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GollyGTFC
May 18, 2023, 3:42pm

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Quoted from OddShapedBalls


That's a bit....national socialist..isn't it?  Or is there genuinely a crime gene? I'm gonna google it for several hours and find out now lol



It does sound a bit like he’s been reading Galton’s theory on Eugenics.
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Quoted from OddShapedBalls

That's a bit....national socialist..isn't it?  Or is there genuinely a crime gene? I'm gonna google it for several hours and find out now lol


Quoted from GollyGTFC


It does sound a bit like he’s been reading Galton’s theory on Eugenics.


Non-football, but here's a few links:

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/genetic-factors-and-criminal-behavior

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180530-the-controversial-debut-of-genes-in-criminal-cases

https://bsj.berkeley.edu/born-to-kill-the-story-of-serial-killer-genes/

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29760212




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May 18, 2023, 4:41pm

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How many times did you get it up this season? I hope it didn’t happen when Mrs Brechin had a headache.


There is no Mrs Brechin! Apart from my 93-year old mum that is.  


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It’s called Spot Fixing. Match fixing is deliberately influencing the result of the match as is a much more serious offence. As you said he got himself booked deliberately.


I'll was hoping Bradley would have told me the truth to this but there is always that small element of not wanting to embarrass himself but says he had nothing to do with that you cant control your friends if they want to place bets on you.  


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Quoted from grimsby pete
I don't think Toney is addicted if he only had  1-25 bets a week. Surely he would have been at the bookies every day of he had an addiction..

8 months seems a bit harsh to the offence but the FA are stamping down on it to put other players off I suppose.A bit of help  and support with a suspended sentence would have been a fairer way to go in my opinion.

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In the 60-s 3 Sheffield Wed players were banned for life but they Were betting their team losing so deserved everything they got.
Peter Swan. Tony Kay and Bronco Layne.  All good players but very stupid.  Swan and Kay had played for England.


Swan , and his family, ran a pub in the suburbs of Chesterfield in later life, have used it last few times we have played them, alot of his  memorabilia on the walls and he used to sit in the corner of the bar supping a pint , sadly suffering from i think dementia.
Knew nothing of his story until I went in there. Was hotly tipped to take over or rival Gordon Banks for no.1 spot.

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If only Swann had put his bets on Scunny losing every week he'd be laughing
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If you are a massive football club, owned by a nation state and continuously break the FFP rules, you just pay a bit of a fine and carry on.

If you are a footballer, with obvious mental health issues and you break the rules, you get fined and banned from attending your football club for eight months - taking away the one support group that has pledged to stand by you.

Given the amount of betting sponsorship in the game in this country, are the FA simply blaming errant players rather than looking at the deep rooted, gambling culture, that they condone, and no doubt, support.



"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." (Jimi Hendrix)
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You obviously don't understand the facts about addiction!

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If I was earning millions of pounds a year playing football and was aware that I might get banned for a substantial amount of time if I bet on football (and therefore, no doubt, lose a lot of his salary), I think I'd make the considered decision not to bet on football.

You can bet on racehorses, greyhounds and practically anything else you can imagine if you really feel the urge, but football? Nope.




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Quoted from malkamalka
If you are a massive football club, owned by a nation state and continuously break the FFP rules, you just pay a bit of a fine and carry on.

If you are a footballer, with obvious mental health issues and you break the rules, you get fined and banned from attending your football club for eight months - taking away the one support group that has pledged to stand by you.

Given the amount of betting sponsorship in the game in this country, are the FA simply blaming errant players rather than looking at the deep rooted, gambling culture, that they condone, and no doubt, support.



When Jay Rollins at Boston got banned, he was out with an ACL injury (or similar) that he sustained in the pre-season game against us. He wasn't even allowed to have the club take care of his rehab whilst he was banned, and had to sort it all out privately himself.
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