're also very good players still. McClean from what I've seen of him as one example would get into most teams in this league if not all and the league above.

Of course he would, he was literally a first team player in the Championship last season?

And i'm sure you are paying him accordingly  

Quoted from sam gy

Of course he would, he was literally a first team player in the Championship last season?

And i'm sure you are paying him accordingly  

He too is ‘buying into the project’, is he?

Quoted from wxm80s

Hmm not sure we have a squad full of "journeymen shithouses". We have a few but they're also very good players still. McClean from what I've seen of him as one example would get into most teams in this league if not all and the league above.

Our summer transfers clearly didn't go to plan and I'm sure lessons would've been learnt. Hence the last day of the transfer window debacle which must have been embarrassing for the owners when they have Shaun Harvey ex EFL chief exec running the club. It can't and won't all go swimmingly.
A lot of Wrexham fans are just happy to be back in the league now and would be content with season or two here to if nothing else see off some of the bandwagoners. I don't see that happening though in terms of the demand for tickets.

Who knows if we could be better? Its impossible to judge. You could say the same about a lot of clubs. We just won the National league with a record points total and won all bar one game at home which we drew, so despite our iffy start to this season I find it hard to be critical at this stage.

Other fans keep banging on about Parkinson "the dinosaur" etc but he has a far better record than many other managers in this division. For example Luke Williams of Notts who they think is the next Pep. Yet Parkinson's tactics against them were spot on and had it not been for sickeningly incompetent linesman in the game at the Racecourse we could've been out of sight by half time.
Plus he has to deal with the circus that surrounds the club and the camera crews which he doesn't like. Yes he's had money but so did a lot of other managers at other clubs like Luton, FGR etc in the conference and FGR in particular struggled for years. Basically his record speaks for itself and I'm more than happy with him for now.

Pretty sure that whatever label they get tagged with they will be victorious on Saturday.....we are due a loss and your other posts  encouraging words of "attack us with pace and don't sit back" is pretty much the exact opposite of what we will offer so a a handsome home win will be my prediction for this one.

I’d gladly have Mullins in a town shirt .

Quoted from wxm80s

Greetings from North Wales. Its been a while. I don't remember what the result was last time we played, think you might have nicked it  

After a difficult start we seem to be getting better. Attack us with pace and you have every chance. Sit back and that's more than likely to end in defeat.

Hayden is out but we have plenty of more than adequate cover in defence. Tunnicliffe (who btw is actually our best defender) is back and O'Connell is fit to play too.
We now have Mendy and McClean for LWB so we should be almost at full strength, I doubt Mullin will start but I didn't think we'd be seeing him until at least October so you never know. We missed him more than I thought we would.
Most of our home games have been entertaining to say the least. Lee is in outstanding form. As is McClean who ran riot at Tranmere, who looked destined for non league.

Expecting a real battle as usual.

Not the friendliest welcome for you I see mate lol.

Going to be very tricky for us i think but we are capable.

I personally hope we don't change formation, if we can get support to Rose and get our wingers motoring we can do some damage.
Wrexham are strong going forward but our defence is more than decent now.

Should be an interesting one.

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Call me an old git if you want…..

Modern society is Wrexham society.

I don’t like it, but I have no choice other than to put up with it. And resent it.  Or curl up and die.

Personally I think things can only get worse……

I’m non-plussed about Wrexham if I’m honest - nothing against them or their owners. One thing I would say is the owners have done a lot of good - not just for the club, but the community - and look like they are in it for the long haul. Even the amounts they are spending and paying on salaries - ridiculous for League 2 imho - but there’s nothing to say it’s wrong. If they can afford it and aren’t breaking any rules then fair play/good luck to them. We’ve seen owners with money before end up breaking a club, I genuinely think these two won’t ever do that, think that whatever happens they’ll ensure the clubs future is secure long after they’ve departed.

The two things  people don’t tend to like are the ‘underdog’ tag which has been used..and the overkill coverage in media and tv. Can’t blame the owners/club for that - all part of the game and growing their support globally. The documentary was largely enjoyable, sometimes a bit cringe (the explanations to American followers) but again part of the plan so fair play - think it’s worked thus far. And I liked the way they tried to get players known away from football, and their stories, both successful, not so and sad (the lad who lost their child) .

