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mimma
May 17, 2023, 6:46pm
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Toney has been found guilty of betting and has been given an EIGHT MONTH ban. Seems excessive to me, he didn't try to fix games but just have a bet on games that he couldn't have influenced.
Big fines yes, and a suspended sentence so if he does it again he gets banned, and help with his addiction would have been a better way of approaching this. Brentford are the big losers for something beyond their control.

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Given that Luis Suarez was banned 8 months for racism makes it seem very excessive.
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Given that Luis Suarez was banned 8 months for racism makes it seem very excessive.


Or you look at it the other way and say Suarez’ ban was lenient…

Toney received a punishment he deserved I guess, regardless of him not betting on things he can influence, the rules are pretty clear. Didn’t Bradley Wood get a similar ban?

I’d like to think Toney is also getting access to the correct support to help him move on from what is clearly a problem for him.

There’s a wider debate that continues to rumble on about football and betting but if you out your human hat on, it’s quite sad really, a no doubt talented lad that I have no doubt would’ve been in the england squad for a World Cup and possibly other tournaments has likely seen that chance in the short term disappear, sad really…


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Footballers are expressly told that they can't bet on football matches. He's been found guilty of 232 breaches over a 4 year period.

Maybe he's being made an example of because the FA can afford to ban a player from Brentford. If he played for Liverpool, Man U or Man City it might be altogether different.


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May 17, 2023, 6:56pm
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I knew it was coming but hoped it might be much less severe.

The only crumb of comfort is that Brentford have always managed to replace players that have moved on, especially goalscorers. Toney is immensely talented though and offers much more than goals.

He may well have moved on had he not had the ban hanging over him and Brentford will still be a selling club despite their PL status as David Raya's imminent move demonstrates.

Fingers crossed.

I'll be running two STs again for 2023-24.

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Or you look at it the other way and say Suarez’ ban was lenient…

Toney received a punishment he deserved I guess, regardless of him not betting on things he can influence, the rules are pretty clear. Didn’t Bradley Wood get a similar ban?

I’d like to think Toney is also getting access to the correct support to help him move on from what is clearly a problem for him.

There’s a wider debate that continues to rumble on about football and betting but if you out your human hat on, it’s quite sad really, a no doubt talented lad that I have no doubt would’ve been in the england squad for a World Cup and possibly other tournaments has likely seen that chance in the short term disappear, sad really…


Bradley Wood got 6 years in 2018! His was blatant match fixing that included one of his mates placing a very large bet on him to get booked with William Hill.
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Bradley Wood got 6 years in 2018! His was blatant match fixing that included one of his mates placing a very large bet on him to get booked with William Hill.


Then I’d argue that Toney’s over 200 breaches is lenient…


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Then I’d argue that Toney’s over 200 breaches is lenient…


Depends on the breach? He's placed an average of 1.25 bets per week for 4 years, and there isn't any detail on the bets, but it clearly wasn't match-fixing.

Lincoln did extremely well out of Bradley Wood getting booked that night; Ipswich took a terrible free kick in the last minute, Lincoln went up the other end and Nathan Arnold rounded the keeper to send them through. Without that intent to get booked and earn his mates a few quid, who knows what would have happened?
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Restraint of trade if it's in matches he has no influence in.


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By banning him from football, they have given him a long time with nothing to do with a excrement load of money. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for punishing wrong doing, but he needs help with his addiction, and this isn't it. In this case, a suspended ban would have done the trick, since if he gets caught again, then yes ban him for 8 months.
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