Wrexham striker Paul Mullin stirs up controversy

Quoted from Civvy at last

And that is why this board has gone downhill.
But just like the prem.
money talks and fu*k the real fans.

Ya need to lay off the bostick mate…

It was better in Billo's day when the moderators had to work on cricket messageboards during the summer to make ends meet.

Quoted from Maringer

Reality certainly does seem to have a left-wing bias, which is why so many right-wingers seem to rail against it.

I find it a very odd situation that bashing the tories publicly is such a celebrated thing, when they've won the last 3 elections and 7 of the last 12 with an 8th having more votes than labour but not enough to win. I get that they've been pretty excrement in general, but Labour created the almighty mess that we've spent 12 years trying to dig ourselves out of. A bit of control and foresight in that period would have meant much less pain for people in the austerity years.

Quoted from pen penfras

I find it a very odd situation that bashing the tories publicly is such a celebrated thing, when they've won the last 3 elections and 7 of the last 12 with an 8th having more votes than labour but not enough to win. I get that they've been pretty excrement in general, but Labour created the almighty mess that we've spent 12 years trying to dig ourselves out of. A bit of control and foresight in that period would have meant much less pain for people in the austerity years.

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Quoted from pen penfras

I find it a very odd situation that bashing the tories publicly is such a celebrated thing, when they've won the last 3 elections and 7 of the last 12 with an 8th having more votes than labour but not enough to win. I get that they've been pretty excrement in general, but Labour created the almighty mess that we've spent 12 years trying to dig ourselves out of. A bit of control and foresight in that period would have meant much less pain for people in the austerity years.

That’s untrue.

The main cause of the 2008 economic crisis was the deregulation of the banking sector leading to a global financial crash. The Conservative Party were still pushing for more deregulation of the sector in the 2000s.

Labour could have been more prudent but they couldn’t realistically have foreseen the global crash.

Net debt under Blair was at a similar level to under Major / Thatcher, despite the costs of trying to repair the problems caused by many of Thatcher’s short sighted policies (e.g. right to buy).  

Levels of net debt only increased after 2008 and the crash.

2008 was mostly due to the inevitable collapse of the banking sector due to American sub-prime mortgages and the fact that global institutions the world over had been trading on 'AAA' derivatives of said mortgages which weren't worth the paper they were written on. A massive failure of regulation, foresight and common sense throughout the banking world which required governments to fund the massive losses of financial institutions to avoid an even worse crash. And yet, we're all still in hock to these banks and so what profits them and their own. Not surprising when you consider that Sunak and Javid are both former bankers (as is Labour's useless Rachel Reeves).

The Big Short is an entertaining film which should be watched by anyone who harbours delusions that the last Labour government caused the recession. Pen Penfras, I'm talking to you here (though I'm open to the possibility that you're just out and out trolling).

Brown actually did very well during the crisis and stopped it becoming worse than it was through pushing both the BoE, the Fed and other national banks to keep the banks afloat using QE. The failure of Brown and all the rest was not to neuter the banks and the way in which QE was implemented is going to gift them massive profits now interest rates have rocketed up. Of course, the BoE could just cut the interest rate on the banks' current accounts, but they won't. Because Andrew Bailey is bloody useless as well!

Quoted from Maringer

2008 was mostly due to the inevitable collapse of the banking sector due to American sub-prime mortgages and the fact that global institutions the world over had been trading on 'AAA' derivatives of said mortgages which weren't worth the paper they were written on. A massive failure of regulation, foresight and common sense throughout the banking world which required governments to fund the massive losses of financial institutions to avoid an even worse crash. And yet, we're all still in hock to these banks and so what profits them and their own. Not surprising when you consider that Sunak and Javid are both former bankers (as is Labour's useless Rachel Reeves).

The Big Short is an entertaining film which should be watched by anyone who harbours delusions that the last Labour government caused the recession. Pen Penfras, I'm talking to you here (though I'm open to the possibility that you're just out and out trolling).

Brown actually did very well during the crisis and stopped it becoming worse than it was through pushing both the BoE, the Fed and other national banks to keep the banks afloat using QE. The failure of Brown and all the rest was not to neuter the banks and the way in which QE was implemented is going to gift them massive profits now interest rates have rocketed up. Of course, the BoE could just cut the interest rate on the banks' current accounts, but they won't. Because Andrew Bailey is bloody useless as well!

Yes, a big shout for The Big Short and Gordon Brown for his gunboat diplomacy.

I retired in 2008 and received a pension lump sum. My wife went away for the weekend instructing me to deposit said sum into a high interest bank account and then to wash the kitchen floor. After Mullin it over, I chose to put £30,000 into an Icelandic bank account. Kaupthing Bank collapsed along with nearly everything else in Iceland. Gordon Brown rescued my retirement lump sum by some naval chicanery and got all English based accounts transferred to a Belgian Bank which released the money 6 months later.

Tha Cameron campaign used the slogan broken Britain to win the Election.

That phrase is once again all over the newspapers today.

12 years and we are worse off than ever.

Quoted from mariner91

Imagine being daft enough to think that the moderators of a League 2 football club fans forum get paid.

I am fully aware they don’t get paid. Never stated that they do ??
But as always, our resident lefties read into any statement exactly what they want to read.   If the mods are happy to let non footy threads stay on footy boards . Then I’m happy fishing.
You lefties do bite quite easily though.
UTM

Quoted from Civvy at last

I am fully aware they don’t get paid. Never stated that they do ??
But as always, our resident lefties read into any statement exactly what they want to read.   If the mods are happy to let non footy threads stay on footy boards . Then I’m happy fishing.
You lefties do bite quite easily though.
UTM

You do realise that literally nobody is offended by the term lefty? Just makes people that use it as a derogatory term seem a tad sad…