Melanie Onn

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

She is just another jobsworth not done anything of merit at least Hulls female M.P. gets things done ours is useless.

Not sure on the relevance of gender. I know of many useless male MP's...

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Considering that in the last 40 years, Labour has only been in government for 14 years, there's not been much opportunity for them to do anything about it. Tories have had nearly twice as long in government. They've taken more money off the town in the last 8 years than anyone ever.

During the last 4 decades more and more power has been taken off local government, so they've had less ability to do anything positive.

Three terms of government are long enough to make the changes you want. In Labour's last term with Brown they spent everything and left nothing which caused the Tory austerity clamp down. I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party but Labour in particular have shown their true colours in the past few years. They want mass immigration and low skilled, low wage or unemployed as they're the demographic that vote for them. Grimsby is the worse for their control and I for one would like to see another political party given a chance to see if they can improve things. The Tories would have got that control if they had chosen better candidates, especially in Mitchell's last term. Martin Vicars seems to be doing a decent job for Cleethorpes, he's local and knows the area. I for one am sick of Labour and sick of Melanie Onn. We might even have had our new ground if a more dynamic local authority and MP had been in charge in recent years.

You think the Tories don't want cheap immigrant labour? If you do you're not very clued up on capitalism and the Conservative party. Labour under Blair and Brown mimicked the Tories. And 5 terms in office isn't enough for the Tories to sort Grimsby out? 3 terms is enough but 5 isn't. And you say you're not aligned politically. Could have fooled me.

As for leaving the country in debt, things were going fine on public finances until the banking crisis. Labour made the mistake of allowing the market freedom (like the Tories want). Brown stopped the whole thing crashing down (some lefties think he should have let it happen) with his bailouts.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

You think the Tories don't want cheap immigrant labour? If you do you're not very clued up on capitalism and the Conservative party. Labour under Blair and Brown mimicked the Tories. And 5 terms in office isn't enough for the Tories to sort Grimsby out? 3 terms is enough but 5 isn't. And you say you're not aligned politically. Could have fooled me.

As for leaving the country in debt, things were going fine on public finances until the banking crisis. Labour made the mistake of allowing the market freedom (like the Tories want). Brown stopped the whole thing crashing down (some lefties think he should have let it happen) with his bailouts.

The Tories haven't been in charge of the local authority in Grimsby, neither have we had a Tory MP or any other for that matter to try and improve things. As I have stated I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party. I have voted for four parties in my life time, actually mostly Labour in my earlier years. It was then I wasn't clued up, youth is wasted on the young. I would rather have capitalism than socialism anyday of the week. Are you a Guardian reader by any chance Kingston..?

Quoted from grimps

She’s an absolute idiot and has nothing in common with her electorate.

Well, some of them are idiots.

Quoted from LH

Well, some of them are idiots.

Yeah, it's evident from this thread.

Quoted from Dogger Bank

The Tories haven't been in charge of the local authority in Grimsby, neither have we had a Tory MP or any other for that matter to try and improve things. As I have stated I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party. I have voted for four parties in my life time, actually mostly Labour in my earlier years. It was then I wasn't clued up, youth is wasted on the young. I would rather have capitalism than socialism anyday of the week. Are you a Guardian reader by any chance Kingston..?

So the way to end austerity in Grimsby is to vote for the party that puts in place the measures of austerity.

Quoted from Dogger Bank

The Tories haven't been in charge of the local authority in Grimsby, neither have we had a Tory MP or any other for that matter to try and improve things. As I have stated I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party. I have voted for four parties in my life time, actually mostly Labour in my earlier years. It was then I wasn't clued up, youth is wasted on the young. I would rather have capitalism than socialism anyday of the week. Are you a Guardian reader by any chance Kingston..?

There's little local government can do, as its had its hands tied over the last 40 years. Less and less control over any services bar bins, bogs and libraries. Not even schools now. All they can do is administer the admissions process each year with all these academies running schools. It's the government that calls the shots and 2/3 of the last 40 years we've had Tory governments. So its odd how you blame Labour yet they've had far less opportunity to do anything.

The fact you criticise Melanie One for being a poor MP at the same time as saying that if the Tories had put up  decent candidate, says it all. So what you're saying is both major parties put up crap candidates in GY. Yet somehow it is Labour who is in the wrong, not both of them.

As for reading the Guardian, are you a Daily Mail reader?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Problem you've got is who do you vote for who genuinely has the interests of GY at heart? Tories never will. Grimsby is one of those towns that is full of people to be exploited on behalf of people in more prosperous places. A left of centre independent is about the best bet but will never be in government.

Very patronising comment about the people of gy . That sounds like u think they’re so thick they can’t figure stuff out and make a decision based on what is best for themselves. And your post later down this thread about foreign labour - well the reason for that is the U.K. population is too fooking lazy to do jobs they think is beneath them . It’s got nothing to do with Labour or Tory policies . Apart from no party having the bollox to cut benefits because they know it would be a definite vote loser .

Quoted from rancido

You forgot to mention John McDonald as Chancellor of The Exchequer - God help us if he controlled the country's finances!

I'm surprised that the Pedant Police didn't notice that I meant to say John McDonnell - it seems like the Fishy is getting soft !!