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Biccys
September 22, 2011, 10:44am
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No, JF is meant to leave the club as soon as possible to allow a new chairman and board to be appointed, then I suspect a new investor, whomever that may be, will come forward. I suspect that the ego of JF has dissauded many a potential investor and they're simply waiting until he's gone completely before showing their hand.

Just a guess but I think it makes some sense if the rumours of JF's alleged ego trips are to be believed.


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September 22, 2011, 10:49am

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Just in case it's got lost somewhere in all this i would just like to remind Mr. parker and Mr.Fenty what is at stake here. No one forced either of them to put their money into the club but the moment they did they took on a responsibility. GTFC is not a play thing. It's been around a lot longer than either of them and their millions. Having money doesn't necessarily make you happier but what it does is give you more choices. They both chose to put money into the club. Grimsby Town FC is not Woolworths or the News of the World. Grimsby Town FC can not be replaced, rebranded or closed due to unforseen circumstances. It must carry on, it's such a big part of the community. I suggest they get their acts together, realise their responsibilities and stop behaving like Peter Andre and Jordan and sort this mess out so we can all get back to what we do best...Supporting GTFC.


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Quoted from sonik
what i dont understand is we are safe this season for funding as the pair of them are going toe to toe, but anyone with any sense knows you have to forward plan with any buisness, quite clearly mike parker has said he will not put any more funds into the his club next season, so is john fenty supposed to fund his buisness and keep bankrolling until we eventually get good fortunes for mike then to say thanks very mutch john ill run the job now.


no, he hasn't actually said that sonik. parker said that when planning for next season, don't assume my financial contribution, which is subtly different.
if mp is waiting for good times ,he might be waiting for a long time!
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Rather than waiting for the club to have good fortunes again and then taking over, I'd have thought it's more the case of waiting until John Fenty has to let the whole thing go at a knockdown price, then Parker/whoever makes a move ?
Is that a fair guess   ?


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what i dont understand is we are safe this season for funding as the pair of them are going toe to toe, but anyone with any sense knows you have to forward plan with any buisness, quite clearly mike parker has said he will not put any more funds into the his club next season, so is john fenty supposed to fund his buisness and keep bankrolling until we eventually get good fortunes for mike then to say thanks very mutch john ill run the job now.


Sorry but with JF in charge I am not optimistic the good times would eventually arrive...


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Quoted from 1600
What does he actually want ?


My guess is to take over the club and get rid of Fenty.

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When asked about his long term commitment he makes no guarantees but expects Fenty to do so ?  


He's trying to force Fenty into a corner - my guess is its a negotiation tactic

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He says "I have no ambitions to run the football club" but is willing to go off and seek people who might do.
Now fair enough, I've no problem with that - maybe he is protecting his investment or protecting the club.


Again a negotiating tactic. If he had no ambitions to tun the club why would he have said he'll come back on the board as Chairman and ploughed in 1.25 million?

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But was he sticking his money in out of the goodness of his heart before, but now he can't make up his mind ?


I doubt it very much, I think he probably came into it looking to share responsibility with Fenty, but when he saw how the club operated - especially the board, he realised that it was never going to work. He therefore cleverly put the extra money into shares so that he could play the long game and take over himself.

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He talked about a "long term commitment" (with Fenty) 1 year before so is it now perhaps based on the Fenty factor ?


See above - he's realised it will never work with Fenty on board, and is now playing hardball by saying he won't put in any more money.

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Is he only prepared to only financially support "long term" with Fenty out the way and that's why he's insisting Fenty makes his financial position "very very clear" ?


YES! I think this whole saga is in relation to how much MP is going to have to pay JF off in order to take full control and replace the board with his own men.

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But how so when Parker says:
"I don't know how many more times I can make it clear that I have no intentions to cut across John's position in that club."


Unlike JF he is media savvy, and this again falls into the negotiating tactics category.

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Or is it just more b0llocks ?i.e I don't intend to but I won't say I won't !  


None of us know for sure, but I'm pretty sure he wants to take over and some of things he is saying are just part of the overall game plan.

I hope I'm right.

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September 22, 2011, 11:08am

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Financially Fenty has done a good job. He's aways found more money, made new signings above the budget on occasion. Yes he's wasted a lot of money paying dodgy managers off, but we've never been in a position where there is any risk of running out of cash. That has all changed now. The Fenty years could be golden compared to what is to follow. Speak to fans like  those of Chester and Rushden and they'd have snapped your hand off to have Fenty as chairman.


an incredible post, fenty (& the board) have overspent to a ridiculous extreme.  we are out of money, fenty just continued to add to his loans secured on the ground.  fenty (& the board) has taken us to a financial position that isn't entirely disimilar to chester & rushden, it's just that we owe fenty himself rather than hmrc & other creditors
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The only way to prove or disprove the theory that Fenty is the stumbling block re other people wanting to join the board / invest in the club is for Ian Fleming to be appointed as a temporary director and for Fenty to resign fully from the board - at the minute nothing has changed other than his 'title'.

It's my opinion that Fenty knows that he is the stumbling block and will continue to be so while he still remains a director - and he knows full well that the chances of anybody wanting to join the board or invest while he is still there are slim.

This gives him exactly what he wants - he wants to ride in on his horse and 'save the day' because he will claim nobody is interested in taking the job on, and all the Fentyites will lap it up, just like they have all of his propaganda and attempts to rewrite history via the official site and the GET.

Stand down from the board completely and then see if anyone comes forward.
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Its called " Problem , Reaction , Solution"  The Gov'ment use these tactics all the time!!

For example, A problem is created ----- Chairman Resigns
                    The Reaction  ------ Fans get worried that the club will fold etc etc etc
                      Solution   ------------- The chairman returns to save the day!!!!! everyone is happy and relieved to have him/her back at the helm!!!!!!!

To be honest only a fool would fall for this but and its a big BUT !!!! Millions fall for it everyday of the week!!!


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Which is why I think MP will not take any further interests in GTFC until JF has left completely. He's clearly wanting MP to buy his share of the club to recoup some of his money, which I understand, but I also doubt MP is daft enough to pay JF a bean unless he has assurances he will leave the club completely. Again, all speculation.


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