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Quoted from 123614

Or maybe because he was getting dogs abuse for the best part of the match.

And who's to blame for that?..he's presiding over our worse home form in 146 years, hardly going to be get "well done David old boy" from us is he?..and quite frankly, if the abuse makes him fook off, then happy days!!..

Next opponents don't need to waste much time watching videos of us. They could just read this thread.  Every individual analysed in minute detail.

Quoted from mariner91

Poor lamb, I wonder why he’s getting abuse from the stands.

Probably because the players are not up to it, and are not playing as instructed.

To all the people praising Clifton and Holohan…

You’re wrong.

Both are totally inept as central midfielders at this level.

I think Liam Rosenior hit the nail on the head a week or so ago talking about his Hull side. He spoke about players winning their individual duals.

If you strip back Clifton and Holohan and ignore the poor decision making, inadequate passing ability and poor positional intelligence what you are still left with 2 midfielders who never (and I mean never) win their individual dual/battle against the midfielder they are up against.

They both have a good engine and can add a few goals bursting into the box, but when you contrast that with the damage their weaknesses go to us then the negatives massively outweigh their positives.

I’m not saying we have a glaringly better solution to our midfield woes, but Holohan and Clifton in their when we don’t have a leader along side them doesn’t work.

The total lack of leaders in our biggest problem. Danny Rose being captain is a damning inditement on the rest of the squad.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

To all the people praising Clifton and Holohan…

You’re wrong.

Both are totally inept as central midfielders at this level.

I think Liam Rosenior hit the nail on the head a week or so ago talking about his Hull side. He spoke about players winning their individual duals.

If you strip back Clifton and Holohan and ignore the poor decision making, inadequate passing ability and poor positional intelligence what you are still left with 2 midfielders who never (and I mean never) win their individual dual/battle against the midfielder they are up against.

They both have a good engine and can add a few goals bursting into the box, but when you contrast that with the damage their weaknesses go to us then the negatives massively outweigh their positives.

I’m not saying we have a glaringly better solution to our midfield woes, but Holohan and Clifton in their when we don’t have a leader along side them doesn’t work.

The total lack of leaders in our biggest problem. Danny Rose being captain is a damning inditement on the rest of the squad.

I’d rather have Gav in there than any other of our options. Limited he may well be, but he at least creates and pops up with a goal.

Agree on Rose though, as much as I like him, leader he is not. We are 11 strangers on a football pitch

Quoted from GollyGTFC

To all the people praising Clifton and Holohan…

You’re wrong.

Both are totally inept as central midfielders at this level.

I think Liam Rosenior hit the nail on the head a week or so ago talking about his Hull side. He spoke about players winning their individual duals.

If you strip back Clifton and Holohan and ignore the poor decision making, inadequate passing ability and poor positional intelligence what you are still left with 2 midfielders who never (and I mean never) win their individual dual/battle against the midfielder they are up against.

They both have a good engine and can add a few goals bursting into the box, but when you contrast that with the damage their weaknesses go to us then the negatives massively outweigh their positives.

I’m not saying we have a glaringly better solution to our midfield woes, but Holohan and Clifton in their when we don’t have a leader along side them doesn’t work.

The total lack of leaders in our biggest problem. Danny Rose being captain is a damning inditement on the rest of the squad.

That's just nonsense. They're the only two in the squad who do win Battles, the issues yesterday were others not doing the same. Look at the first goal, 5 challenges not one won.  

The 2nd goal, loose pass from Clifton, Andrews is massive favourite to win it, waves a leg at it, loses is it, gets passed by Clifton who started 15 yards behind him.
I don't think Andrews won a battle all game, watch the first two minutes of the 2nd half again and it completely shows what Andrews is about, within a minute he's been megged on the halfway line and hasn't made any physical contact with the player who's done it.

Both Clifton and Holohan got 9 goals each last season, were part of a team that was 11th and got the the quarter final of the cup.
The issues are with team selection and players not knowing and doing their jobs.

Quoted from davmariner

Chiangmainer, Pontonlew, Northbank Mariner, Black and White Bear, and ska face, go on, have a go at defending that.

Quoted from davmariner

There’s an old saying that goes something along the lines of when you get personal, you’ve lost the argument.

Why is Clifton on the pitch? He misses chance after chance..yes he runs and runs but that's not enough. We should have sold him when we had offers  for him.

Thought I would have a change of scenery and watch some cricket.

Even more pathetic than the town team, if that's possible.

Fooking sport....