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Gary Haddock
November 1, 2012, 1:19pm

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Except that it's easier now to be promoted to the football league than it ever has been.


Not meaning to seem funny, but how is it? Only 2 teams go up. Should be no exceptions and 3 teams go up just like the leagues above.

Unless there use to be just 1 team that went up at some point?


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Not meaning to seem funny, but how is it? Only 2 teams go up. Should be no exceptions and 3 teams go up just like the leagues above.

Unless there use to be just 1 team that went up at some point?


The Re-election system of the Football League, in use until 1986, was a process where the worst placed clubs of the league had to reapply for their place in the league while non-league clubs could apply for a league place. It was the only way for a non-league side to enter the football league until direct promotion and relegation were introduced from the 1986–87 season onwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)


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It's only been two promotion spots for the past 5 years or so hasn't it? Don't remember any Town fans losing any sleep over that when we were in the Championship or League 1 or the 2nd Division or whatever we're calling it.
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The divide has definitely increased massively in the past twenty years which has to be a bad thing. I also agree that more should be done to stop clubs spending way beyond their means but that means clubs at all levels including our own and including us as a club. The truth is that clubs in the top divisions will usually attract bigger crowds, better players etc and success usually breeds more success. Huge money poured in through Sky and the majority goes to the top - but then who has a Sky subscription to watch Bristol City vs Hull rather than Chelsea vs Man Utd or Everton vs Liverpool. The biggest shame is that the huge money that came in through Sky hasn't worked its way to grass roots facilities and has instead ended up paying vastly inflated salaries. Man Utd, Liverpool etc are massively bigger clubs than us and have been since a long time before Sky got involved.


Definitely this.


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But they're 2 different sports!

How can you, on the one hand, want more competition, but on the other, want the PL and FL separated?


I think it would be more of a competition if they was seperated. Let's face it Burnley won't ever be in with a chance of winning the premier league, too much money involved but they do stand a chance of winning the championship. Just chose Burnley as an example but more than 4-6 clubs would in with a chance of winning the championship, where there's the premier league where only 4-6 clubs will be in with the chance (more likely to be 4 clubs really). More than 6 is better than just the same old 4-6 clubs, isn't it?

It's quite a complicated debate. Hard not to contradict.


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The Re-election system of the Football League, in use until 1986, was a process where the worst placed clubs of the league had to reapply for their place in the league while non-league clubs could apply for a league place. It was the only way for a non-league side to enter the football league until direct promotion and relegation were introduced from the 1986–87 season onwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)


Oh yes of course. Can't believe I forgot that.    


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I am going to leave this debate to the more intelligent. My head hurts.  


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I think it would be more of a competition if they was seperated. Let's face it Burnley won't ever be in with a chance of winning the premier league, too much money involved but they do stand a chance of winning the championship. Just chose Burnley as an example but more than 4-6 clubs would in with a chance of winning the championship, where there's the premier league where only 4-6 clubs will be in with the chance (more likely to be 4 clubs really). More than 6 is better than just the same old 4-6 clubs, isn't it?

It's quite a complicated debate. Hard not to contradict.


But what would be the point in winning the Championship if you didn't get promoted to the Premier League? As it is, the Championship winners are just that, and they're promoted. To only give half that prize would hardly make it more worthwhile, it'd do the opposite.

And at least football has this open promotion/relegation system, unlike Super League.


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Makes my fúcking blood boil.
There is so much money in football but is so top heavy. The paying public would obviously rather see Man United vs Chelsea  rather than Stevenage vs Yeovil but would it harm showing a few games each week from a lower divisons. To be fair Sky has improved as you occasionally see League 1 and 2 games on tv now but its still a rarity and fair play to ITV as im sure i saw the braintree vs tranmere? game is on there on sunday.
Still its not really good enough, how teams like Man City,Manure, Chelski etc. Who all have millions get extra due to this coverage whilst lower league team struggle to make ends meat and to make things even worst they all run into millions pound of debt even with sugar daddies at the helm and millions coming in through tv. Higher level football needs a serious reality check, the sooner a big club runs into serious financial trouble the better for the english game. Obviously its not just the higher division teams that are spending money they simply have but it happens at a much larger scale up there.


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But what would be the point in winning the Championship if you didn't get promoted to the Premier League? As it is, the Championship winners are just that, and they're promoted. To only give half that prize would hardly make it more worthwhile, it'd do the opposite.

And at least football has this open promotion/relegation system, unlike Super League.


Same could be said for premier league, there is no promotion from there. Champions league, that's for the top flight of the football league so that would go to championship along with europa league and well acording to premier league fans the FA cup and League cup are micky mouse cups so they wouldn't miss them. Let them have their big money bolloxed football, we'll have the football league and propper football (well of much as football we can sve anyway). I am sure the premier league will invent another european cup for rich european clubs.

My opinions are based on me being annoyed by fans expecting too much from a club that has little in funds. These fans are influenced by the premier league clubs and their spending habbits. I mean what do they expect from a club with limited funds? Maybe if these so called football fans started supporting their local club and put their money into the club then their local club would have more funds to play with and could end up like one of these bigs clubs.


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