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MuddyWaters
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The major problem we have is that the midfielders don't show for the ball or trust themselves. You can immediately see the gap left by Conteh who did both. Recruitment wise that is what we need.

I'm a bit confused about why people think we will start accruing loads of points if we try to dig in and not play football. The evidence doesn't really back that up.


I agree that Conteh is a big loss and Thompson is his replacement and looked nothing like good enough last week, but apparently was at Accrington. I just don’t see enough creativity front to back, plenty of individual talent but not the gel to bring it all together.

I was really enthused when we beat Crewe but that seems a very long time ago.
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Thompson filled Contehs roll very well against Accrington, but didn’t manage it against Stockport. Let’s not write him off before we play the likes of Doncaster…….
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Thompson is a different sort of player to Conteh though. Nowhere near as comfortable on the ball but a savvier battler who in theory won't leave the defenders as exposed as Conteh did at times. The problem is that the style of play we're adopting needs that Conteh outlet.
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Thompson is a different sort of player to Conteh though. Nowhere near as comfortable on the ball but a savvier battler who in theory won't leave the defenders as exposed as Conteh did at times. The problem is that the style of play we're adopting needs that Conteh outlet.


So who do we play through from the back? It’s clear he doesn’t trust Hunt and the thought of using Green in that role scares the living bejesus out of me.
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So who do we play through from the back? It’s clear he doesn’t trust Hunt and the thought of using Green in that role scares the living bejesus out of me.

Yeah that's a big question that needs addressing that I suspect we're hoping we get away with for the time being. Regarding Hunt, did you listen to Pearson's pre-match? Said he's been out injured and is back in contention. Went beyond that and said no problems with his attitude in training too.
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As regards how do we adapt our style play I'd say that one way we could help ourselves is to not be so painfully predictable, just some variation in play would be good. There was a moment against Stockport were the keeper came to collect it, Hume went running forward signalling for a ball to go on an immediate attack with. Instead, to everyone's frustration, the keeper held on to it, everybody got in their usual positions and he rolled it to a CB to start tapping around with it etc.

I can't for the life of me see why, even if you were going to play a passing out from the back style you would want to refuse opportunities to attack like that when you're behind.

Whether that's a tactical instruction from DA or an unwillingness to try something from Cartwright I see that as a weakness in us that's unjustifiable.
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As regards how do we adapt our style play I'd say that one way we could help ourselves is to not be so painfully predictable, just some variation in play would be good. There was a moment against Stockport were the keeper came to collect it, Hume went running forward signalling for a ball to go on an immediate attack with. Instead, to everyone's frustration, the keeper held on to it, everybody got in their usual positions and he rolled it to a CB to start tapping around with it etc.

I can't for the life of me see why, even if you were going to play a passing out from the back style you would want to refuse opportunities to attack like that when you're behind.

Whether that's a tactical instruction from DA or an unwillingness to try something from Cartwright I see that as a weakness in us that's unjustifiable.


He probably wasn't ready, and it does happen. Often runs are missed, and you go back and do it again. You see what happened for their goal when the GK tries to play a pass not on. Cartwright was probably a little scarred by the goal, and it's perfectly understandable.

With time, they get better at understanding each other and what they'll do. 1 missed opportunity doesn't mean you cannot do something or don't try.

It's perfectly justifiable. No player has 100% pass rate, and errors and mistakes is part of the game. It's making sure the positives outweigh the negatives. It's a game played by humans, not robots.

Also, you need to get the passing basics down and confidence with it before you start throwing in variation. They haven't been doing this a long time.
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It’s the slim pickings of quality that we have here for next season that worries me, and the quality of those already contracted with us (at the moment) that could/would stay. It’s hard to make a decent case, aside from half a dozen at best, that would fill you with any hope again in this league again next term.

Results are needed, and sooner rather than later. The pressure needs to be put on other teams and not on our players but, when things don’t work, everything gets questioned.


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It’s the slim pickings of quality that we have here for next season that worries me, and the quality of those already contracted with us (at the moment) that could/would stay. It’s hard to make a decent case, aside from half a dozen at best, that would fill you with any hope again in this league again next term.

Results are needed, and sooner rather than later. The pressure needs to be put on other teams and not on our players but, when things don’t work, everything gets questioned.


Well, the less quality we have here that expire at the end of the season give us extra budget to replace with better. Obviously it won't be a full refresh as some under contract players may not be easy to ship off, but a good summer transfer window will help more than a January one. I'm more concerned about getting it right this season. Summer will be childs play compared to the challenge we have right now.
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