Mark Clattenburg (Martin Pringle)

If Torres was to cautioned for diving that's what Ashley young should have received.

Clattenberg made some shocking decisions. Yes you can allow for human error but in the end his poor decision making had ruined the game and gifted it to man united.

Torres could have walked for his high tackle but he didn't, that was wrong. Ashley young went down again very very easily as did Torres but ivanovic walked yet jonny Evans knew he'd fouled Torres, his reaction proved that yet Torres receives the caution for diving.

At the speed that some of these guys run the faintest of touches will send you off balance or send you to the ground. I don't believe Torres would've gone down if it wasn't for the touch as he clearly would've got on the end of the pass and skipped past an ageing rio Ferdinand and scored a typical trademark Torres goal.

Some poor decisions all round this weekend. One thing we've always known though is clattenberg has always been excrement. As the OP states, he started badly that Tuesday night at BP when he didn't even book dave challinor...

And my first post was about the Challinor challenge on Pringle.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

When exactly did football become a non contact sport, where the faintest little bit of contact between two players is considered a foul? I must have missed that.

About 20 years ago. In this instance he stuck his leg out, missed the ball and caught the player. Its a foul, whether or not he fell like a sack of spuds.

In a league where its not uncommon to win a free kick with no contact at all I don't see why everyone is getting so wound up over this instance.

The first yellow was bordering on being a sending off offence anyway - he kicked him.

Oh well clattenburg (and challinor) are both twits - so is Danny Hickinbottom

Looks like Gutenberg will be reffing our league soon.

We don't want the clott down here we've enough clowns in black at this level anyway.

its interesting, all of you abusing the referee but i bet if you were in his shoes and we all abused you, you wouldn't like it. as for the payment, you can never pay a man enough for all the abuse he or even she will get, just for being the one controlling the game. Why don't you all become ref's, then you will see where Clattenburg is coming from? No? Didn't think so. When you've done what Clattenburg and the rest have done in their careers, THEN you can criticise. Jesus, someone get the sanity pills out, i'm losing mine right about now.

I'm not sure if it was a foul by Evans, its 50/50 for me but didnt Torres get booked for 'simulation'? if you watch the few seconds after he goes down he clutches his knee as if he's been injured seconds later when he's given the yellow card he bounces onto his supposed injured knees and is arguing the toss.

Unusually seems to be a massive over-reaction to this. The first sending off was nailed on and the offside winner was extremely tight. The only dubious decision is the Torres sending off and he probably should have got a red for the first yellow. Felt for Chelsea as they were comfortably the better team before the sendings-off and at 11 vs 11 I think they'd have won the game but the idea that this was some unbelievably dire set of decisions isn't really supported by what happened.

I'd also be curious to know how Clattenburg ruined Pringle's career - if he'd sent Challinor off would it have welded his leg back together? He should clearly have been sent off but Challinor, not Clattenburg ended Pringle's career.

"clipping" a player as he is running as Evans clearly did does not automaticaly constitute a free kick as its been said on this thread several times, football is a contact sport.

Torres clearly went down to earn an unfair advantage claiming he was fouled when he was not by deciding not to put his right leg in front of his left as is the norm when running! yellow card, well done referee!!