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TownSNAFU5
November 9, 2019, 7:34pm
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Yes, his players and he has had time to take the team forward.  The win at unbeaten Exeter looks now like the exception to the rule, not a statement of better results coming.

It should be a crime to bore loyal fans with dull, boring and defensive “football and tactics”.
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Whether that is true or not something has gone on - I can feel it in my water.

All of a sudden tetchiness creeps in from the manager, players don't seem to be convinced by tactics or lack thereof, and the cycle of optimism followed by despair starts all over again.



Well for starters, he’s leaving Clifton out because he says he can’t rely on him as he’s always on international duty.
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Quoted from denni266
Been saying for over a season that Jolley is no manager.. He does not have a clue how to manage. He is a coach not a manager. He has learned nothing in two years . There has been no real improvement in play or win percentage. The heat is now starting to build , lets see how his fine words start to alter now things are getting warm.. He has got some reasonable players but does not know what to do with them


You say the same about everyone who manages us though  so no-one listens!
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Are training sessions open to the public, because if they are it would be interesting to see what happens on the training pitch, I cannot believe they train to just boot it to Hanson and hope. Probably they should just play 11 versus 11 and learn to play the ball on the deck.


I don't know what is going on in training but every player seems worse now than what they were at the start of the season,whether it is injury or interference I don't know . Somebody or something has caused it and you can't sack something At the start of the season it was "Please Please Me" by The Beatles-now it's "Goodbyee Goodbyee" by Everybody.
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We just happen to be in the bad patch stage of the good patch / bad patch cycle we’ve been on since Jolley arrived.
it’s not that he lacks tactical ability


Sorry cant agree
I was willing to give MJ time to mould a good solid team to push for promotion.
After today I have to give him credit for the squad we now have but that alone is not good enough.
If you then if you don’t have the acumen to use your resources in the correct way then it’s time to go.
Today showed me that the bloke has not got a clue.
I did hate saying this as I wanted a long term plan to get our club playing at higher level  


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Are training sessions open to the public, because if they are it would be interesting to see what happens on the training pitch, I cannot believe they train to just boot it to Hanson and hope. Probably they should just play 11 versus 11 and learn to play the ball on the deck.


If only we had Hope to help Hanson.
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Sorry cant agree
I was willing to give MJ time to mould a good solid team to push for promotion.
After today I have to give him credit for the squad we now have but that alone is not good enough.
If you then if you don’t have the acumen to use your resources in the correct way then it’s time to go.
Today showed me that the bloke has not got a clue.
I did hate saying this as I wanted a long term plan to get our club playing at higher level  


I agree with your general thrust, but I always say it is up to the board to have a "long term" plan to push the club on to better things (apart from ours, obviously).

The managers job is to get results; no good having any long term plans if you cannot get results. Not only is he not getting results (with a group of players I thought  were better than previous seasons) but is playing the most boring, unexciting football.

When ARE we going to see some excitement? The last few games we have not made the keeper move a muscle, don't get into the box, don't have a prolonged period of pressure, don't have any shots and score precious few goals.
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I agree with your general thrust, but I always say it is up to the board to have a "long term" plan to push the club on to better things (apart from ours, obviously).

The managers job is to get results; no good having any long term plans if you cannot get results. Not only is he not getting results (with a group of players I thought  were better than previous seasons) but is playing the most boring, unexciting football.

When ARE we going to see some excitement? The last few games we have not made the keeper move a muscle, don't get into the box, don't have a prolonged period of pressure, don't have any shots and score precious few goals.


If the long term plan is to save a few shekels to pay off the loans then I fear we’ll be fighting to retain our league status again with the current game plan and the manager’s mentality.
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Couple of things on this,

I don’t think Jolley and Limbrick are making the players any better in term of performance and developing their game this was evident today and twice against Cambridge when Rose had clean break opportunities and rather than knocking it past the defender and putting the afterburners on he chose to try and dribble it and lost possession, poor coaching that IMHO.

If Jolley applied for the Lincoln job I’d be surprised as he’s clearly intelligent enough to work out that they’d never go for a lower half Div 4 Manager.

Apart from that whoever says he applied for the Lincoln job is a an idiot as they would have needed permission from GTFC to talk to him and as the club technically is a PLC that permission would have had to have been made public by corporate law.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Quoted from HertsGTFC
Couple of things on this,

I don’t think Jolley and Limbrick are making the players any better in term of performance and developing their game this was evident today and twice against Cambridge when Rose had clean break opportunities and rather than knocking it past the defender and putting the afterburners on he chose to try and dribble it and lost possession, poor coaching that IMHO.

If Jolley applied for the Lincoln job I’d be surprised as he’s clearly intelligent enough to work out that they’d never go for a lower half Div 4 Manager.

Apart from that whoever says he applied for the Lincoln job is a an idiot as they would have needed permission from GTFC to talk to him and as the club technically is a PLC that permission would have had to have been made public by corporate law.


I don’t know any more about the Lincoln rumour than anyone else but I do know “applied” would be a great exaggeration and any communications would have been extremely well under the radar.

But you have a nail on the head there with MJ and his assistant. I expected we would see lesser known players improved into at least L2 level and on  to a level where Championship clubs start sniffing round. That was his big self-promotion point wasn’t it? Instead we see players going backwards or reaching a plateau too soon like Clifton and Rose. I fear for other youngsters in this situation.


“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
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