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Can’t get over how many people are offended by the f word. You’d almost think they’d never heard it in a football context. I think the word is snowflake...


I’m not offended by it at all, but I’m flabbergasted that someone with a degree from Oxford couldn’t string two sentences together without blurting it out over 50 times! It made my own pretty limited vocabulary seem sophisticated.

I’ve lost it before but never resorted to that. I swear all the time, to my detriment, but Jolley has taken it to a whole new level there.

Matt Dean is a gent - if Jolley had spoken to me like that I’d have given him the Sterling treatment around the throat.
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Can’t get over how many people are offended by the f word. You’d almost think they’d never heard it in a football context. I think the word is snowflake...


I don't think its as much a matter of the word itself, more about the fact of when he has used it (while representing the club) and the agressive manner of how he used it, we all know the word is widely used in the footballing world its all about context thought isn't it.


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I’m not offended by it at all, but I’m flabbergasted that someone with a degree from Oxford couldn’t string two sentences together without blurting it out over 50 times! It made my own pretty limited vocabulary seem sophisticated.

I’ve lost it before but never resorted to that. I swear all the time, to my detriment, but Jolley has taken it to a whole new level there.

Matt Dean is a gent - if Jolley had spoken to me like that I’d have given him the Sterling treatment around the throat.


Cambridge.

It was off the record.

I suspect this is par for the course.

Whoever recorded and leaked it is a flipping snake.

I’ve heard far worse.
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I don't think its as much a matter of the word itself, more about the fact of when he has used it (while representing the club) and the agressive manner of how he used it, we all know the word is widely used in the footballing world its all about context thought isn't it.


You think there’s ever been a Town (any football) manager in the last 40 years who has never said the f word in public or at a press meeting?

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The use of swear words isn't the problem and those defending or even applauding the 'passionate' outburst are deliberately missing the point.  This was a targeted attack in an attempt to bully a fellow professional.  That this is apparently commonplace tells you everything you need to know about the culture at GTFC and in football generally.  I've worked in that sort of atmosphere before and it shouldn't be acceptable in an industry with a shred of integrity.
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We may well have a dire budget.  However, if so, the manager must use the money even more wisely for new players.  Then the playing resources must be used in their right positions etc to maximise the limited investment.

Buying a player that does not improve the team is more costly when on a small budget.

A settled team should also be the aim, not the exception.

The tactics can also make optimum use of the playing resources and individual abilities.

Barring Exeter away and a few other games this season, Jolley has not made the most of the players at his disposal.  Neither has he developed some players as well he he might have done.
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I was an advocate of Jolley and was disappointed to learn that he had gone. I also swear and am not offended by the coarse language you often hear at a football match.

But, as it's already been pointed out, whether that's off the record or not, it's a pretty awful and disrespectful way to talk to another human being. I didn't hear MD or JT swear in response, and whatever the rights and wrongs of it are, they retained their integrity while MJ lost all of his.

I do share his frustrations and I can see why he said what he said, between the swearing. But if anyone thinks this way of talking is in any way acceptable within a place of work - I don't care if it's sport - then they're living in the dark ages.

We're meant to be creating a more tolerant world where it should be safe for people to be who they really are, and all this tirade does is underline the bullying nature that still exists within football.

I accept there's passion, and frustration, and a lot of emotion involved but, come on, MJ is an educated bloke and can speak perfectly eloquently when he needs to. I really don't think MD and JT are the nasty pieces of work he's making them out to be, and they certainly don't deserve to be spoken to like that.


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Hope nobody puts a transcript on the swear word filter would blow up.


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Can't possibly defend M.J's actions here but if his right royal highness can totally reduce a bright, clever, erudite young manager to a mental, raging, incoherent foul mouthed thug in less than 2 years then what chance do we have of getting anybody turning round this poisoned chalice of a football club? None at all I would surmise. Sad times for GTFC. 😭
Really can't wait until you know who felicitations right off for good!
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I would rather journalists ask difficult questions than just tow the party line.


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