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Rick12
June 16, 2021, 10:38pm
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I don't like being told what to do.

I think it stems from the wife telling what to do for the last 43 years.
God bless you Pete. She's a lucky women to have a married a good man like yourself .


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That's OK but from dealing with difficult children in the classroom to dealing with young offenders I can vouch that the research stands true.  I don't know if your aware of the background to those that killed young Jamie Bulger back in 1993. Very deprived backgrounds alongside innate  problematic behaviour.



How much do you know about the, ahem, genetic makeup of your “difficult children” in classrooms or young offenders? And what element of the Bulger killers’ genetic makeup predisposed them to carrying out the act?
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How much do you know about the, ahem, genetic makeup of your “difficult children” in classrooms or young offenders? And what element of the Bulger killers’ genetic makeup predisposed them to carrying out the act?
From talking to their parents. From a early age eg 3 years old  some had difficult characters and were taken to child psychologists where amongst others behavioural problems were diagnosed eg conduct disorder which means naturally occurring aggressive streaks and anti social behavior.

As for the Bulger killers particularly Robert Thompson there was some underlying problems there eg lack of emotion for one when interviewed by detectives whereas Jon Venables the other accomplice showed visible signs of distress. Added to that Thompsons background was a lot more problematic than Venables.



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Quoted from grimsby pete


I don't like being told what to do.

I think it stems from the wife telling what to do for the last 43 years.


I solved that problem quite easily. I turn my hearing aids down!



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Interesting article in the news today about the Met having to reinstate ( if that's the correct word ) a police officer because they got it all wrong. Having read the BBC article it looks like bullying and corruption are still there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57501764


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Yes, despite the endless reams of evidence and studies that show precisely the opposite is true. We live in a profoundly sick society, and some people just can’t think of anything other than more violence, more punishment, more punitive measures, more bullying.

Then when presented with evidence of INSTITUTIONAL corruption in the police, apologists like yourself want to put it down to a few individuals.


More kneeling and rainbow boot laces required😂
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I think you need to get in the real world Skaface. There's some good to you but my God have you a lot to learn. Some of your sentiments are not with it. This is real life with all its pain and hardship and good as well. I don't know whether you have lived in a bubble but try talking to more people and realise a leftist agenda like yours and yes Iam a green party member as well don't have all the answers.

As for the research it was when I was studying for a crime module some years back . It was over 5 years ago but the research  was a book on crime and children and the research I cited came from animal studies within the book which  related animal  temperaments to that  of humans.Some animals are more wilder by nature like some humans and need corresponding discipline.  





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That's OK but from dealing with difficult children in the classroom to dealing with young offenders I can vouch that the research stands true.  I don't know if your aware of the background to those that killed young Jamie Bulger back in 1993. Very deprived backgrounds alongside innate  problematic behaviour.



Traumatic and abusive upbringings can cause lack of empathy, poor emotional regulation and cycles of abuse.

That's nurture, not genetics.
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I totally agree. At one time the police had integrity and were respected by the public. Somewhere along the line dogooders in the police managed to ditch the integrity and now wonder why the public don't respect the police.



Can you give us some dates on this era please?
Corruption in the Met was rife in the 60's and 70s, Soho porn shops all paid dues to CID to stay open and were subject to showy raids to keep appearances of enforcement. A Chief Superintendant was brought in who famously said "my aim is for the Met to catch more criminals than we employ". The BBC series Bent Coppers covers this era.

So, that was the 60s and 70s, certainly not the era of 'dogooders' and definitely the era of unchecked casual police violence.
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