Jolly is out of his depth.

I'm not anti Jolley but just an observation

Slade got slaughtered by some for have all 11 men back at corners, Jolley is doing the same but nothing is being said about it...

Quoted from Davec

I'm not anti Jolley but just an observation

Slade got slaughtered by some for have all 11 men back at corners, Jolley is doing the same but nothing is being said about it...

A lot of mangers are doing this statisticaly apparently less chance of conceding

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

A lot of mangers are doing this statisticaly apparently less chance of conceding

Doesn't work for us 😉

Massive improvement under Michael Jolley. He has my full support for what it's worth and he should be retained irrespective of what division we are in next season. Although I will not be attending if that tyrant remains at the club.

Quoted from davmariner

Only today he cost us a least a point by giving away a free kick (even though the the ball had gone out for our throw) which led to their equaliser.

Classic case of a GY scapegoat. Lots of people to blame for conceding from a set piece not just the person who gives the free kick away. Don't get me wrong he's a very limited footballer but so our all of our squad. At least he's always fit and available for selection. No point slagging players off now anyway. Whatever happens we've only got them for another 5 games so may as well get behind them.

He's always "fit" because he doesn't do anything to get unfit-he doesn't do anything

I’ll defend Berrett here. He is not an athlete and he’s not going to get 10 goals a season from midfield. He’s a decent footballer, looks after the ball well, he doesn’t give it away very often and keeps us ticking over I feel. He’s undoubtedly very limited but not nearly as bad as some make him out to be. However, Summerfield is a far better player. He’s got more energy and more athleticism but that just about says it all when Summerfield has been one of our 2 outstanding players this season with McKeown.

Quoted from Yoda

I’m sorry to say Jolly has not got clue second half again nothing.
He’s made us worse than Wilko and Sludge.

Give it a rest

I think the most important thing to point out here is that Jolley is picking up the pieces after a disastrous 18-months.  We simply have not done enough in every single area of the club and our league position is reflection of such.

If/When we go do down it won't be because of Jolley, any sane person could not put that blame at his feet.

However, I've yet to see anything to suggest he is the man that will inspire us to roar back as a force.  Yes, he has had just over a month here.  Yes, he has got a shower to work with.  Yes, he's got limited time and had very little wiggle room to bring his own bodies in.  But we still seem to be repeating the same mistakes we made under Slade.  

Within this thread I've seen the names of Clarke, Hooper, Berrett, Rose, Matt, Vernon all mentioned as examples of why we're in such a bad position.  Yet Jolley persists with them, they seem to have endless chances.  We do have options, not great options but we do have options.   McAllister was our best player against Coventry by a country mile, yet he's dropped to the bench the following game for Mitch Bloody Rose, who then proceeded to keep his place for the next game.  In fact both Rose and Summerfield played 2 games in 72 hours despite having missed a fair weeks prior, it can't be a fitness issue.  Hell, it can never be a fitness issue as Rose is always blowing after five minutes!  McAllister was fit for Friday and was fit yesterday, Jolley just didn't pick him.

I don't care what's gone on before with McAllister and previous managers, I don't care if he's fallen out with Fenty, I don't care if he's taken a great big dump down Freeman Street.  He's our best midfielder and Jolley not picking him is stupid.  We're at the point where issues, egos, dramas etc. need putting to one side. We're not in a fortunate enough position where we pick a system and then pick the best team to suit that.  We've got a handful of competent players and the rest are useless.  You scratch away at 11 players who are capable and somehow hope they fit.  You don't pick the likes of Mitch Rose, Nathan Clarke, James Berrett who have let us down game after game after game.

Zac Mills, Reece Hall-Johnson, Sean McAllister, Harry Clifton, DJ, Harry Cardwell.   All lads who've not had a fair chance all season, suffering the same fate under Jolley whilst lesser players are selected ahead of them.  Mills has, in fairness, come back into the side the last few weeks.

From a coaching perspective, Rome was never going to be built in a day but I kinda hoped that we would see some improvement.  That's probably unfair as the majority of the players are awful and probably beyond coaching improvements.  But then again Jolley continues to select them.