Think that play off game will be etched in the memory for life, for both Town and Wrexham fans - and Mullin does test the patience of fans of other clubs, gets away with a lot and more in all honesty. There’s no defence for pinching a ball into the net, and knowing you’ve done it - but as has been said plenty players before and after will get away with what they can.

Saturday?? Don’t honestly know what to expect..head is saying we might get a pasting..heart is saying we can get something. If we go and invite pressure we’ll get found out, as good as our centre backs have been thus far. Sides will look to exploit us down our left side, anyone with pace will have some joy. And Wrexham look a lot stronger in some areas than previously. But I’ve never really been impressed with them the other way - concede far too many..and that’s why I hope we go and have a go. A Hurst team rarely gets a battering..so I’m going to go for us nicking a goal, then coming back and getting a 2-1 win. But in all honesty I wouldn’t be surprised at any result. Hope all those going enjoy it, and it’s good to see fans of other clubs on here. (IMO)

I’d say, more than anything else, that a certain quantity of the Wrexham players are nothing more than Bosman transfer mercenaries. Which, is a shame as I don’t actually mind the ‘gogs’. Very similar town to ourselves I guess, who have also had their fair share of troubled times. Am actually pleased that some of their players don’t play for town. Am sure that many town supporters wouldn’t watch town if that was the case

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Am actually pleased that some of their players don’t play for town. Am sure that many town supporters wouldn’t watch town if that was the case

Ahem......
"  Ohhhh Richard Brodie...used to be a w@nker but he's alright now "
Town fans like the vast majority of football fans can be very fickle.

The one thing I shall never forget are the Wrexham fans who dug into their own pockets to pay for Town fans to go to our promotion Game. You don't have to like all about Wrexham ( or be envious ) but they have some decent folk there.

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It was you that put forward the suggestion of a squad full of shíthouse bástards, not me.

No doubting you’ve got some good players - I’m just not sure I see a whole lot of future thinking in your recruitment. Older players, on big money seems to be the order of the day. If it works, it works, I just don’t see a squad with a great deal of resale value relative to what it cost to acquire. You ain’t getting your £300k back for Ollie Palmer, that’s for sure.

As I’ve said already, I am, at the very worst, ambivalent towards Wrexham. It’s just my objective opinion that, from the outside looking in, the approach taken is arguably not the best or fastest in the long-run. Your record season is all fine and well, but it was ultimately made possible thanks to abject failure the season before. And it was “abject” - that division should have been yours for the taking, circus or not.

Ok, cool. I don't agree but we are viewing it from very different places. But, no I didn't.  Read my post back again. You used the words 'squad full of' and 'journeyman', not me.

Not sure you need to think for the future when recruiting. What's that all about? Everyone wants success now, surely.

We don't need resale value as the club is making money elsewhere to fund the squad. That's the whole point of it. Saying that we have plenty of players we could sell and make huge profit on, for example we signed Mullin and Lee on free's and there are plenty of others.

I don’t have a problem with Wrexham and their ‘real fans’. I don’t have a problem with Paul Mullin and secretly wish he was a Mullins. It’s just the media portrayal of it being a fairytale and concerns where this is all heading.

There was interesting piece on the Savannah Bananas the other day that referenced Wrexham:

Perhaps the closest parallel to the Bananas in the UK is Wrexham, whose evolution from backwater community football club to global entertainment brand is well under way. Over the summer, powered by their Hollywood stardust and Disney+ documentary, Wrexham have signed a clutch of lucrative commercial deals with the likes of United Airlines, Danone and HP (the electronics conglomerate, not the sauce). Exhibition games in North Carolina, California and Pennsylvania were packed out, with tickets going for up to £400. They are predicted to turn over around £20m this season, which would put them ahead of many Championship clubs.

