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Chrisblor
May 7, 2023, 12:13pm

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If nobody wants to watch lower league football why have BT Sport been televising National League football for the last 10 years? Sorry but I don't buy the argument that nobody would bother watching it - it's clearly viable otherwise BT wouldn't be sending a presenter, two pundits, commentators and multiple camera operators off to Woking / Chesterfield / Solihull etc practically every week.


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But they’re not wrong really are they? Aside from fat yanks in Arkansas and a few not real football fans that saw a documentary about Salford, nobody does want to watch league 2 football.

You kgint pick the odd football nerd but but in truth, the championship clubs aren’t wrong.

Someone mentioned about cheaper ticket prices to fill grounds…nice idea but won’t happen. Premier attendances are some of the most consistent in Europe and are full every week so no worry there, although in Spain they do have to fill the stands visible to the camera.

I know it’s cool for lower league fans to hate the premier league etc but whatever anyones opinion, they’ve built a huge brand that sees sellouts even for non entity games…


I must be a nerd then ,i have preferred lower league and non league for about 10 years - been to a good few Premiership games as a neutral and it just does not do it for me .

I honestly had a better time at Weymouth than i than I have had at any of those souless glory seeking places , i just enjoy that it's more real i think .
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Wouldn't discount viewing figures from Asia either because of gambling.
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Quoted from Chrisblor
If nobody wants to watch lower league football why have BT Sport been televising National League football for the last 10 years? Sorry but I don't buy the argument that nobody would bother watching it - it's clearly viable otherwise BT wouldn't be sending a presenter, two pundits, commentators and multiple camera operators off to Woking / Chesterfield / Solihull etc practically every week.


Because they get the whole package including fees to clubs for games covered for peanuts less then. £0.5m a season compared to the £900m to be paid  by Sky for EFL. Presumambly because that is all it’s worth.
With BT sports now owned by WarnerBrothers/ Duscovery would be suprised if they continue coverage when the current deal expires . The National League is putting together it’s own streaming platform which is where all football will end up eventually
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Quoted from Chrisblor
If nobody wants to watch lower league football why have BT Sport been televising National League football for the last 10 years? Sorry but I don't buy the argument that nobody would bother watching it - it's clearly viable otherwise BT wouldn't be sending a presenter, two pundits, commentators and multiple camera operators off to Woking / Chesterfield / Solihull etc practically every week.


It’s costs them mere pennies to buy the rights to conference football. They just use it as a marketing platform, didn’t we work out the GTFC essentially lost money by having a game moved last year? You get about £6.50 and some bottles of pop to be on the telly if you’re down there.

The cost is showing conference football is no doubt completely offset against the cash made from their investment in exclusive champions league rights alone…

No doubt people enjoy lower league football and I watch as much of that as anything else but let’s not kid ourselves that TV people see big numbers…I’d be interested to see the viewing figures for our playoff final, probably similar to our semi final I’d imagine but even with yanks and random bods in the far east betting on it, I can’t imagine it was 6 figures, if it was I’d be amazed if it’s anymore than 300k…

It’s great that lower league does get shown on TV but the money that cascades down isn’t millions and unlike the top two divisions that can make big use of tv money, I don’t think it’ll be adding too much to our kitty…


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It’s costs them mere pennies to buy the rights to conference football. They just use it as a marketing platform, didn’t we work out the GTFC essentially lost money by having a game moved last year? You get about £6.50 and some bottles of pop to be on the telly if you’re down there.

The cost is showing conference football is no doubt completely offset against the cash made from their investment in exclusive champions league rights alone…

No doubt people enjoy lower league football and I watch as much of that as anything else but let’s not kid ourselves that TV people see big numbers…I’d be interested to see the viewing figures for our playoff final, probably similar to our semi final I’d imagine but even with yanks and random bods in the far east betting on it, I can’t imagine it was 6 figures, if it was I’d be amazed if it’s anymore than 300k…

It’s great that lower league does get shown on TV but the money that cascades down isn’t millions and unlike the top two divisions that can make big use of tv money, I don’t think it’ll be adding too much to our kitty…


300k is 6 figures. But I'd be amazed if it was even that high without Wrexham
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300k is 6 figures. But I'd be amazed if it was even that high without Wrexham


Exactly. That’s kinda my point, even with the media machine behind Reynolds FC you’d be hard pushed to hit 300k.

We all love our clubs and we all love lower league football but we need to take off the rose tinted goggles when looking at stuff like this.


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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It's going to make it harder for fans to watch games with lots of lunchtime kickoffs. As usual little thought has been given to the paying spectator. Away crowds are likely to drop and season ticket holders facing long journeys will have to make a decision. Likely to have an impact on games at BP. 8 camera angles will be much better than what we can now watch online. But without an atmosphere the games are not as enjoyable. Much better at BP with a big vocal away following.


How many big vocal away followings do we get? not many.
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How many big vocal away followings do we get? not many.


Stockport, Bradford and Hartlepool are the ones that come to mind this season. The others I thought may have had decent followings , Donny and Swindon, I can’t remember so couldn’t have been that good


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Stockport, Bradford and Hartlepool are the ones that come to mind this season. The others I thought may have had decent followings , Donny and Swindon, I can’t remember so couldn’t have been that good


Donny sold out, but Swindon nowhere near.
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