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I don't think it will be condemned anytime soon . Like I have said before it's not capacity that's the number one issue for me it's the facilities/views and general state of the place - it might pull on the heartstrings from a nostalgic point of view but not much more for me .
When you go to NLS games and the facilities are better you realise how far behind we are .
There must be 500 to a 1000 seats where you can't see half the pitch - back of Osmond and The Main being prime examples . You wouldn't go to a cinema if you could only see half the screen would you ? and if you did would be piping up for a refund (the fact people have love and loyalty for the club means they will pay £20 + for something they will only half see).
The same with the disabled facilities , they are just not fit for purpose .
Even if we only ever have the 6000 hardcore support forever they deserve better imo , surely there are grants available for improving disabled facilities - I thought Stockwood & Cook actually talked about improving them a couple of years ago ? But as yet nothing has happened
It's not the boards fault by any means but to move forward medium to long term it has to be a priority much more than many seem to think ; I suppose an indication of if we can make any substantial improvements will be if the training ground can be delivered and funded for - I can't imagine raising the 6million quid + will be easy for that tbf .
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Does anyone know why the new training faciolities will cost £6m? It seems a staggering amount to me. Not sure why that is seen as more important than the stadium.
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I don't think it will be condemned anytime soon . Like I have said before it's not capacity that's the number one issue for me it's the facilities/views and general state of the place - it might pull on the heartstrings from a nostalgic point of view but not much more for me .
When you go to NLS games and the facilities are better you realise how far behind we are .
There must be 500 to a 1000 seats where you can't see half the pitch - back of Osmond and The Main being prime examples . You wouldn't go to a cinema if you could only see half the screen would you ? and if you did would be piping up for a refund (the fact people have love and loyalty for the club means they will pay £20 + for something they will only half see).
The same with the disabled facilities , they are just not fit for purpose .
Even if we only ever have the 6000 hardcore support forever they deserve better imo , surely there are grants available for improving disabled facilities - I thought Stockwood & Cook actually talked about improving them a couple of years ago ? But as yet nothing has happened
It's not the boards fault by any means but to move forward medium to long term it has to be a priority much more than many seem to think ; I suppose an indication of if we can make any substantial improvements will be if the training ground can be delivered and funded for - I can't imagine raising the 6million quid + will be easy for that tbf .
I totally agree but improvements need to be prioritised. It was obvious that when JS and AP took over they identified the playing surface and training facilities as requiring immediate improvements and rightly so IMO. They also consulted the fans, listened and implemented some of the suggestions ie fanzone and the clear screening in the Upper Youngs to improve viewing in the lower seats. The work on the Pontoon roof was unexpected but still needed to be done. Some interim work was done on the Main Stand roof structure and, as I understand it, a lot more work is planned for this summer. Everything can't be done at once but at least the owners are working on ground improvements, especially the Main Stand, which was sadly lacking during the "reign" of the previous incumbent. |
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Sooner or later the Main Stand is surely going to be condemned, the Osmond with it. So what is going to happen then?
It’s not just the stand (structure) itself. i’d think it’s likely to be the changing rooms, media/press facilities, catering/hospitality and, as someone quite rightly mentioned, the disabled facilities. It all costs money which we haven’t got and at a wild guess, could maybe be around £5m-£10m to get both the osmond and main stand done, that’s even if they (the council) allow us to do it in the first place. |
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Well I can see I'm banging my head on a brick wall here, but Wrexham got £25m of government cash for ONE stand. Bury (virtually not even in existence) had government cash thrown at them to buy the old Gigg Lane for them, even Brigg Town had government cash recently, and that's before we look at how Scunny got their ground just a few months ago. WHY do people think that we should not get government cash, to either build a brand new faciliity, or improve the oldest structure in the football league?
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Agree completely, I sit in the Upper and to be honest though clearly it's a much better view than the Main the facilities are poor and it's not a great experience.
Likewise. I live locally still so generally have lunch at home before the game. I would and have supported the club via trust bar and fanzone one you struggle to get served in and the other the prices are in my opinion ridiculous so I head into to Clps. Not sure how much revenue they lose cos of what I've mentioned but it needs looking at. I liked the beer fridge near the turnstiles last season but clearly it was in the wrong place and space is limited within the ground. If were staying at BP longterm I'd buy the BP Hotel and revamp it. |
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Well I can see I'm banging my head on a brick wall here, but Wrexham got £25m of government cash for ONE stand. Bury (virtually not even in existence) had government cash thrown at them to buy the old Gigg Lane for them, even Brigg Town had government cash recently, and that's before we look at how Scunny got their ground just a few months ago. WHY do people think that we should not get government cash, to either build a brand new faciliity, or improve the oldest structure in the football league?
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Likewise. I live locally still so generally have lunch at home before the game. I would and have supported the club via trust bar and fanzone one you struggle to get served in and the other the prices are in my opinion ridiculous so I head into to Clps. Not sure how much revenue they lose cos of what I've mentioned but it needs looking at. I liked the beer fridge near the turnstiles last season but clearly it was in the wrong place and space is limited within the ground. If were staying at BP longterm I'd buy the BP Hotel and revamp it.
I was talking to Archie Needham’s son in a bar last year and he owned the BP Hotel & had it up for sale oddly enough. |
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surely not
"Listed Buildings are buildings and structures defined by the Secretary of State as being of “special architectural or historic interest”. They include buildings and structures that are deemed to be of importance on a national scale" The Ice Factory has, so why not a Football Stand? It is unique. |
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Agree completely, I sit in the Upper and to be honest though clearly it's a much better view than the Main the facilities are poor and it's not a great experience.
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