If you think about it, does any of this income really rely on Wrexham playing League Two games at Barrow and Sutton? Perhaps the long-term goal is to work their way up the divisions and haul themselves into the Premier League, a fraught and fragile objective that could be derailed by any of a thousand external factors. But surely the more innovative play here is to reinvent themselves entirely as an A-list touring commodity, establish a standalone brand with a string of hand-picked opponents and eye-catching celebrity cameos, and teach Paul Mullin to dance. If you’re a prospective investor, which model of success makes more sense to you?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2023/sep/12/savannah-bananas-future-of-sport

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Saturday?? Don’t honestly know what to expect..head is saying we might get a pasting..heart is saying we can get something. If we go and invite pressure we’ll get found out, as good as our centre backs have been thus far. Sides will look to exploit us down our left side, anyone with pace will have some joy. And Wrexham look a lot stronger in some areas than previously. But I’ve never really been impressed with them the other way - concede far too many..and that’s why I hope we go and have a go. A Hurst team rarely gets a battering..so I’m going to go for us nicking a goal, then coming back and getting a 2-1 win. But in all honesty I wouldn’t be surprised at any result. Hope all those going enjoy it, and it’s good to see fans of other clubs on here. (IMO)

You can definitely get something from the game if you have a go. Our defence isn't settled yet and struggles with pacey players running at them. Sitting back just doesn't work, but fair play if you do that and get a result.

Mk Don's attacked us with pace and their forwards destroyed us. We were all over the shop. Same against Swindon but they weren't as good and we managed to salvage a draw.  Since then its got a lot better and we're haven't been wide open in games, just odd moments during games where we ride our luck.

Barnett is very good in the RWB role, pacey, tricky and usually has the beating of his opponent and puts in good crosses. So your left back needs to be able to deal with that.

League 2 is a definite step up. People who say there isn't much difference between the National League and League 2 are way off. It surprised me. Every team we've played so far has been highly competitive bar Tranmere. They're in big trouble from what I saw.

So I'm not sure at all about Saturday tbh. A 2-2 wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Ideal scenario is that Mullin dives in the last minute, wins a penalty and scores the winning goal.  

Quoted from wxm80s

Ok, cool. I don't agree but we are viewing it from very different places. But, no I didn't.  Read my post back again. You used the words 'squad full of' and 'journeyman', not me.

Not sure you need to think for the future when recruiting. What's that all about? Everyone wants success now, surely.

We don't need resale value as the club is making money elsewhere to fund the squad. That's the whole point of it. Saying that we have plenty of players we could sell and make huge profit on, for example we signed Mullin and Lee on free's and there are plenty of others.

Right mate, you reeled off the names of 7 players, plus Mullin, who you described as “shíthouses”. 8 in total. 8 out of a potential starting 11 constitutes a “squad full” to my mind. It’s certainly an above average number, isn’t it?

Of those 8 players, I’d argue most of them could be described as “journeymen”, but if you’re not happy with that, let’s go with “mercenaries” instead. I think we can all agree that that’s an indisputable description; they sure as shít ain’t moving to north Wales for the rarebit, are they?

So there we go then - “Wrexham have a squad full of shíthouse mercenaries”, or “Wrexham have a squad full of mercenary shíthouses”.

Which one do you want to sign off on?

Quoted from wxm80s

You can definitely get something from the game if you have a go. Our defence isn't settled yet and struggles with pacey players running at them. Sitting back just doesn't work, but fair play if you do that and get a result.

Mk Don's attacked us with pace and their forwards destroyed us. We were all over the shop. Same against Swindon but they weren't as good and we managed to salvage a draw.  Since then its got a lot better and we're haven't been wide open in games, just odd moments during games where we ride our luck.

Barnett is very good in the RWB role, pacey, tricky and usually has the beating of his opponent and puts in good crosses. So your left back needs to be able to deal with that.

League 2 is a definite step up. People who say there isn't much difference between the National League and League 2 are way off. It surprised me. Every team we've played so far has been highly competitive bar Tranmere. They're in big trouble from what I saw.

So I'm not sure at all about Saturday tbh. A 2-2 wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Ideal scenario is that Mullin dives in the last minute, wins a penalty and scores the winning goal.  

certainly not our strongest area!

On the 28th May 2022, we played a fancied side whose promotion jubilations were already prepared. Then unfortunately the underdogs scored again and again and again and again and again. This was not the script Netfix put out but the 5 - 4 thrashing on their own turf made them play another season in the NL.

Whatever Wrexham do they had better not underestimate a Town side, nor the away support they will bring.

7-0 then Saturday. Barnett x 6, Mullin x 1

Quoted from Hagrid

certainly not our strongest area!

