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mariner91
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Quoted from David Frazer
Why dont you have a fund raiser like the promotion one ?  


You mean when the fans stuck by the club and coughed up a load of money to try and help in an ultimately successful promotion attempt? As opposed to completely abandoning the club when it's at it's lowest ebb and only returning when an FA cup run means there's a good chance of seeing a big club in a later round?
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Hospitals was one club I believe.
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N E Lincs Council are a problem not a solution.  Would they grant permission to rebuild, and the residents wouldn't lie down and let us build it. When it comes to planning permission our council are notorious for dragging out planning permission and kicking into the long grass. They don't seem to understand the importance of our club to the area and beyond so won't break a sweat to help with funding either, though to fair they don't have the cash to help us in the first place.
I would love to see Blundell Park redeveloped but being pragmatic I cannot see it happening, and if it did, it would be many years before it would happen.
Sorry to be so negative fellas

UTM


Just imagine the uproar from the short-sighted, non-football supporting poll tax payers if the Council used funds to improve a private football ground that benefited only 6% of the NE Lincs population. We fans know that there are loads of other benefits to be gained by an improved BP but Joe Public just sees the vast amount spent and asks the question " how does that benefit me". You only have to see the publics reaction to Council spending in community areas funded by Central Government to know what their reaction would be. Even now there is so much adverse reaction to necessary safety  roadworks on the A180 and the work on Corporation Bridge ( which has to be done because it is a listed structure) , that you can predict the local population's reaction.


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Quoted from mimma
N E Lincs Council are a problem not a solution.  Would they grant permission to rebuild, and the residents wouldn't lie down and let us build it. When it comes to planning permission our council are notorious for dragging out planning permission and kicking into the long grass. They don't seem to understand the importance of our club to the area and beyond so won't break a sweat to help with funding either, though to fair they don't have the cash to help us in the first place.
I would love to see Blundell Park redeveloped but being pragmatic I cannot see it happening, and if it did, it would be many years before it would happen.
Sorry to be so negative fellas

UTM


With all respect getting planning consent is an imaginary issue. We’ve 120 yrs of history of use of the site as a football ground. At 12k capacity - the capacity that the site can take according to the study done when BP went all seater, we are way below historic capacity. Traffic impact has changed for the worse but that can be dealt with contributions to enhanced match day public transport. If the council refused consent they would lose on appeal - there are way too many precedents nationally. Money - now that’s a different matter…

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Quoted from mimma
N E Lincs Council are a problem not a solution.  Would they grant permission to rebuild, and the residents wouldn't lie down and let us build it. When it comes to planning permission our council are notorious for dragging out planning permission and kicking into the long grass. They don't seem to understand the importance of our club to the area and beyond so won't break a sweat to help with funding either, though to fair they don't have the cash to help us in the first place.
I would love to see Blundell Park redeveloped but being pragmatic I cannot see it happening, and if it did, it would be many years before it would happen.
Sorry to be so negative fellas

UTM


No reason at all to think planning is a problem with development within footprint of BP . The only development that woukd affect residence an upward expansion of main stand isn’t physically possible anyway . Filling in the corners  extending Findus etc would be no issue for planning .
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With all respect getting planning consent is an imaginary issue. We’ve 120 yrs of history of use of the site as a football ground. At 12k capacity - the capacity that the site can take according to the study done when BP went all seater, we are way below historic capacity. Traffic impact has changed for the worse but that can be dealt with contributions to enhanced match day public transport. If the council refused consent they would lose on appeal - there are way too many precedents nationally. Money - now that’s a different matter…



The history didn't help us with planning permission when we tried to relocate to Great Coates did it? It took ten years of backwards and forwards before we got it by which time the project was dead in the water
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The history didn't help us with planning permission when we tried to relocate to Great Coates did it? It took ten years of backwards and forwards before we got it by which time the project was dead in the water


120 years of occupation at the same site counts for "jack shi*t" if that site gradually becomes totally enclosed with housing right up to the site boundary.


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Quoted from David Frazer
Why dont you have a fund raiser like the promotion one ?  


Love your messages. Keep them coming , you are a sad creep with a lot of time on your hands but you do make me laugh
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Love your messages. Keep them coming , you are a sad creep with a lot of time on your hands but you do make me laugh


On the plus side, any time he spends on here is time he’s not out noncing, so there’s a silver lining to the poorly written, meandering bóllocks he bores us all to tears with.



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The history didn't help us with planning permission when we tried to relocate to Great Coates did it? It took ten years of backwards and forwards before we got it by which time the project was dead in the water


From what I gather having had a cursory glance at the history, didn’t the Council grant permission on 2 or 3 separate occasions from 2000 up to 2007 in various guises? The big issue was with the land owner (Sutton Estates) deciding not to release the land on the terms agreed back in 2003?

The club had outline permission in 2007 but let that lapse and never submitted a more detailed application after that.

The Peaks Parkway farce never even made it as far as an application. Extreme Leisure had an exclusive agreement for 5 years from 2017 to purchase the land, subject to obtaining necessary permissions, but that disappeared up a half pipe.

There seems to be a bit of a misconception about the role of the Council in the whole saga. From what I can see the project has been killed stone dead primarily because of petty individual disagreements (who can forget a topless Fenty dumping a tub of water on his head to have a dig a De Freitas?) and a lack of any real appetite to find the money to deliver it.
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