Next manager?

Long time reader my first post and I don't see a subject that is more relevant than this.

Having seen all the post over the last month regarding slade out there hasn't been any suggestion from anyone over who people want to replace him. Although I do agree that slade needs to walk I'm struggling to think of someone who can come in and improve our fortunes.

Seen posts of Disley and Buckley which are absurd.  If we are to replace slade we need someone who can come in and work with what's here for the final 4 and half months of the season and most importantly get the players and the fans back engaged in the club.

So if you were in charge who would you appoint?  

We've hopefully learned our lesson when it comes to journeymen. Someone from the conference whose career is in an upward trajectory
Edit: Ebbsfleet's McMahon?

Fenty then he'll get the sack in a few months time.

Enough is enough

Quoted from AdamHaddock

We've hopefully learned our lesson when it comes to journeymen. Someone from the conference whose career is in an upward trajectory

Like Marcus Bignot?

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

I would try and grab David Challinor at AFC Fylde, done really well in the non-leagues. Also won various awards including good team discipline with least yellow cards/red cards.

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Is this a joke?

Danny Cowley

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

I would try and grab David Challinor at AFC Fylde, done really well in the non-leagues. Also won various awards including team with least yellow cards/red cards.

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How welcome would he be at BP? Those with good memories would remember the Martin Pringle incident.

I certainly remember it... shocking tackle that ultimately ended Pringle’s career.

I remember it well. It was raining heavily and I was sat in the Pontoon's temporary open corner then the stewards moved us to the Osmond. I think Challinor only got a yellow for his shocking two footed challenge that broke Pringle's leg and Carlton Palmer got a red for clapping his hands at the ref's terrible decision making.

Mark Hughes is now free

Quoted from GG

I remember it well. It was raining heavily and I was sat in the Pontoon's temporary open corner then the stewards moved us to the Osmond. I think Challinor only got a yellow for his shocking two footed challenge that broke Pringle's leg and Carlton Palmer got a red for clapping his hands at the ref's terrible decision making.

Agree with you Ginny. Also remember Palmer then turned tail the next day and went out in the press slaughtering his player.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Mark Hughes is now free

Either him or Nigel Adkins (said him last time)

Quoted from Teestogreen

Either him or Nigel Adkins (said him last time)

You mean the man who has been in charge of Hull City for less than a month?

Paul Hurst

Dis for me. Passionate about the club, likeable so players will play for him and if I’m honest he’ll be cheap. Could be the next Eddie Howe and hopefully not the next Neil Woods. He’d be a risk but who isn’t ?

Someone like Robbie Stockdale wouldn’t be a bad shout. Had a couple of years coaching at a good level and also knows the club. I know he’s well thought of as a coach in the North East.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Mark Hughes is now free

Wales

I reckon Dave Moore could caretake the job like he did the other season, he did a fine job and the players played for him, let Dave carry on until we find the right man for the job. No good rushing and making a mistake again. If we can just get a proven striker in to help us, and then leave it at that till the end of season. Consolidate our position and then take it from there. Damage limitations.

Quoted from davmariner

Someone like Robbie Stockdale wouldn’t be a bad shout. Had a couple of years coaching at a good level and also knows the club. I know he’s well thought of as a coach in the North East.

We couldn’t get near his present wages

Paul Groves

Aren't Fylde backed by a sugar daddy? if so then it's not too hard to get a team to Conference with money at your disposal.

Quoted from bawarmy

Wales

Non footy

I love/hate these threads. Love them for some of the daft “Shankly’s not been dead long - can we get him back?” suggestions but hate them because it’s depressing that there isn’t anybody out there.

Quoted from MacDaddy9214

  If we are to replace slade we need someone who can come in and work with what's here for the final 4 and half months of the season and most importantly get the players and the fans back engaged in the club.

So if you were in charge who would you appoint?  

Dave Moore - fits the bill for that exactly

Quoted from Ipswin

Dave Moore - fits the bill for that exactly

Couldn't agree more - sadly, I don't think he wants it.

Apologies if some of my choices are not particularly ambitious. I’ve tried to be realistic and match the boards likely tick list, I.e. cheap, low stock:

Rob Jones
Stuart Watkiss
Neil Redfearn
Lee Clark
Martin Allen
Micky Adams
Billy Davies
Paul Sturrock

Presuming of course, we don’t go for Mr Charisma Paul Wilkinson as he’s on the payroll already, or promote Graham Rodger or Neil Woods.

Davies probably over ambitious come to think of it. Mad dog Martin Allen my choice.

Quoted from 75

Apologies if some of my choices are not particularly ambitious. I’ve tried to be realistic and match the boards likely tick list, I.e. cheap, low stock:

Rob Jones
Stuart Watkiss
Neil Redfearn
Lee Clark
Martin Allen
Micky Adams
Billy Davies
Paul Sturrock

Christ, that's a depressing list.

If we have to have a temporary man in charge please keep woods away from it , I’d go with Dave Moore

Someone with no connection to the club please. As Slade has shown appointing managers that divide the fan base is a gamble so definitely no to Challinor.