Roll out the Anfield Tactical Plan then - play 2 left backs…worked on the night, although needed extra time to finally overcome the plucky opposition tbf.

Quoted from Poojah

Right mate, you reeled off the names of 7 players, plus Mullin, who you described as “shíthouses”. 8 in total. 8 out of a potential starting 11 constitutes a “squad full” to my mind. It’s certainly an above average number, isn’t it?

Of those 8 players, I’d argue most of them could be described as “journeymen”, but if you’re not happy with that, let’s go with “mercenaries” instead. I think we can all agree that that’s an indisputable description; they sure as shít ain’t moving to north Wales for the rarebit, are they?

So there we go then - “Wrexham have a squad full of shíthouse mercenaries”, or “Wrexham have a squad full of mercenary shíthouses”.

Which one do you want to sign off on?

Funny. I can't take you seriously after this post. I haven't got the mental energy to keep correcting you. Enjoy the game on Saturday mate.  

Quoted from wxm80s

Funny. I can't take you seriously after this post. I haven't got the mental energy to keep correcting you. Enjoy the game on Saturday mate.  

Lazy. You sound like the physical manifestation of your club’s transfer policy.

I for one enjoyed wxm80s original post. Honest, well meaning appraisal.

We may not see eye to eye with supporters of other clubs and healthy banter is a good thing.

UTM

Marinerjase I agree with your views and assessments.

Although “any score possible” could never realistically be 4-5 could it? 🤫😃

Wrexham have very little control over how, and how frequently, the media portray them (bar Netflix).  

After 16 years in the wilderness, I am sure many Wrexham fans would have welcomed a few years in NL obscurity and then “no fuss” years in the EFL.  No belles, whistles, excess mania and without the media circus.  

I have a lot of time for the hardcore Wrexham fans who who came to BP for a night game about 10 years ago.  We won 1-0 in a good game with a well-taken Ross Hannah goal late on. (From memory anyway).

Think it was more convincing than 1-0 if memory serves me right, Hannah finished his goal very well though.

Quoted from marinerjase

Think it was more convincing than 1-0 if memory serves me right, Hannah finished his goal very well though.

It was 1-0 (goal at 6:50). Sent us top at the time.

Sorry to take us off topic, but anyone know what the away pubs will be for Saturday? Imagine most of those near the ground will be home fans only

Quoted from Poojah

It was 1-0 (goal at 6:50). Sent us top at the time.

Is there an archive of matches from back then, I just love the commentary.

Quoted from 123614

Is there an archive of matches from back then, I just love the commentary.

There’s some cracking videos on this YouTube channel here:

https://youtube.com/@GrimsbyTownClassic?si=r-NuG5rcqj-JHaCJ

The OnThisGTFCDay Twitter account is also well worth a look:

https://twitter.com/onthisGTFCday

Thanks mate.

Quoted from Poojah

Lazy. You sound like the physical manifestation of your club’s transfer policy.

Tidy. It worked pretty well for us last season.

Quoted from Poojah

It was 1-0 (goal at 6:50). Sent us top at the time.

I was at this game. We were terrible that night. Long way home after a dour 1 nil defeat.

Quoted from wxm80s

Tidy. It worked pretty well for us last season.

At least twice (or maybe even thrice) the combined transfer and wage bill of the next spendiest club; of course it fúcking worked. That whatever strategy was employed was sufficient to get promoted last season is indisputable fact. I’ve merely questioned whether it was the most efficient or effective long-term use of that budget, and whilst it may not matter a jot today, it might tomorrow.

The same approach will no doubt work at this level, be it this season or next. My supposition is merely that once you start to encounter a slew of clubs with 20k+ attendances and revenue streams to match, you may need to adopt a strategy more cerebral than is likely to be the product of a Shaun Harvey / Phil Parkinson dream team.

I would suggest that the long-term success of this “project” may depend on how quickly you can get through the leagues before interest in the documentary ultimately wanes (and it will, at some point, like all good TV shows). It’s at this point that a lack of prior future planning runs the risk of biting you on the árse.

This place is like a Wrexham forum at times, was only a matter of time until they started signing up.

I don't get why so many on here are triggered by them. It's all a bit cringey their American following but it is what it is, discussing it is a bit tiresome now for us, can't imagine what it's like for their actual fans.

