More fans in attacks.

Quoted from RonMariner

At the end of the day the clubs are responsible for crowd control within their stadiums.  In crucial games such as play off matches, they need to ensure they have adequate stewarding and police in attendance. If they don't then I am afraid they must accept that there will be consequences.

I think the scenes we have seen this last week would justify a penalty of playing a few games behind closed doors. Of perhaps a points deduction. The latter especially in cases where opposition staff or players are assaulted.

Whoever it is that makes up the rules about having to have Play Offs (to make it more exciting), should be accountable for the crowd control needed to exercise the rules they have decided. Imo

Just stay off the pitch unless you're a simpleton.If you're a simpleton then go on the pitch and blame someone else for you been allowed to get on there ...... Ffs

Quoted from Teestogreen

Whoever it is that makes up the rules about having to have Play Offs (to make it more exciting), should be accountable for the crowd control needed to exercise the rules they have decided. Imo

People should be able to sit down for 2 hours and watch a bunch of men kick a bag of air around without acting like total cretins. Or should events be stopped altogether so that no crowd trouble can possibly happen?

Quoted from pen penfras

People should be able to sit down for 2 hours and watch a bunch of men kick a bag of air around without acting like total cretins. Or should events be stopped altogether so that no crowd trouble can possibly happen?

First sentence - yes
Second sentence - no

A couple of shoulds. What actually happens can be totally different

Quoted from Teestogreen

First sentence - yes
Second sentence - no

A couple of shoulds. What actually happens can be totally different

Yea, but you can't blame the people who organise an event for the behaviour of the people that attend it. You can say it's not been managed correctly, however there's a royal whingeathon on here every time there's a restriction put in place at a game.

Management is low down the controls of risk assessment.

So thousands of people have taken part in celebratory pitch invasions across the country, 3 people have been bellends…not entirely sure that’s the organisers of a competitions fault, nor is it the fault of fans.

It’s the fault of the morons and nobody else, and whilst we can talk about societal shifts and cultural changes and so forth, in this context all I saw in the case of Sharp was a fat moron running full pelt and pushing him over…nothing else can be blamed for that other than the person doing it…

Quoted from Teestogreen

Ask Billy Sharp if he is excited? F.A. need to protect the players - employees of football clubs - or just drop the idea of Play Offs altogether imo

Why not just drop the idea of promotion and relegation altogether in order to prevent any risk of emotion in the crowd...? Job done

Quoted from toontown

Why not just drop the idea of promotion and relegation altogether in order to prevent any risk of emotion in the crowd...? Job done

This is an excellent idea, so much so I think the decision should be backdated to about 2002 or, even better, about 1939.

Quoted from aldi_01

So thousands of people have taken part in celebratory pitch invasions across the country, 3 people have been bellends…not entirely sure that’s the organisers of a competitions fault, nor is it the fault of fans.

It’s the fault of the morons and nobody else, and whilst we can talk about societal shifts and cultural changes and so forth, in this context all I saw in the case of Sharp was a fat moron running full pelt and pushing him over…nothing else can be blamed for that other than the person doing it…

Ok to take this point one stage further. A person who owns a BMW ( or any other car ) decides to drink in excess of the drink drive limit and ends up losing control of his car and kills two pedestrians. Who is to blame ? The car manufacturer for producing a powerful car? The person/persons who served him the drink ? The highway authority for building the road so they could drive the car on an appropriate surface ? The petrol station for providing the fuel? Or ,heaven forbid, the driver who knew what he was doing was wrong but did it anyway ?
All I know is that, regardless of the circumstances, you don't drink and drive . Also, as a spectator at a football ground,  you don't go on the pitch. If fans can't be trusted to follow this simple instruction then, sadly , the only alternative is to put up means to prevent them accessing the pitch.