As I said when Slade was appointed the priority should be someone who has a long term vision of where the club is going, the style of football we play, our recruitment policy, our youth policy etc. As the person in charge of these things has no clue that's going to be pretty difficult.

Quoted from 75

Apologies if some of my choices are not particularly ambitious. I’ve tried to be realistic and match the boards likely tick list, I.e. cheap, low stock:

Rob Jones....why?
Stuart Watkiss....no
Neil Redfern.....maybe
Lee Clark......no
Martin Allen....definitely no
Micky Adams...maybe
Billy Davies.....yes
Paul  Sturrock...definitely no

Looks like Dave Moore could be in for yet another holding position for a bit

Presuming of course, we don’t go for Mr Charisma Paul Wilkinson as he’s on the payroll already, or promote Graham Rodger or Neil Woods.

Davies probably over ambitious come to think of it. Mad dog Martin Allen my choice.

There’s a few 30 something’s in the squad, maybe one of them could do a player manager role with Dave Moore’s assistance until the end of the season and re-evaluate then. You never know, we might unearth a gem from within.

Some (maybe all  ) of these might be over optimistic

Simon Grayson
Dean Saunders
Brian McDermott
Mike Phelan
Stuart Gray
Mark Warburton
Paul Ince
Peter Taylor
John Sheridan

What about somebody upcoming, Dean Keates from Wrexham or the Woking manager who's name escapes me atm.

Another consideration could be to look to Scotland, lots of managers there who are used to working on a tight budget and will know about players not so well known down here. Someone like the Livingston manager David Hopkin maybe?

This thread is turning into a good example of why the fans should never take over the running of the club.

Quoted from LH

This thread is turning into a good example of why the fans should never take over the running of the club.

As opposed to those currently in charge who are doing a sterling job.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Couldn't agree more - sadly, I don't think he wants it.

I was only thinking until the end of the season - we could take our time (instead of rushing in like a headless chicken - Fenty take  note), we could see who was available and who did well and might be ready to step up (if we are intent on going down to the Conference for a new man) If Dave Moore gets something out of this squad (which I am sure he could by whatever means) we could save our cash on the January window so the new man doesn't inherit someone else's buys and still has the budget (how ever large or small its going to be) intact to use in the summer. We could use the next 4 months to look around and wait if necessary so we don't intercourse up again (Fenty take note again) by 'tapping up' someone under contract and getting taken to court again (Fenty take note again)


I am convinced Moore could get the squad playing for him, garner enough points to those we already have to stay out of trouble and get folk back through the gate at BP

All this talk of who the next Manager should be is a little presumptuous as we have yet to get rid of RS. I honestly expected an announcement last night/first thing this morning. I think maybe they are waiting to see if the Hysteria blows over before making a decision. I am fairly confident that, if he remains until the end of the season, attendances will drop below 1500.

Please put him and the rest of us out of our misery!!

Then, and only then, we will be able to speculate about our wish lists for a replacement.

Please JF, do the right thing before it becomes irreparable.

UTM

Ben Davies has just completed his UEFA B? (I believe it B, could be incorrect - certainly one of the higher badges).

You'd imagine between him and Dave Moore , there would enough knowledge and expertise for us to be safe.

Who knows , Davies could turn out to be quite decent. Happened enough times in the footballing world.

Quoted from Davec

What about somebody upcoming, Dean Keates from Wrexham or the Woking manager who's name escapes me atm.

They're 14th, have a goal difference nearly as bad as ours and have only won once in their last ten games.

I'm not convinced that Slade will be relieved of his duties. To be honest, i'm not really bothered anymore. What little attachment i had left, became detached yesterday.

Then this morning i read that Coutinho is going to Barca for 142 million and you have to say, the game is well and truly fooked. The extremes of the game are getting further and further apart and the money men have killed it.

I'd take the Wrexham bloke (especially if he brings Shaun back with him as no 2 - no one cares more about GTFC than Shaun) but I think he has visions of managing Wrexham in Div 4 and he may well achieve it. After that he stays there for a bit and felicitations off to Div 1 (a la Hurst)

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

Some (maybe all  ) of these might be over optimistic

Simon Grayson
Dean Saunders
Brian McDermott
Mike Phelan
Stuart Gray
Mark Warburton
Paul Ince
Peter Taylor
John Sheridan
Rob Jones
Stuart Watkiss
Neil Redfearn
Lee Clark
Martin Allen
Micky Adams
Billy Davies
Paul Sturrock

None of the above would consider GTFC, why? Many have been out of the game for too long, some could be considered retired from management even.

Also there is no money to spend, the squad you have to work with will only take you to mid table at best and you would be the 4th manager in 2 seasons which does not bode well for job security, the security question is an even bigger issue as you could be working for a different board if some mug comes in to take the club on............Oh yeah and I doubt that we could meet there salary expectations.

The above also means we are not that attractive to anyone currently in a decent National League job.

From the list above nobody stands out but if a change is made (and we need one) whoever comes in will not only have to sort the team out they'll have to breathe life into a club that frankly has become a car crash in under 20 months.