I've got a lot of time for them as a club and a set of fans after the playoff match. A match that is obviously a much bigger deal for us than it is for them too. That's been and gone now though. Both sides are stronger than they were then, I think it will be a tight match on Saturday and probably a very stressful one to watch. They go into it as massive favourites but that exact situation is when we come into our own. I don't think we should fear any match in this division, but this is about as difficult as it comes at this level this season so we might well need to be at our best to get something.

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This place is like a Wrexham forum at times, was only a matter of time until they started signing up.

I don't get why so many on here are triggered by them. It's all a bit cringey their American following but it is what it is, discussing it is a bit tiresome now for us, can't imagine what it's like for their actual fans.

Exactly, must be boring as fúck for them having the same conversation every week. Be like us logging on somewhere and seeing all the fish puns. I thought their lad on the DN35 Podcast covered it well this week when he said that there are loads of football fans in America with no football club to support, and Wrexham are basically becoming a bit of a magnet for those people.

Not like it’s a new phenomenon either, the owners have been in for about 3 or more years now, surely most people have got over the initial shock?

Hope we stick with the same approach of trying to dominate the ball and try to put them under pressure. I'd be very disappointed if we play the 5-2-2-1 formation we've used in cup games last season and at Barnsley last week (with the back 3, wingbacks and the box midfield).

That was alright for playing against Luton, Southampton and Brighton, but this is a team in our league who appear to be pretty shite in defence, and I hope our tactics on Saturday don't reflect the pessimism shown by some fans on here and elsewhere.

Quoted from Tommy

Hope we stick with the same approach of trying to dominate the ball and try to put them under pressure. I'd be very disappointed if we play the 5-2-2-1 formation we've used in cup games last season and at Barnsley last week (with the back 3, wingbacks and the box midfield).

That was alright for playing against Luton, Southampton and Brighton, but this is a team in our league who appear to be pretty shite in defence, and I hope our tactics on Saturday don't reflect the pessimism shown by some fans on here and elsewhere.

Totally agree with you.
We need to play like we have done recently, give them something to worry about.
We have the players to control games and cause problems
I really hope we don't just sit back, we have much more chance of getting a result if we put them under pressure.

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Ahem......
"  Ohhhh Richard Brodie...used to be a w@nker but he's alright now "
Town fans like the vast majority of football fans can be very fickle.

Oh god! I’ll get my coat!

His performance at Nuneaton just before we played at Wembley (I think the Wrexham game) was up there with the sh1test performances by an outfield player I’ve ever seen.

Word of warning for those travelling by coach.

Last Saturday the Doncaster fans were made to wait at Chester Services for a good hour or so before then being escorted into Wrexham and made to go straight into the ground. They had no time to go and find a pub etc at that point thanks to the police.

North Wales Police are, with regards to policing football, incompetent scared little jobsworth cretins who get everything wrong. So be warned.

The Doncaster fans said no alcohol was on sale in the away end. Not sure if this was the club or police's choice but that's pretty poor treatment of away fans overall. Given that there's zero history of trouble (with Doncaster) in the last 20 odd years, as I think we've only played each 2 or 3 times (and that was when we were in League One so yonks ago) its a real head scratcher from NWP. But like I've said, that's nothing new.

No Hursty presser for this one, yet?

Quoted from Tommy

Hope we stick with the same approach of trying to dominate the ball and try to put them under pressure. I'd be very disappointed if we play the 5-2-2-1 formation we've used in cup games last season and at Barnsley last week (with the back 3, wingbacks and the box midfield).

That was alright for playing against Luton, Southampton and Brighton, but this is a team in our league who appear to be pretty shite in defence, and I hope our tactics on Saturday don't reflect the pessimism shown by some fans on here and elsewhere.

100% agree with this. They're no world beaters as their goals against column shows. Sitting back invites them to do what they do best which is attack and is basically asking to be beaten.

I wonder if we do switch to 5 at the back purely to accommodate Waterfall, who is more than decent against big men and LOVES to soccer a header against Wrexham.

Quoted from wxm80s

North Wales Police are, with regards to policing football, incompetent scared little jobsworth cretins who get everything wrong. So be warned.

