More police corruption then.

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Incidentally I know what it's like to be stereotyped and how frustrating and angry this can make one feel. I had a tattoo for example when younger and hate it. I had it done in my teens when I was disturbed as I was going through a lot of stuff. Iam in the process of looking at getting it removed .When some see you in the swimming pool or at the sea you can tell your being judged negativley. You want to put them in my shoes from day one and then judge me. Some people don't have a clue about life. I've heard similar from homeless people who are on the streets due to suffering a breakdown eg loosing a child which depresses them and then can't cope and loose their job and house. Some on the street I've read from Salvation army pamphlets are judged negativley and all they want is a bit of love and kindness . Wish more people in life showed this as thus the world would be a far more beautiful place.

A truthful post earns you a gold star. I failed to see why you got any red crosses.

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A truthful post earns you a gold star. I failed to see why you got any red crosses.
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DB thanks once again. God bless your soul my friend.

As many know I believe in Jesus Christ and to that end I know many scriptures. I have read what has been posted about Rick and the information he has gleaned over time in pursuit of his degree.

I am fortunate that I can refer to my Holy Bible if somebody wants chapter and verse. Unfortunately for Rick, as he explains, he has seen volumes of books whose titles may now evade him. It does not mean that what he posts is not accurate.

On a personal note, I obtained a Goods Vehicle Operators Licence several years ago. To pass I had to know how to transport animals, dangerous goods, heavy earth moving equipment, bulk liquids including hazardous liquids etc. Do I remember any of it now in detail?, no but I do remember bits and pieces and that is what Rick remembers. The bits to help us understand his posts.

So, did this man kill Dalian Atkinson because he’s not wired up right, had a bad upbringing, or because he is in a position to do so with an underlying culture which deems this kind of action par for the course?

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So, did this man kill Dalian Atkinson because he’s not wired up right, had a bad upbringing, or because he is in a position to do so with an underlying culture which deems this kind of action par for the course?

Because Ska face admittedly some police do abuse their authority . Its the same in any walk of life eg you get bad apples .Ive seen it myself when I worked in a special  needs school as a volunteer. One teacher in particular had very little empathy and was cold . Police is a difficult job though as stated . Your constantly dealing with law breakers and have to know when to use appropriate force which restrains and defends oneself.

Someone told me about this story today which further highlights  the difficult job police put themselves under.  2 suspected drug dealers held down a policeperson trying to make a arrest and tried to cut his throat. Shows how dangerous the job is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/22/police-launch-manhunt-officer-gets-throat-cut/

Incidentally I was in Sheffield yesterday in the town centre and there were a fair  amount of homeless/drugs people in the city centre which surprised me. I saw police making a arrest on one such individual who tried to run away from them. To be fair to them they dealt with the incident well.

You might get a bit further if you finish the ‘bad apples’ idiom. It isn’t “there are a few bad apples, the rest are still really good”.

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You might get a bit further if you finish the ‘bad apples’ idiom. It isn’t “there are a few bad apples, the rest are still really good”.

I have been a supporter of the police in the past but my support has been eroded for many reasons. So to that end I would amend your above idiom to 'there are a few good apples but the rest are rotten'.

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You might get a bit further if you finish the ‘bad apples’ idiom. It isn’t “there are a few bad apples, the rest are still really good”.

Yes you nearly took the words out of my mouth. I would like to  believe most police are good and some really good. Perhaps if you feel so concerned about the police why not try joining up and make a difference. As a young adult Ive had a fair few encounters with the police both here and abroad and some are very decent people . I admit you do get some that abuse their authority though and Ive been a victim of that as well.

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I have been a supporter of the police in the past but my support has been eroded for many reasons.

Surprised and saddened to hear that DB.

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Yes you nearly took the words out of my mouth. I would like to  believe most police are good and some really good. Perhaps if you feel so concerned about the police why not try joining up and make a difference. As a young adult Ive had a fair few encounters with the police both here and abroad and some are very decent people . I admit you do get some that abuse their authority though and Ive been a victim of that as well.

Surprised and saddened to hear that DB.

I do believe in law and order, it's just the way it's managed.

The Dalian Atkinson trial doesn't help matters either. To cut a story short I met a policeman's brother in law (ex-car salesman), who told me he joined the police for a reliable wage and pension. He asked him what he did when trouble broke out 'always make sure I'm at the back of the queue'. Destroys your faith in them a little.

That and many more snippets gradually erodes your faith in them, top it up with Hillsborough, other lies etc. I'm sure there are people in the police who do it because they care for people but I think they are few and far between . I suspect that most are career policemen or in it for the pension.

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I do believe in law and order, it's just the way it's managed.

The Dalian Atkinson trial doesn't help matters either. To cut a story short I met a policeman's brother in law (ex-car salesman), who told me he joined the police for a reliable wage and pension. He asked him what he did when trouble broke out 'always make sure I'm at the back of the queue'. Destroys your faith in them a little.

That and many more snippets gradually erodes your faith in them, top it up with Hillsborough, other lies etc. I'm sure there are people in the police who do it because they care for people but I think they are few and far between . I suspect that most are career policemen or in it for the pension.

The back of the queue comment is interesting; a colleague at work had an extremely successful career in the police but chose to leave becauee of careerists and folk joining up merely for a steady wage and pension rather than making a difference. He was caught out by the back of the queue types and was left exposed…he left.

He speaks fondly of his time in the police but often makes a quick sarcastic comment if there are stories etc in newspapers. He’s a chap with his eyes wide open and he’s certainly seen a fair fee for he bad apples too.

He does also talk about those that don’t hang around at the back and do their job diligently and with dignity. However, he has mentioned a few times those that ‘like a good ruck’…