Would the caretaker be Dave Moore? I would imagine so but don't discount one Danny Collins from the picture as he was making all the right noises about his future career in an RH interview at the start of the season.  

Quoted from Ipswin

I'd take the Wrexham bloke (especially if he brings Shaun back with him as no 2 - no one cares more about GTFC than Shaun) but I think he has visions of managing Wrexham in Div 4 and he may well achieve it. After that he stays there for a bit and felicitations off to Div 1 (a la Hurst)

I doubt he'd want to come here. For the reasons you mentioned above. And he would be put off by the state of the club board (and the vile fans   ).

Quoted from HertsGTFC

None of the above would consider GTFC, why? Many have been out of the game for too long, some could be considered retired from management even.

Also there is no money to spend, the squad you have to work with will only take you to mid table at best and you would be the 4th manager in 2 seasons which does not bode well for job security, the security question is an even bigger issue as you could be working for a different board if some mug comes in to take the club on............Oh yeah and I doubt that we could meet there salary expectations.

The above also means we are not that attractive to anyone currently in a decent National League job.

From the list above nobody stands out but if a change is made (and we need one) whoever comes in will not only have to sort the team out they'll have to breathe life into a club that frankly has become a car crash in under 20 months.

Would the caretaker be Dave Moore? I would imagine so but don't discount one Danny Collins from the picture as he was making all the right noises about his future career in an RH interview at the start of the season.  

Your probably right, but you never know. Ince taking the Mac job a few years ago was a surprise, as was jimmy floyd hasselbaink taking the burton job.

Doesn't Collins still live in the north east? If so doubt he'd be able to offer the committment, whereas Ben Davies lives here doesn't he? Might be worth giving him a go until the end of the season.
That list is bloody awful btw. I'm sure you'd find better quality by looking at an assistant manager who wants to step up or maybe even considering someone from conference north, which is a bloody tough league

Might be worth doing what luton did, and getting a coach from a higher level waiting for their first opportunity.

Martin gray at York or alun Armstrong at Blythe? Martin gray did pretty well at darlo didn't he?

Quoted from forza ivano

Doesn't Collins still live in the north east? If so doubt he'd be able to offer the committment, whereas Ben Davies lives here doesn't he? Might be worth giving him a go until the end of the season.
That list is bloody awful btw. I'm sure you'd find better quality by looking at an assistant manager who wants to step up or maybe even considering someone from conference north, which is a bloody tough league

Agree with this, apart from to be honest I wouldn't want Collins or Davis.

Quoted from ginnywings

As opposed to those currently in charge who are doing a sterling job.

Fully agree. Some of these suggestions are depressing or utterly ridiculous though. The problem being I can’t see the list that the board might come up with whenever the time comes being any better for various reasons.

Just watching Newport v Leeds on BBC Wales and it gives you hope given mess Newport were in this time last year and not sure where they found their new manager from, Mick Flynn, but he has done a fantastic job as we will probably find out next week.

As Lincoln have shown the right appointment can change everything very quickly even after years of poor results, attendances and previous management selections.

Lets hope we fall lucky as whovever comes in, if there is change of course, has a massive job in clearing out a lot of unwanted players.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Just watching Newport v Leeds on BBC Wales and it gives you hope given mess Newport were in this time last year and not sure where they found their new manager from, Mick Flynn, but he has done a fantastic job as we will probably find out next week.

As Lincoln have shown the right appointment can change everything very quickly even after years of poor results, attendances and previous management selections.

Lets hope we fall lucky as whovever comes in, if there is change of course, has a massive job in clearing out a lot of unwanted players.

The right appointment but is where our board have got it consistently wrong. I think JF thought he was getting a Cowley when he recruited Bignot

Quoted from bradzmilne

Ben Davies has just completed his UEFA B? (I believe it B, could be incorrect - certainly one of the higher badges).

You'd imagine between him and Dave Moore , there would enough knowledge and expertise for us to be safe.

Who knows , Davies could turn out to be quite decent. Happened enough times in the footballing world.

I think when we are as low as this as a club - the apathy, the falling attendances, the journeymen players and most important a diabolical board, I dont think it would be good to promote from within or indeed anybody we have had before as it won't be the fresh start we need.

We are not going to get rid of the board so we will have to take a punt on an ambitious manager, with plenty of (restrained) enthusiasm who will enthuse the fans and generate some goodwill. All this supposes we sack Slade of course. I welcomed his appointment (as I have done most managers to be fair, except Woods and Rodger,at the time, but he does seem to have lost his way. Shame, but that is football I suppose.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think when we are as low as this as a club - the apathy, the falling attendances, the journeymen players and most important a diabolical board, I dont think it would be good to promote from within or indeed anybody we have had before as it won't be the fresh start we need.

We are not going to get rid of the board so we will have to take a punt on an ambitious manager, with plenty of (restrained) enthusiasm who will enthuse the fans and generate some goodwill. All this supposes we sack Slade of course. I welcomed his appointment (as I have done most managers to be fair, except Woods and Rodger,at the time, but he does seem to have lost his way. Shame, but that is football I suppose.

He hadn't a clue where he was going to start with.