Tuesday Night Games at the Bottom (MERGED)

People from the outside looking in will see our games in hand and GD & would probably say we’ve a decent chance of staying up (cannot believe it’s come to this).

Based on PPG we probably need 4 or 5 wins in the last 14 games to stay up, if 3 of those are against the bottom 4 then it’ll almost certainly seal it. However, we absolutely have to start picking those points up now, Saturday is an absolute must win, not just for the points but the mentality of the squad.

I’d last night wasn’t the worst set of results, if you told me that one of the teams that played had won, I’d have preferred it to be Sutton than the others. We really need Colchester to be sucked into the scrap as opposed to 3 of us playing for 1 spot.

Things could look extremely different on Saturday, hopefully in our favour.

I know the owners have backed the manager but I think he will be gone if we lose on Sat. They wouldn’t just let us sink without giving it a chance surely . That said , I hope we get the desperately needed win . Realistically it all points to a draw and ‘as you were’

Quoted from pontoonlew

People from the outside looking in will see our games in hand and GD & would probably say we’ve a decent chance of staying up (cannot believe it’s come to this).

Based on PPG we probably need 4 or 5 wins in the last 14 games to stay up, if 3 of those are against the bottom 4 then it’ll almost certainly seal it. However, we absolutely have to start picking those points up now, Saturday is an absolute must win, not just for the points but the mentality of the squad.

I’d last night wasn’t the worst set of results, if you told me that one of the teams that played had won, I’d have preferred it to be Sutton than the others. We really need Colchester to be sucked into the scrap as opposed to 3 of us playing for 1 spot.

Things could look extremely different on Saturday, hopefully in our favour.

My big worry is the players, they dont look like a group who have any belief in themselves to drag us out of this. I hope he sticks with harry at right back and the 2 up top.

It is squeaky bum time now for sure. Never thought this season would end in a relegation scrap. I think even most of the bookmakers had us safely placed in the table before kick-off of the first game.
I still believe that we have a good chance to avoid relegation, provided that the team's effort shown in the last match continues. If everything goes wrong for Artell, we have Shaun and Ben who demonstrated their ability to earn points for the team earlier in the season, so in the worst-case scenario, they can take over until the end of the season and hopefully do enough to keep us up.

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Its more than squeaky bum time . And its for next season as much as this that worries me. Its clear that we do not have the money to compete at the top end of div 2 let alone div 1..I aplaud JS & AP for spending their money to get rid of fenty and can  clearly run and make money in business  but football is no ordanary business. Anyone who thinks they can run a football club and make money enough to keep going forward needs their bumps felt.. It needs money pelting in to it just to stand still. And that will not happen so we will just keep going backwards on the pitch apart from the odd game or two. The future looks a bit grim and the mighty mariners are just mariners all at sea a rough one at that

Quoted from denni266

Its more than squeaky bum time . And its for next season as much as this that worries me. Its clear that we do not have the money to compete at the top end of div 2 let alone div 1..I aplaud JS & AP for spending their money to get rid of fenty and can  clearly run and make money in business  but football is no ordanary business. Anyone who thinks they can run a football club and make money enough to keep going forward needs their bumps felt.. It needs money pelting in to it just to stand still. And that will not happen so we will just keep going backwards on the pitch apart from the odd game or two. The future looks a bit grim and the mighty mariners are just mariners all at sea a rough one at that

On the pitch it's difficult to compete at the top end but there are anomalies - Crewe ,Morecambe ,Harrogate and Barrow are far out performing their budgets you would suspect this season . We no doubt are underperforming badly against the budget we have . I think it was more the recruitment in hindsight was just really really bad - Eastwood , Wilson , Vernam , Pyke , Rodgers etc have all not played many minutes or in Rodgers case been poor .

If we want to be bigger hitters ,further investment is undoubtedly needed  for the longer term though.

Assuming we do relegated (into what will be a pretty weak NL) does anyone on here have any confidence that Artell would take us back up?

Quoted from forza ivano

Assuming we do relegated (into what will be a pretty weak NL) does anyone on here have any confidence that Artell would take us back up?

I personally don’t see both Town going down and Artell still being here is a likely scenario, but to answer your question there are very few managers who have won promotion from the National League in their first season in non-league. I can’t name any off the top of my head.

If we go down we go down, at least the fans can hold their hands up and say this time it definitely wasn’t anything to do with us.

Not sure I can manage another summer of interviews with signings saying “massive club at this level, should be a league club really”. The thought knocks me ill 🤢

Quoted from denni266

Its more than squeaky bum time . And its for next season as much as this that worries me. Its clear that we do not have the money to compete at the top end of div 2 let alone div 1..I aplaud JS & AP for spending their money to get rid of fenty and can  clearly run and make money in business  but football is no ordanary business. Anyone who thinks they can run a football club and make money enough to keep going forward needs their bumps felt.. It needs money pelting in to it just to stand still. And that will not happen so we will just keep going backwards on the pitch apart from the odd game or two. The future looks a bit grim and the mighty mariners are just mariners all at sea a rough one at that

In fairness though there are examples of teams not splashing the cash in the top 12 this season. Crewe, Walsall, Newport, Morecambe spring to mind as teams still in with a shot of promotion. Barrow & Harrogate have likely spent above their means but I’d hazard a guess that they’re not far off our budget either.

I don’t think our current budget isn’t on that can’t put us in that mix, but we’ve got the goalkeeper & defensive positions so badly wrong this season & we’re being brutally punished for it most weeks.