The original poster states that Jolley has made us worse.  That's not true, I don't think we could get any worse.  But equally so I don't think he's improved us and I'm reserving judgement on him until he's at least had the chance to put his own stamp on things.  Judging him either way is unfair due to the constraints he's under.

Hindsight is great, but Jolley isn't what we needed for the short-term.   We needed a fire-fighter who may have stood a chance of giving us a slight bounce, that doesn't appear to be how Jolley approaches things at all.  I know we all want to start looking further than the end of our noses but if the short-term fails, we can forget about any long-term plans.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think the most important thing to point out here is that Jolley is picking up the pieces after a disastrous 18-months.  We simply have not done enough in every single area of the club and our league position is reflection of such.

If/When we go do down it won't be because of Jolley, any sane person could not put that blame at his feet.

However, I've yet to see anything to suggest he is the man that will inspire us to roar back as a force.  Yes, he has had just over a month here.  Yes, he has got a shower to work with.  Yes, he's got limited time and had very little wiggle room to bring his own bodies in.  But we still seem to be repeating the same mistakes we made under Slade.  

Within this thread I've seen the names of Clarke, Hooper, Berrett, Rose, Matt, Vernon all mentioned as examples of why we're in such a bad position.  Yet Jolley persists with them, they seem to have endless chances.  We do have options, not great options but we do have options.   McAllister was our best player against Coventry by a country mile, yet he's dropped to the bench the following game for Mitch Bloody Rose, who then proceeded to keep his place for the next game.  In fact both Rose and Summerfield played 2 games in 72 hours despite having missed a fair weeks prior, it can't be a fitness issue.  Hell, it can never be a fitness issue as Rose is always blowing after five minutes!  McAllister was fit for Friday and was fit yesterday, Jolley just didn't pick him.

I don't care what's gone on before with McAllister and previous managers, I don't care if he's fallen out with Fenty, I don't care if he's taken a great big dump down Freeman Street.  He's our best midfielder and Jolley not picking him is stupid.  We're at the point where issues, egos, dramas etc. need putting to one side. We're not in a fortunate enough position where we pick a system and then pick the best team to suit that.  We've got a handful of competent players and the rest are useless.  You scratch away at 11 players who are capable and somehow hope they fit.  You don't pick the likes of Mitch Rose, Nathan Clarke, James Berrett who have let us down game after game after game.

Zac Mills, Reece Hall-Johnson, Sean McAllister, Harry Clifton, DJ, Harry Cardwell.   All lads who've not had a fair chance all season, suffering the same fate under Jolley whilst lesser players are selected ahead of them.  Mills has, in fairness, come back into the side the last few weeks.

From a coaching perspective, Rome was never going to be built in a day but I kinda hoped that we would see some improvement.  That's probably unfair as the majority of the players are awful and probably beyond coaching improvements.  But then again Jolley continues to select them.

The original poster states that Jolley has made us worse.  That's not true, I don't think we could get any worse.  But equally so I don't think he's improved us and I'm reserving judgement on him until he's at least had the chance to put his own stamp on things.  Judging him either way is unfair due to the constraints he's under.

Hindsight is great, but Jolley isn't what we needed for the short-term.   We needed a fire-fighter who may have stood a chance of giving us a slight bounce, that doesn't appear to be how Jolley approaches things at all.  I know we all want to start looking further than the end of our noses but if the short-term fails, we can forget about any long-term plans.

I get your frustration in fact like many others I share it. Who do you think would have realistically come to GTFC to give us “bounce”. Indeed if someone came in short term that would have meant another re-start in May and potentially leaving us chasing our tails to put a squad together in time for August. Regardless of what league we are in next year we need a big, big re-build, at least MJs in place to start when the last game ends.

Re selection they have been pretty conservative but Mills is getting a run, RHB started yesterday, Clifton has had a couple of starts and despite having some pace Harry Cardwell has failed to make an impact. I would like to have see DJ and Suliman get more game time under both MJ and Slade.

On paper McAlister should be one of our best mid fielders but as he’s only played a handful of games since Aug 16 is he really the answer I’m not sure we’ve seen enough of him in a GTFC shirt to say.

Overall the squad lacks quality from top to bottom and whoever comes in is in reality only placing like with like.