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I would rather journalists ask difficult questions than just tow the party line.
Absolutely. If the manager doesn't like the question then it's his right - and his opportunity - to say so live on air. If Jolley wanted Matt Dean and John Tondeur to be 'straight up' and 'ask an honest question' on air then he should've been straight up and honest with them, on air, and demand one from them. He can't then wait to be 'off the record' and then have a go at them because that's hypocritical. If Jolley wasn't happy with the questions on air then he should have said so on air because that would've been straight up and honest.
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November 17, 2019, 12:46am |
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I would rather journalists ask difficult questions than just tow the party line.
That's rich, coming from you. Jsf only has to say jump and you ask how high? And I know, from personal experience
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November 17, 2019, 12:52am |
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Can't possibly defend M.J's actions here but if his right royal highness can totally reduce a bright, clever, erudite young manager to a mental, raging, incoherent foul mouthed thug in less than 2 years then what chance do we have of getting anybody turning round this poisoned chalice of a football club? None at all I would surmise. Sad times for GTFC. 😭 Really can't wait until you know who felicitations right off for good!
I was trying to think of how to phrase my reaction, and you've done it for me badger. I cannot believe that I am falling out of love with the team I've supported for nigh on 50 years.and every problem that you come across, and there are many, always, without fail, comes back to one man
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November 17, 2019, 1:45am |
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You think there’s ever been a Town (any football) manager in the last 40 years who has never said the f word in public or at a press meeting?
No not at all, but they shouldn't be in a professional setting like they are. Theres no doubt at some point they probably have, the point is they shouldn't be doing it and especially not in the manner Jolley is, even if it is out of frustration.
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November 17, 2019, 3:10am |
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Why was this recorded? Was it a private conversation? If so, it's out of order that it was recorded. Surely, people can say things off record.
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November 17, 2019, 8:13am |
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Makes Rob Scott sound like facking Cliff Richard!
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Northbank Mariner |
November 17, 2019, 8:23am |
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Makes Rob Scott sound like facking Cliff Richard!
Do we have a new "shouty" now??...
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November 17, 2019, 8:42am |
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Can’t get over how many people are offended by the f word. You’d almost think they’d never heard it in a football context. I think the word is snowflake...
Industrial language is everywhere, we know that. Anyone who has worked in construction, fishing, lumping or been in a pro dressing room knows that. Fenty knows that. It was not the words so much as how he was like a machine gun with them, almost spitting them at people who were there just trying to do their jobs. This being the person who remorselessly manipulated and smarmed the media to get himself cosy in the community when he came. He showed that was a con. He only ever wanted the “How’s Macca’s cold today?” and “Any news on signings?” questions that he could flannel his way out of. Have we seen him explain the change of playing style? Has he offered any reasons why Hanson has suddenly ceased to trouble the scorers? Once the going got tough, and it was Jolley who made the going tough, he wanted to blame the usual easy target. Nobody reduced him to a gibbering wreck but himself. Fenty has his faults, we could spend all day listing them, but he did not precipitate this outburst. It was all Jolley’s own work.
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Thank goodness this unhinged bank clerk wasn't given a bigger budget.
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Industrial language is everywhere, we know that. Anyone who has worked in construction, fishing, lumping or been in a pro dressing room knows that. Fenty knows that. It was not the words so much as how he was like a machine gun with them, almost spitting them at people who were there just trying to do their jobs. This being the person who remorselessly manipulated and smarmed the media to get himself cosy in the community when he came. He showed that was a con. He only ever wanted the “How’s Macca’s cold today?” and “Any news on signings?” questions that he could flannel his way out of. Have we seen him explain the change of playing style? Has he offered any reasons why Hanson has suddenly ceased to trouble the scorers?
Once the going got tough, and it was Jolley who made the going tough, he wanted to blame the usual easy target. Nobody reduced him to a gibbering wreck but himself. Fenty has his faults, we could spend all day listing them, but he did not precipitate this outburst. It was all Jolley’s
J.S.F. haters aren't going to find you amusing Ron.
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