I think you could probably replace 'North Wales Police' with most of the other constabularies we encounter as GTFC fans and still be correct...

Definitely don't want any changes to be honest, Wrexham aren't all that.

Maher and Rodgers are doing incredibly well at the minute, do we really need to disrupt what they've got going on just to slot Waterfall in because Wrexham have got a couple of bigger lads?  Have we found ourselves dominated aerially so far?  

Wrexham are there to be got at.  Let's go with that quick tempo, high press and fluid movement that served us well in the first half against Bradford.  Conditions are more favourable for that tactic and I fancy Wrexham would be less equipped to deal with it than Bradford.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Definitely don't want any changes to be honest, Wrexham aren't all that.

Maher and Rodgers are doing incredibly well at the minute, do we really need to disrupt what they've got going on just to slot Waterfall in because Wrexham have got a couple of bigger lads?  Have we found ourselves dominated aerially so far?  

Wrexham are there to be got at.  Let's go with that quick tempo, high press and fluid movement that served us well in the first half against Bradford.  Conditions are more favourable for that tactic and I fancy Wrexham would be less equipped to deal with it than Bradford.

I've flip-flopped in my mind a few times about this, but I think I've settled on the above as the right answer. I think Wrexham's reputation precedes them a little bit, but on their last two outings they've had narrow wins against Tranmere and Doncaster who are third from bottom and bottom respectively. They've also got the second worst defensive record in the league, averaging 2.1 goals against per game.

I'm pretty confident in our back four and goalkeeper at the minute, and I think that whilst Wrexham will inevitably come at us a lot more than Bradford were able to last weekend, they will also be a lot more generous in their own defensive third. Be bold, play our own game, press like there's no tomorrow and see what happens.

I think this is too close to call, personally, but I am in no doubt we have the ability to get something from the game.

Mullin might start. It wouldn't surprise me, as I saw him in the local swimming pool practising his diving whilst listening to the hand of god Maradona commentary.

Quoted from wxm80s

Mullin might start. It wouldn't surprise me, as I saw him in the local swimming pool practising his diving whilst listening to the hand of god Maradona commentary.

surprised you didnt mistake him for a shark with that big nose of his

Quoted from wxm80s

Mullin might start. It wouldn't surprise me, as I saw him in the local swimming pool practising his diving whilst listening to the hand of god Maradona commentary.

Top marks for banter.

Quoted from Hagrid

surprised you didnt mistake him for a shark with that big nose of his

"Paul Mullin, your nose is offside"

If hurst changes to 5 at the back I can see this place going into complete meltdown (unless we win of course 🙂)

Quoted from wxm80s

Mullin might start. It wouldn't surprise me, as I saw him in the local swimming pool practising his diving whilst listening to the hand of god Maradona commentary.

                                                     😂

Pearson makes a comeback against his old club because we are getting battered, speaks to Mullin have mercy on us Paul. The result a 4nil thrashing it's on the cards. But there again?

Remember this, Phil Parkinson complaining about the ref that gave his team a penalty after Mullin clearly dived and then also awarded his team a goal after Mullin pushed the ball into the net with his hand, embarrassing...

Quoted from promotion plaice

Remember this, Phil Parkinson complaining about the ref that gave his team a penalty after Mullin clearly dived and then also awarded his team a goal after Mullin pushed the ball into the net with his hand, embarrassing...

“I felt we’d win today”.

Lol.

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Wrexham has a university!!
Bsc in Diving and Histrionics?

Wrexham University? Did I read this correctly?

Well, if their fans like banter, this must be an oxy (Welsh) moron?

As in:

Military intelligence, Chelsea’s effective recruitment policy, Scunthorpe fans believing that they have a viable and sustainable business model and Hurst makes numerous early substitutions.  

Do they teach the locals advanced level English at this university?   And basic numbers up to 4-5?😇

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OH MY GOD. NO FLASKS ALLOWED!!!!  

Think we will need at least two goals to get anything out of the game
They score lots but concede lots
We need to take every chance that comes our way - something we so often don't do; cash in when we are on top

I think Fenty has jumped in with the Hollywoods, FLASKS are banned.
Thanks for sticking that up Tagg, even less carparking has made my mind up and will be heading for Ruabon instead then catching a 10 min train to the ground.