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December 31, 2014, 1:25pm |
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I've read Paul's piece in the press and agree with it wholeheartedly,
Happy New year and best wishes John
That's not the dreaded vote of confidence to the manager is it John ? Happy New Year to you and all at the club John, Plus all fishy people on here.
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| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner. 68 Years following the Town
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Lincoln Mariner 56 |
December 31, 2014, 1:32pm |
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John if we should have been out of sight after 41 minutes you have to ask why we were not and is this a one off?
IMO the answer to one is our failure to get in the required quality in three key areas, firstly, a creative midfield player, secondly an effective winger who can beat his full back ( at least occasionally try to!) and can cross a ball (please explain our dire free and corner kicks) and thirdly, a proven striker at this level. I accept that signing players is not easy but PH has failed to get the right quality in these 3 key areas since their first summer with Dis and Hearn.
Finally, was it a one off, no but a regular occurence at BP and a regular feature of PH's reign as manager. The reasons for this are detailed above. A lot of fans like myself who have been attending for 50 years are starting to drift away and once that die hard group falls by another 500 we all know the club's future starts to look very bleak.
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the driver |
December 31, 2014, 1:41pm |
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My grandson my son in law and I will be there and sod the come day go day so called fans not watching so called football super stars we are playing too much football over the holidays what a load of crap they are being paid thousand of pounds just to keep fit
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rancido |
December 31, 2014, 2:02pm |
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A friend of mine visited BP for the first time in 20+ years to see the Lincoln match. It was he that first got me going to watch town back in 1965 and we used to attend every home match and some away. He told me that he thought town played some decent football, was pleasantly surprised at some of the approach play and the main difference was that they took their chances and we didn't. This is from a guy who regularly watches live Premiersh*t games. Although this is only one opinion it does demonstrate how a performance can be interpreted differently by those watching. As for those on here who immediately " jumped down JF's throat ( getyourfactsright ) " for his post he, never blamed the fans for the performance , just tried to emphasise the need to keep backing the team and staff. His reference to " negativity " isn't a case of apportioning blame but just trying to keep looking at things with a positive frame of mind. We might have lost a battle but the war isn't over. Judging by some of the attitudes on here back in WW 2 after Dunkirk most of you detractors would have just rung Adolf and said OK we surrender, we can't beat you!
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Marinerz93 |
December 31, 2014, 2:43pm |
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A friend of mine visited BP for the first time in 20+ years to see the Lincoln match. It was he that first got me going to watch town back in 1965 and we used to attend every home match and some away. He told me that he thought town played some decent football, was pleasantly surprised at some of the approach play and the main difference was that they took their chances and we didn't. This is from a guy who regularly watches live Premiersh*t games. Although this is only one opinion it does demonstrate how a performance can be interpreted differently by those watching. As for those on here who immediately " jumped down JF's throat ( getyourfactsright ) " for his post he, never blamed the fans for the performance , just tried to emphasise the need to keep backing the team and staff. His reference to " negativity " isn't a case of apportioning blame but just trying to keep looking at things with a positive frame of mind. We might have lost a battle but the war isn't over. Judging by some of the attitudes on here back in WW 2 after Dunkirk most of you detractors would have just rung Adolf and said OK we surrender, we can't beat you!
For a one off game fair comments but take your friend to a few more home games and lets see what he has to say. "What I fear is, we will not return to the Football Leauge anytime soon with all of this negativity" quoted from JF A tiny portion of the fan base isn't happy at the majority of clubs, a handful of posters on here isn't enough to create that fear that JF claims. On our relegation from the league what advice did JF give Lincoln to avoid relegation, I'm sure there was something about negativity from fans. If you are using WW2 as an analogy, as Town fans we have seen the apocalypse and now we are just hanging around waiting for our souls to be reaped.
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headingly_mariner |
December 31, 2014, 3:15pm |
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I think rather than blaming the fans the club need to be proactive in creating a positive atmosphere at the ground. The way the home support is set out is clearly an issue with the atmosphere drifting out of the top of one corner of the pontoon. I think a post on another thread from Ska Face had some really good and positive ideas about how the club could improve the atmosphere and work with the fans.
I think calling for the managers head at this stage is ridiculous, we are in a pretty good position, people get carried away with each win and loss, a lot of the season is left. It certainly doesn't help berating the players and the football is pretty representative of the level we are at.
If supporting a football team was about getting value for money, we would all have stopped years ago, especially at town!!!!
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TonySmith |
December 31, 2014, 5:53pm |
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Who actually thinks posting derogatory comments about the manager or the players is helping us to achieve promotion? Anyone? If so, please explain. If you want to vent, perhaps down the pub with your mates (where no-one who is actually working hard to get our club back into the league has to read it or hear about it) might be the way to go.Or you could just yell at the cat if that helps! God, I hope we win tomorrow!
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ginnywings |
December 31, 2014, 6:07pm |
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Who actually thinks posting derogatory comments about the manager or the players is helping us to achieve promotion? Anyone? If so, please explain. If you want to vent, perhaps down the pub with your mates (where no-one who is actually working hard to get our club back into the league has to read it or hear about it) might be the way to go.Or you could just yell at the cat if that helps! God, I hope we win tomorrow!
So, we are not allowed to vent on a fans forum? Heard it all now.
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TonySmith |
December 31, 2014, 6:12pm |
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Of course you are allowed to vent. I just want someone to explain how it's helpful. Surely, if it's more likely to have the opposite effect, then logically, as a Town fan who wants promotion as much as I do, you might think twice before you post.
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ginnywings |
December 31, 2014, 6:20pm |
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Of course you are allowed to vent. I just want someone to explain how it's helpful. Surely, if it's more likely to have the opposite effect, then logically, as a Town fan who wants promotion as much as I do, you might think twice before you post.
No, i won't think twice before i post. That's the whole point of a fans forum. I never ever give grief to the players at BP because that IS counter productive. If the venting of spleens on here is negatively affecting the players, then they shouldn't be looking. Seems to me it's the big crowds and weight of expectation that is getting to them when it should be inspiring them.
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